Babylon to America video

[Greenie]

So I seen this video and it got me thinking about everything. Have I been taught wrong and what haven't I been studying right. I know the Bible is literal in some places and symbolic in others. I now know the video comes from a SDA background and I don't know much about them because I grew up in Baptist church and then went on to pentecostal church (then spent many years out of church) now I'm back in the church and reading my Bible and praying more but I feel conflicted over eschatology views and whether or not is a salvation issue. 

 

Anyone else seen the video?? I'm sure you can look it up on YouTube. 

 

Maybe chat with me about it, thanks 

With love in Christ,  

Greenie

[TheBlade]

I don't know of this video.. I tried to search but can't find it. I have as of late was watching someone "DR this and that lol" he was sharing how America (if this is what your asking about) is Babylon. He said it wasn't founded that way. Babylon man that "place" seems to be quite a few different nations depending on just who you listen to. Does seem to be going that way now though

[other one]

this may be what you are looking for.   It's about two hours long so can't be posted here.

Search "FROM BABYLON TO AMERICA: THE PROPHECY MOVIE | SFP"

[other one]

2 minutes ago, other one said:

this may be what you are looking for.   It's about two hours long so can't be posted here.

Search "FROM BABYLON TO AMERICA: THE PROPHECY MOVIE | SFP"

 

 

[other one]

2 hours ago, TheBlade said:

He said it wasn't founded that way.

I'm not so sure.     Do a youtube search on:

'"Secret Mysteries of America’s Beginnings: The New Atlantis"

"Riddles in Stone The Secret Architecture of Washington D C"

They are much too long to post on worthy, but they are very enlightening concerning the beginnings of of our government.....     This nation was made great by Christian morals and work ethic, but our government.....    not so much.

[Greenie]

14 hours ago, other one said:

this may be what you are looking for.   It's about two hours long so can't be posted here.

Search "FROM BABYLON TO AMERICA: THE PROPHECY MOVIE | SFP"

Yes other one , this is what I watched.

I'm nervous to say that I kinda agree with how he presented his evidence. I've never thought of it like that, it was like an eye opener for me. Now I've tried to get my parents to see it but my mom is convinced that its wrong. Nobody in my church so far will talk about it either. I guess because they (the SFP/sda people) still believe in keeping the law and the sabbath and thats OT stuff which Jesus came to fulfill so shouldn't I be trusting in Jesus and not the laws ? he came to fulfill it because I couldn't,  he took my punishment and my sin on the cross of calvary and thats why I praise and worship him as my savior. There's so much I need to learn again. 

[other one]

2 hours ago, Greenie said:

Yes other one , this is what I watched.

I'm nervous to say that I kinda agree with how he presented his evidence. I've never thought of it like that, it was like an eye opener for me. Now I've tried to get my parents to see it but my mom is convinced that its wrong. Nobody in my church so far will talk about it either. I guess because they (the SFP/sda people) still believe in keeping the law and the sabbath and thats OT stuff which Jesus came to fulfill so shouldn't I be trusting in Jesus and not the laws ? he came to fulfill it because I couldn't,  he took my punishment and my sin on the cross of calvary and thats why I praise and worship him as my savior. There's so much I need to learn again. 

Watch the other two I posted and it gets into the details from all sides.   There is a third that  I haven't found that I will post later as it comes back to me.

[Starise]

I have been studying this subject and at one time was convinced tying America to Babylon was a loosing cause. Not so sure about this any more.

I can't claim to be the one who pulled all of these references together. It was a man named Dennis Lee on Quora. When one combines all of these references and compares them to America, he makes a pretty good case. Agree, disagree? Why? If we are being challenged to leave America how would we get out and where would we go?

America.

It is easiest to explain Babylon in a chronological manner, starting with Isaiah 13, 14, and 18, Jerimiah 50 and 51, Daniel 7, Zecheriah 5, and finally Revelation 17 and 18. I encourage you to grab a Bible and follow along.

Isaiah 13 - The Burden Against Babylon

1–13; A declaration of Babylons fate at the hands of nations “from far away lands.”

14; Each person fleeing Babylon will “return to his own people, will flee to his native land.” This is the first indication that Babylon is a melting pot nation full of many different nationalities. Over 97% of American citizens have lineage from a different nation.

15–22; Indication that the “Medes” or modern day Arabs will come against it and the destruction will be total annihilation. Middle Eastern Arabs often call for America to be punished for its sins.

Isaiah 14 - The Ruler (God) of Babylon

4–8; The “Oppressor” who “struck people in anger…subdued nations with persecution”, caused chaos around the world, and de-forrested giant trees around the world. America rapes forrest after forrest for its resources.

12–14; “Heylel ben Shachar” or “Lucifer son of Dawn” is identified as the Ruler of Babylon. He who was 'destroyer of nations that sought to raise his throne above the stars to be like the Most High.’ גַּד is the name of the chief Babylonian deity of fortune, and in English it is pronounced 'god’. American money states “In God We Trust” and proclaims to be a “Nation Under God” in their Pledge of Allegiance. “God” is not the name given to the Most High nearly 7,000 times in the Bible. His name is יהוה (YHVH). America worships God, the Babylonian deity of Fortune, not YHVH the Deity of Israel from the Bible. God is no other than Heylel ben Shachar, the Shining One.

15–23; The fate of the “God” Babylon trusted in is declared and final. This is reiterated in the Gospels and Revelation.

Isaiah 18 - The Land Beyond the Rivers of Cush

2–3; A warning for “a powerful nation tall and smoothe skinned, who's land is divided by rivers, a people of strange speech feared far and near.” English is considered the strangest language in existence. America is easily a powerful nation who's states boundaries are divided by rivers, as is the nation from North to South divided by the Mississippi River. Tall and smoothe skinned are also both prominant American ethnic markers.

4–7; Just before the destruction of the land, a remnant of escapees will be found in Jerusalem.

Jerimiah 50

3, 41; “A nation from the north will come against [Babylon].” Exactly north of Jerusalem where Jerimiah is writing his prophecy is Moscow Russia. Russia and America are great adversaries.

4-8; Another mention of the “Lost Sheep of Israel” escaping Babylon and joining with their brother Judah in Israel. Also, the command for Yahs people to flee from Babylon is echoed from Isaiah.

11–12; Babylon is a haughty and arrogant Nation, and it is a nation born from a mother nation. Jerimiah declared Babylons mother nation will be ashamed when it is destroyed. America is one of the only nations of prominence born from another nation, Britain.

16; Another indication that Babylon is a melting pot nation where each will “turn to his own people” and “flee to his own land.”

23; Babylon called “The Hammer of the Whole Earth” and America is commonly called “The World Police.”

28; Another reference to those who escape Babylon and shout out in Zion.

31–32; Again, the nation is called “arrogant.” A term which even Americans cannot deny applies to this country.

33; The oppression of the Sons of Israel. Substantial anthropological and archaeological evidence traces decendents of the 10 Lost Tribes of Israel to the American Native Indian People, Irish, and African Americans. All these groups have been substantially persecuted by government policies throughout their history in America.

38; “A land of graven images” and “people go mad over Idols.” One cannot drive 5 miles without seeing a symbol of idolatry. Whether it be a sacrad pillar atop a church, something YHVH the Deity of Israel detests, or a billboard of an actor, athlete, or pop star, it is undeniable that the American people go “mad over Idols.”

Jerimiah 51

2; Strangers or spies will be sent to winnow the nation from inside. There is no denying Russian interference in elections and social media have already been prevalent.

6,45; Another call to flee from Babylon before it is destroyed.

7–8; The influence of Babylon has made all other nations intoxicated and mad.

9,10,50; Another call to flee to Zion and acknowledgment of it being a melting pot of nationalities.

13; A land “by many waters rich in treasures.” This excludes most Arab nations, Iraq and Rome.

25; this indicates Babylons influence in causing destruction over the entire earth. America has easily fit this bill, sending drones all over the world killing without legal precedent or discretion.

28; Another call for the “Medes” or Arabs to come against it.

48; Kingdom from the North, Russia.

Daniel 7

4; Daniel sees a vision of a lion with eagles wings representing a kingdom. The Eagles wings are plucked and the Lion is forced to stand alone and given a heart of fear. This mimics Jerimiah 11–12. America has the crest of an Eagle, and Englands is a Lion. England relies on its partnership with America now thanks to Brexit more than it ever has. Without America, when the wings are plucked, England will be alone and fearful.

Zecheriah 5

5–8; Describes “wickedness” as a woman carried of to Shinar, where Babylon was first built, by two women to be set on a pedestal when the time comes. The Statue of the Goddess Liberatus that sits on a pedestal at New York Harbor is a symbol of America. It is derived from characteristics of two other female deities, Columbia and Marianne. Columbia in particular represents America and is often depicted topless riding a serpent and holding a cornucopia, which represents Zeus and is a staple of the Goddess Fortuna. Fortuna is Goddess of fortune and luck. Marianne, the French influence of the Statue of Liberty, is also often depicted topless. These are all symbols of Idolatry and very wicked in the eyes of YHVH.

Revelation 17 - The Prostitute of Babylon

1,2; These verses echo the description above from Zecheriah 5, though the hidden meanings go much deeper. All the kings of the earth lust after America and American culture has seeped into even middle eastern nations. Sexuality, lust, and consumption at all costs is ravaging the earth thanks to America and its influences.

6; Another reference to the atrocities done to the lost sheep of Israel, its scattered 10 tribes. (Native Americans, Irish, African Americans)

9; The vision explains the woman sits on 7 mountains. America is the only nation on earth with military bases on all 7 continents. The Statue of Liberty also has 7 rays on her crown symbolizing the 7 continents.

15; Proof that Babylon will be the ultimate melting pot of nationalities. The Statue of Liberty sits on many waters where every immigrant had to pass through when they came to the country.

18; The great city that rules all the kings of the earth is easily represented by New York, the headquarters of the United Nations.

Revelation 18 - Mystery Revealed

3; All the nations of the earth are immoral from her influence, and all the merchants have grown wealthy from her excessive luxury. This includes Panasonic, Mitsubishi, Audi, Sanyo, Samsung, and countless others that rely on our Black Fridays and gift giving holidays to increase their wealth. This rules out theories for Rome, Saudi Arabia, or Iraq as none of those places contribute to the bottom line profits of such merchants across the earth as much as America.

 

4; “COME OUT OF HER MY PEOPLE!”

6,7; Arrogance, pride, and excessive luxury, again unrivaled by any other country.

11–13; Merchants of the earth will mourn because nobody will be left to buy their goods. These goods are laid out in two sections. The first section in verse 12 represents goods sold on New York Stock Exchange. The second group in verse 13 represents goods sold on the Chicago Merchantile Exchange. This includes “the souls of men” because on the CME American Birth Certificates are traded with foreign banks as collateral for foreign loans.

15; The great city clothed in Linen, Scarlet, and Purple. Linen represents white throughout Scripture, and Scarlet represents Red. Navy Blue is a shade that was not named until the 1700's. If a person 2,000 years ago were to see this color in a vision, it would be very easy to imagine they would call it “purple” since the only shades of blue 2,000 years ago were very light and came from a specific sea mollusk found in the Mediterranean Sea. Purple was much darker. This means John, the author of Revelation, very likely saw the great city clothed in Red, White, and (Navy) Blue.

17–19; EVERY shipmaster grew wealthy from her and every passanger and sailor will be sitting on the water from a distance mourning. Rome, Iraq, and Saudie Arabia do not have harbors that grow all the merchants of the earth rich. They do not have waters for all these ships to be floating around watching their destruction either. America, on the other hand, fits this perfectly as well.

These are nearly 40 proofs covering over 200 verses that give the identity of Mystery Babylon very plainly. Some countries other than America can certainly fit the bill for a few lines here or there, but no other country can fit every single one of them. With the fall of Demascus predicted in Isaiah 17 coming to fulfillment before our very eyes, I do not see America having much more time. It is time for YHVHs people to come out of her, lest we perish in her iniquity.

[Greenie]

Wow, just wow! My mind is blown away with this info...I'm shook to my bones. So then what am I to do?!? Pack up my family and leave America?!? Where would I go? I don't wanna be displeasing to YHVH. This is what I mean when I say I've been taught wrong all my life. Thank you @Starise for the in-depth coverage 

[Starise]

There is the possibility that this person is cherry picking scripture to make a point. If you notice he also adds a lot of his own commentary to the scriptures. I will need to read through all of these. If it were me I wouldn't jump to any final conclusions just yet. I'm not.

Maybe not exactly to this point but close. Someone has said that if America is allowed to get away with all of her evil ways God owes an apology to Sodom and Gomorrah. So EVEN IF not all of these scriptures really apply to America, the USA comes up wanting and deserving of judgment. I believe some of that is coming at her now in the form of weather disasters and economic instability. For years many American people chose deliberately to vote for leaders who were not opposed to abortion. They have done many dishonest deeds to gain wealth and make the poor American workers take up the slack. America has looked the other way or openly supported all of the lifestyles that disgust Yahweh. Even going to far as to attempt to legislate acceptance of the behavior and punish those who were against it. I could go on and on and I would sound unpatriotic to my country. I want an America that stands her ground against evil men. An America that call out criminals and punishes them. An America that cares about her citizens. We have had ample time to repent, but most have not and I think we will pay a price for that. Every other nation did. When a nation is at the last stages of judgement God allows evil men to rule a nation. This is where we are at now.

I have nowhere else to go. If it gets bad here I will depend on the Lord to protect me. Human nature clearly just draws things out until the inevitable happens. When that happens I predict politicians will all blame their fellow politicians for the problems. The people will blame the politicians and each other instead of looking at the true root of our problems. It's us.

The nation that follows the Lord God blesses. The nation that runs from God and His ways will eventually pay. Often God has used evil neighbor nations to judge. Look at what happened to Israel. God allowed Babylon of that time to judge her.

The one significant idea in prophecy that strikes a chord with me concerning mystery Babylon is the ports and the ships. Ships have been waiting for months to dock in Los Angeles harbor. It is probably the largest sea port in the world and we have ports in New York and Philadelphia. The US is probably the most significant importer of goods in the world and this would line up with the scriptures that refer to nation wealthy and a huge importer of goods.