Did God return Israel in 1948 or will it be after the Trib?

[dad2]

One verse used by people thinking it was 1948 is about 'how can a nation be born in a day'. (as if the day was 1948). In the chapter that verse is in, a previous verse show the context.

Isa 66 

⁶ A voice of noise from the city, a voice from the temple, a voice of the Lord that rendereth recompense to His enemies.

^{Do people think that happened already?}

 

[dad2]

5 hours ago, Josheb said:

Neither. 

No, God did not "return" Israel in 1948; nor has He done so at anytime thereafter. The Israel of the Old Testament was a theocracy. It had a monarch. It lived in a covenant relationship with God. It lived by (or was supposed to live by) the Law of Moses. These and several other conditions do not exist in modern Israel. Modern Israel is not a return of Old Testament Israel. 

The tribulation spoken of in Matthew 24 and Revelation was something that happened in the first century. It was in the future of those living in the New Testament era but it is on our past. Their future, our past. For the last two centuries there have been many Christians teachers predicting the return of Israel and a soon-occurring tribulation but not a single one of them have ever been correct. They have ALL been false teachers and none of them should be believed or followed.  

 

Deuteronomy 18:20-22
"But the prophet who speaks a word presumptuously in My name which I have not commanded him to speak, or which he speaks in the name of other gods, that prophet shall die.'  You may say in your heart, 'How will we know the word which the LORD has not spoken?'  When a prophet speaks in the name of the LORD, if the thing does not come about or come true, that is the thing which the LORD has not spoken. The prophet has spoken it presumptuously; you shall not be afraid of him." 

 

These prophets, predictors, and prognosticators are not speaking from or for God. If and when God ever restores the Israel of the Old Testament it will look much different than modern Israel. It will be an Israel that can be objectively measured by the Old Testament and everyone with a correct knowledge of God's whole word and the indwelt Spirit will know it. 

The tribulation could not have happened, it is the final part of man's history, and unique. It is of a limited and specific time period and has a beginning and an ending. Some people do claim that a nation was born in a day and that this was the modern nation of Israel. They claim that this was a great fulfilment of prophesy. When the bible predicts in the end time, that certain nations will attack and surround Israel, it is not talking about how they follow Moses then, or that they are 'indwelt' or anything else like that. It talks about a country in the end that is invaded, and in which the final leader sets up an abomination, etc. 

The thread is looking at whether the modern state of Israel was, as some claim, gathered together from all over the world to the land of Israel by God already or not. Hopefully those taking the position that it was can support their claim with the bible here.

As for the preterist nonsense that tries to say the Great Trib spoken of by Daniel, and Jesus, and others has already happened, sorry, that is  absurd and is not on topic.

Edited September 29, 2021 by dad2

[R. Hartono]

4 hours ago, Josheb said:

Neither. 

No, God did not "return" Israel in 1948; nor has He done so at anytime thereafter. The Israel of the Old Testament was a theocracy. It had a monarch. It lived in a covenant relationship with God. It lived by (or was supposed to live by) the Law of Moses. These and several other conditions do not exist in modern Israel. Modern Israel is not a return of Old Testament Israel. 

The tribulation spoken of in Matthew 24 and Revelation was something that happened in the first century. It was in the future of those living in the New Testament era but it is on our past. Their future, our past. For the last two centuries there have been many Christians teachers predicting the return of Israel and a soon-occurring tribulation but not a single one of them have ever been correct. They have ALL been false teachers and none of them should be believed or followed.  

 

Deuteronomy 18:20-22
"But the prophet who speaks a word presumptuously in My name which I have not commanded him to speak, or which he speaks in the name of other gods, that prophet shall die.'  You may say in your heart, 'How will we know the word which the LORD has not spoken?'  When a prophet speaks in the name of the LORD, if the thing does not come about or come true, that is the thing which the LORD has not spoken. The prophet has spoken it presumptuously; you shall not be afraid of him." 

 

These prophets, predictors, and prognosticators are not speaking from or for God. If and when God ever restores the Israel of the Old Testament it will look much different than modern Israel. It will be an Israel that can be objectively measured by the Old Testament and everyone with a correct knowledge of God's whole word and the indwelt Spirit will know it. 

God will serve this unbelieving cold arrogant "smart" world with Star-Wormwood Coffee free of charge in the great tribulation never happen in history.

 

[dad2]

48 minutes ago, Josheb said:

Would you please show me the scripture that plainly states "the tribulation is the final part of man's history"?

I completely agree. 

I want you to make note of what I just said, dad2. The last time we had this conversation I got misrepresented, mocked, and derided. I have just expressed agreement with you and affirmed something you posted. The tribulation was a limited and specific period with a beginning and an end. You think it is future; I think it is past. We disagree as to its timing but we agree to its character or nature: it is limited, and specific with a beginning and an end. 
 

Build from consensus.

I'm not interested in what others do or do not claim. I do not model my views based on what others do or do not believe and I hope you don't either. The only reason I mentioned the other theology is because it is an example of false teaching that is very popular today but because of its consistent falseness is a theology/eschatology no one should believe. One of its main features is the belief Israel has been restored or has returned. Based on prior conversations you and I agree that is not the case. He have completely different reasons for agreeing Israel has not returned but that is a place of agreement between us. 

So please don't be thinking I am automatically opposed to you. 

Build from consensus. 

Not sure why that is relevant. The question to be answered is a plain and simple one: Did God restore Israel it 1948 or will it be after the tribulation?  It is not necessary to know what is the tribulation to answer the question of timing. Israel's return occurs either before or after no matter what the tribulation is. The trib is a specific and limited event with a beginning and an end. Yep. I whole heartedly agree. You believe the tribulation could not have happened because it is the final part of human history. 

I'd like you to show me the scripture stating that claim. 

Build from consensus. 

One step at a time, please. Don't move the goalposts. The question asked is "Did God return Israel in 1948 or will it be after the tribulation?" I don't need to know the character of the trib to know the timing of Israel's return. Neither do you. Whatever the trib is or isn't Israel's return will occur either before or after..... or it won't occur at all. But don't get distracted from your own specified question. 

Show me the scripture stating the tribulation is the final part of man's history. 

Show me the scripture. 

Build from consensus. 

Hopefully you can stop worrying about what others may or may not do and practice your own standards: support your own claim! It has been claimed the tribulation is the final part of man's history. Please show me the scripture stating the tribulation is the final part of human history. Support your own claim. Set the example for all the other posters. Right now it's just you and me exchanging posts but others will soon enjoin the thread and I hope you will have established an example for others to follow by supporting the claims you yourself post, beginning with the claim the tribulation is the final part of human history. 

Show me the scripture. 

Build from consensus. 

The consensus of which I speak is not mere consensus between you and I. The consensus we build MUST be a consensus with God and His written word. If you cannot support your own claims with scripture then you, dad2, are not setting a good example for others AND you are contradicting your own just stated, your own plainly stated standard. It is worthless for you and I to agree with each other if we do not have consensus with God's word. 

Show me the scripture stating the tribulation is the final part of human history. 

And please do it in the ext post as concisely as you can because neither one of us wants me to ask the question over and over and over again and again until it is finally answered. It would have been helpful if the scripture had been posted at the time the claim was made but I can wait another post for you to support your claim.  

Show me the scripture.

Keep comments about "preterist" out of the conversation. I can and will support everything I post with scripture AND with scripture plainly stated and without addition or subtraction. Where I do post interpretive meaning I will do so using scripture to render scripture and NOT extra-biblical sources. I expect you to do the same. And if or when you do not do that I will point out the fact that you've not taken scripture as written or not let scripture render itself. 

And I will do that in hopes we can build from consensus based upon God's word and not man-made eschatologies developed long after scripture was written. 

Because the fact is, dad2, it was not until the 19th century that any Christian eschatology thought Israel relevant. But that's okay for this conversation because I can hang in here with you as you make the case for your position if you can stay on topic and not move from the timing of Israel's return to something else (like the nature of the trib). 

So far I foresee a potential problem because if the tribulation is the final part of human history then Israel MUST return prior to the tribulation. Nothing more can occur after the tribulation if it is the final part of man's history. 

For now just show me the scripture stating the tribulation is the final part of human history. 

Or, if you've now realized that was perhaps worded incorrectly then clarify or correct it for me......

.....and then provide me with the scripture supporting you claim. 

One step at a time. 

Building from consensus with God's word. 

Regardless of what others do or don't believe. 

 

 

 

Can you do that?

You need a Scripture showing that the Great Tribulation is the end? How about when Jesus said if those days were not shortened, no one would be left alive at all? How about where it says that at the end of time it brings in everlasting righteousness? You think that happened in 70 AD? How about the universe going dark, all stars and sun going dark. was that in 70 AD? If so, I guess they suddenly all turned back on? Ha

Daniel 9:24

 

Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy.

 

Then there is this..

 

Matthew 24:29-30
'Immediately after the tribulation of those days the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light; the stars will fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken. Then the sign of the Son of Man will appear in heaven, and then all the tribes of the earth will mourn, and they will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.

 

There is NO WAY that happened.

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[Justin Adams]

5 hours ago, dad2 said:

There is NO WAY that happened.

Read Josephus and other historical accounts. 

[Heleadethme]

19 hours ago, dad2 said:

One verse used by people thinking it was 1948 is about 'how can a nation be born in a day'. (as if the day was 1948). In the chapter that verse is in, a previous verse show the context.

Isa 66 

⁶ A voice of noise from the city, a voice from the temple, a voice of the Lord that rendereth recompense to His enemies.

^{Do people think that happened already?}

 

Yes....it happened in 70 AD.  Israel had become His enemy and enemy to the brethren who had received Jesus as the Christ.

Isa 66:4-9

I also will choose their delusions, and will bring their fears upon them; because when I called, none did answer; when I spake, they did not hear: but they did evil before mine eyes, and chose that in which I delighted not.

Hear the word of the LORD, ye that tremble at his word; Your brethren that hated you, that cast you out for my name's sake, said, Let the LORD be glorified: but he shall appear to your joy, and they shall be ashamed.

A voice of noise from the city, a voice from the temple, a voice of the LORD that rendereth recompence to his enemies.

Before she travailed, she brought forth; before her pain came, she was delivered of a man child.

Who hath heard such a thing? who hath seen such things? Shall the earth be made to bring forth in one day? or shall a nation be born at once? for as soon as Zion travailed, she brought forth her children.

Shall I bring to the birth, and not cause to bring forth? saith the LORD: shall I cause to bring forth, and shut the womb? saith thy God.

This is how I read the above prophetic passages:  Jesus came to His own...He called them but they received Him not.  Instead they crucified Him and mercilessly persecuted those who did receive Him.  Israel had given birth to the manchild, Jesus the Messiah, before her travail came in 70 AD...as judgment for her sins and apostasy.  The nation that was ‘born’ in that day of judgment was the “Israel of God”.....when "Israel after the flesh" died in childbirth so to speak (prophetically foreshadowed by Rachel dying in giving birth to Benjamin), fulfilling what was written in Hebrews 9 below....and 'finishing' the work that Jesus began, that of fully instituting the new covenant:

Heb 9:8

The Holy Ghost this signifying, that the way into the holiest of all was not yet made manifest, while as the first tabernacle was yet standing

(The first tabernacle, the Temple of the old covenant, was of course literally destroyed and no longer standing after the events of 70 AD.)

 

Edited September 29, 2021 by Heleadethme

[Alive]

And another OP on these questions.

:-)

I will say one thing at this time. There is no question that the scriptures mentioned above, make it crystal clear that events occur 'after' the tribulation referenced by our Lord. That should be faced squarely before it is decided what to do with it.

One step at a time, indeed.

"after the tribulation of those days"

 

[dad2]

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Matthew 24:29 contradicts the claim the tribulation is the final part.

Last part of man's rule. Notice what happens after? He takes over.

 

 

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According to the very passage you just cited Jesus goes on to state, the tribulation and all that comes after the tribulation would happen in "this generation."

No, the generation that saw those things start to happen. That was not 70ad

 

 

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Furthermore, immediately after mentioning "this generation" Jesus references "the days of Noah." In the days of Noah it was the ones who were taken away that were destroyed and it was those who were left behind that went on to live long lives in a covenant relationship with God.

 

His people were saved. In the time when He returns to stand on the mount of Olives, and it splits in two, which did not happen in 70ad of course, Jesus will go on to judge the nations.

 

 

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The tribulation was in his the future of his first century audience, but it is in our past.

 

Matthew 24:27

For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.

 

Sorry, that was not past. Not sure why you try to derail the topic to flog your pet false doctrine.

 

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And there is absolutely no mention of a return of Israel.

 

Matthew 24:28

For wheresoever the carcase is, there will the eagles be gathered together

 

If you know the bible, you know where that is talking about. Here is a hint, it is not Rio.

 

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I have just supported what I posted with scripture.

 

You claimed it was in the past, and that has zero support, is impossible obviously, and is patently ridiculous.

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Have you some other verse that states the tribulation is the final part of human history?

When Jesus returns that ends the rule of man. That did not happen yet obviously. Certainly not thousands of years ago.

 

Matthew 24:30

And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.

Matthew 24:31

And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.

 

How would this NOT be the final part of the history of the rule of fallen man??

 

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The answer to the question asked is: No, God did not return Israel in 1948. The evidence for that answer is a simple and direct comparison between the Israel of the Old Testament and the Israel of modernity.

Finally, something close to on topic. So we'll put you as a no vote then.

 

 

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[dad2]

8 hours ago, Justin Adams said:

Read Josephus and other historical accounts. 

They will not tell us that the great tribulation happened already.

[DeighAnn]

Was Israel a nation?

Did it cease to be a nation? 

Were the people scattered?

Did the people come back and is it once again a nation?  

Was there a period in between that matched the period God stated would take place?  



PLEASE POINT TO any SPECIFIC VERSES where it is stated

'AND IT is ONLY TO BE recognized as a nation UPON these things taking place and it LOOKS and runs LIKE this so it completely looks as it did in the beginning'. 




EVER WONDER why people today ARE HAVING a problem coming to FAITH?  

EVEN profane history SHOWS Israel was, and then wasn't,  and now is.  Yet, some Christians say NOPE, that isn't REALLY true.

ADD TO THAT 'the last days' aren't FUTURE,  THEY ARE accordingly 'the PAST' 

which MOST everyone, believer or not, should JUST KNOW because  (I can't seem to find the right word)  

ADD TO THAT 'coming and returning' (in reference to Christ) become TWO DIFFERENT THINGS (in terms of 2nd Advent)

ADD TO THAT that 'gathering' IS made POSSIBLE BEFORE 'for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition' SIMPLY by 'what he really meant', the 'definitions' of words, and grammar and all the rest...


WHO   would   EVER want pick up a book that made common sense so much less common?  Or make it so they could no longer see the simplest of truths?  



Leviticus 26:1 Ye shall make you no idols nor graven image, neither rear you up a standing image, neither shall ye set up any image of stone in your land, to bow down unto it: for I am the LORD your God.

Leviticus 26:2 Ye shall keep my sabbaths, and reverence my sanctuary: I am the LORD.

Leviticus 26:3 If ye walk in my statutes, and keep my commandments, and do them;

Leviticus 26:4 Then I will give you rain in due season, and the land shall yield her increase, and the trees of the field shall yield their fruit.

Leviticus 26:5 And your threshing shall reach unto the vintage, and the vintage shall reach unto the sowing time: and ye shall eat your bread to the full, and dwell in your land safely.

Leviticus 26:6 And I will give peace in the land, and ye shall lie down, and none shall make you afraid: and I will rid evil beasts out of the land, neither shall the sword go through your land.

Leviticus 26:7 And ye shall chase your enemies, and they shall fall before you by the sword.

Leviticus 26:8 And five of you shall chase an hundred, and an hundred of you shall put ten thousand to flight: and your enemies shall fall before you by the sword.

Leviticus 26:9 For I will have respect unto you, and make you fruitful, and multiply you, and establish my covenant with you.

Leviticus 26:10 And ye shall eat old store, and bring forth the old because of the new.

Leviticus 26:11 And I set my tabernacle among you: and my soul shall not abhor you.

Leviticus 26:12 And I will walk among you, and will be your God, and ye shall be my people.

Leviticus 26:13 I am the LORD your God, which brought you forth out of the land of Egypt, that ye should not be their bondmen; and I have broken the bands of your yoke, and made you go upright.

Leviticus 26:14 But if ye will not hearken unto me, and will not do all these commandments

Leviticus 26:15 And if ye shall despise my statutes, or if your soul abhor my judgments, so that ye will not do all my commandments, but that ye break my covenant:

Leviticus 26:16 I also will do this unto you; I will even appoint over you terror, consumption, and the burning ague, that shall consume the eyes, and cause sorrow of heart: and ye shall sow your seed in vain, for your enemies shall eat it.

Leviticus 26:17 And I will set my face against you, and ye shall be slain before your enemies: they that hate you shall reign over you; and ye shall flee when none pursueth you.

Leviticus 26:18 And if ye will not yet for all this hearken unto me, then I will punish you seven times more for your sins.

 

Leviticus 26:44 And yet for all that, when they be in the land of their enemies, I will not cast them away, neither will I abhor them, to destroy them utterly, and to break my covenant with them: for I am the LORD their God.

Leviticus 26:45 But I will for their sakes remember the covenant of their ancestors, whom I brought forth out of the land of Egypt in the sight of the heathen, that I might be their God I am the LORD.

Leviticus 26:46 These are the statutes and judgments and laws, which the LORD made between him and the children of Israel in mount Sinai by the hand of Moses.



BUT let's just say that 'the last days' took place/ended 2000 years ago. (OK, whatever)


 WOULDN'T ALL THIS STILL BE TAKING PLACE?  
 

Joel 2:21 Fear not, O land; be glad and rejoice: for the LORD will do great things.

Joel 2:22 Be not afraid, ye beasts of the field: for the pastures of the wilderness do spring, for the tree beareth her fruit, the fig tree and the vine do yield their strength.

Joel 2:23 Be glad then, ye children of Zion, and rejoice in the LORD your God: for he hath given you the former rain moderately, and he will cause to come down for you the rain, the former rain, and the latter rain in the first month.

Joel 2:24 And the floors shall be full of wheat, and the vats shall overflow with wine and oil.

Joel 2:25 And I will restore to you the years that the locust hath eaten, the cankerworm, and the caterpiller, and the palmerworm, my great army which I sent among you.

Joel 2:26 And ye shall eat in plenty, and be satisfied, and praise the name of the LORD your God, that hath dealt wondrously with you: and my people shall never be ashamed.

Joel 2:27 And ye shall know that I am in the midst of Israel, and that I am the LORD your God, and none else: and my people shall never be ashamed.

Joel 2:28 And it shall come to pass afterward, that I will pour out my spirit upon all flesh; and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, your old men shall dream dreams, your young men shall see visions:

Joel 2:29 And also upon the servants and upon the handmaids in those days will I pour out my spirit.

Joel 2:30 And I will shew wonders in the heavens and in the earth, blood, and fire, and pillars of smoke.

Joel 2:31 The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before the great and terrible day of the LORD come.

Joel 2:32 And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of the LORD shall be delivered: for in mount Zion and in Jerusalem shall be deliverance, as the LORD hath said, and in the remnant whom the LORD shall call.

Joel 3:1 For, behold, in those days, and in that time, when I shall bring again the captivity of Judah and Jerusalem,

Joel 3:2 I will also gather all nations, and will bring them down into the valley of Jehoshaphat, and will plead with them there for my people and for my heritage Israel, whom they have scattered among the nations, and parted my land.

Joel 3:3 And they have cast lots for my people; and have given a boy for an harlot, and sold a girl for wine, that they might drink.

Joel 3:4 Yea, and what have ye to do with me, O Tyre, and Zidon, and all the coasts of Palestine? will ye render me a recompence? and if ye recompense me, swiftly and speedily will I return your recompence upon your own head;

Joel 3:5 Because ye have taken my silver and my gold, and have carried into your temples my goodly pleasant things:

Joel 3:6 The children also of Judah and the children of Jerusalem have ye sold unto the Grecians, that ye might remove them far from their border.

Joel 3:7 Behold, I will raise them out of the place whither ye have sold them, and will return your recompence upon your own head:

Joel 3:8 And I will sell your sons and your daughters into the hand of the children of Judah, and they shall sell them to the Sabeans, to a people far off: for the LORD hath spoken it.

Joel 3:9 Proclaim ye this among the Gentiles; Prepare war, wake up the mighty men, let all the men of war draw near; let them come up:

Joel 3:10 Beat your plowshares into swords and your pruninghooks into spears: let the weak say, I am strong.

Joel 3:11 Assemble yourselves, and come, all ye heathen, and gather yourselves together round about: thither cause thy mighty ones to come down, O LORD.

Joel 3:12 Let the heathen be wakened, and come up to the valley of Jehoshaphat: for there will I sit to judge all the heathen round about.

Joel 3:13 Put ye in the sickle, for the harvest is ripe: come, get you down; for the press is full, the fats overflow; for their wickedness is great.

Joel 3:14 Multitudes, multitudes in the valley of decision: for the day of the LORD is near in the valley of decision.

Joel 3:15 The sun and the moon shall be darkened, and the stars shall withdraw their shining.

Joel 3:16 The LORD also shall roar out of Zion, and utter his voice from Jerusalem; and the heavens and the earth shall shake: but the LORD will be the hope of his people, and the strength of the children of Israel.

Joel 3:17 So shall ye know that I am the LORD your God dwelling in Zion, my holy mountain: then shall Jerusalem be holy, and there shall no strangers pass through her any more.

Joel 3:18 And it shall come to pass in that day, that the mountains shall drop down new wine, and the hills shall flow with milk, and all the rivers of Judah shall flow with waters, and a fountain shall come forth out of the house of the LORD, and shall water the valley of Shittim.

Joel 3:19 Egypt shall be a desolation, and Edom shall be a desolate wilderness, for the violence against the children of Judah, because they have shed innocent blood in their land.

Joel 3:20 But Judah shall dwell for ever, and Jerusalem from generation to generation.

Joel 3:21 For I will cleanse their blood that I have not cleansed: for the LORD dwelleth in Zion.



ARE we told the tribulation comes at the end? 

 

Matthew 24:3 And as he sat upon the mount of Olives, the disciples came unto him privately, saying, Tell us, when shall these things be? and what shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world?

Matthew 24:4 And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you.

Matthew 24:5 For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.

Matthew 24:6 And ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars: see that ye be not troubled: for all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet.

Matthew 24:7 For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be famines, and pestilences, and earthquakes, in divers places.

Matthew 24:8 All these are the beginning of sorrows.

Matthew 24:9 Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted, and shall kill you: and ye shall be hated of all nations for my name's sake.

Matthew 24:10 And then shall many be offended, and shall betray one another, and shall hate one another.

Matthew 24:11 And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.

Matthew 24:12 And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold.

Matthew 24:13 But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.

Matthew 24:14 And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.

Matthew 24:15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:)

Matthew 24:16 Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains:

Matthew 24:17 Let him which is on the housetop not come down to take any thing out of his house:

Matthew 24:18 Neither let him which is in the field return back to take his clothes.

Matthew 24:19 And woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck in those days!

Matthew 24:20 But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day:

Matthew 24:21 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.

Matthew 24:22 And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened.

Matthew 24:23 Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not.

Matthew 24:24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.

(I DON'T KNOW BUT HAS EVEN PROFANE HISTORY MENTIONED ANY 'FALSE' MEN SHOWING GREAT SIGNS AND WONDERS THAT WOULD DECEIVE GODS VERY ELECT?)

Matthew 24:25 Behold, I have told you before.

Matthew 24:26 Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it not.

(IF THEY SAY 'HE WAS HERE BACK IN 70AD, BELIEVE THEM NOT AS THAT IS NO DIFFERENT, LIKE CHRIST WHO'S BRIGHTNESS WILL DESTROY SATAN COULD COME 'SECRETLY' AT ANY TIME.  WHEN CHRIST COMES AS LORD OF LORDS AND KING OF KINGS THE ENTIRE EARTH WILL KNOW BECAUSE THE TRAVAIL AND LABOR PAINS BRINGING IN THE NEW AGE HAVE ENDED AND A NEW DAY HAS BEGUN)

Matthew 24:27 For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.

Matthew 24:28 For wheresoever the carcase is, there will the eagles be gathered together.

(AND THE DEAD IN CHRIST WILL RESURRECT FIRST.  SOME WERE DECEIVED.  SOME WERE JUST PLAIN EVIL)

Matthew 24:29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:

(WON'T CAN'T BE MISSED)

Matthew 24:30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.

Matthew 24:31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.

(THE ALIVE AND REMAINING WILL BE CHANGED)

Matthew 24:32 Now learn a parable of the fig tree; When his branch is yet tender, and putteth forth leaves, ye know that summer is nigh:

Matthew 24:33 So likewise ye, WHEN YE SHALL SEE ALL THESE THING KNOW THAT IT IS NEAR, EVEN AT THE DOORS.  

Matthew 24:34 Verily I say unto you, THIS generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled.

(THE GENERATION HE JUST DESCRIBED THE EVENTS TAKING PLACE IN)

Matthew 24:35 Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away.

Matthew 24:36 But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only.



(LAST TIME THERE WERE FALLEN ANGELS ON EARTH)

Matthew 24:37 But as the days of Noe were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.

(COULD YOU IMAGINE HOW MANY GIANTS THERE WOULD BE UPON THE EARTH AT THIS TIME SHOULD THE FALLEN ANGELS HAVE COME IN THE PAST INSTEAD OF THE FUTURE?)

Matthew 24:38 For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark,

(THERE WAS A FLOOD TO TAKE AWAY THE EVIL PEOPLE THEN AND SATAN SHALL SEND A FLOOD TO TAKE OUT GODS ELECT IN THE FUTURE)

Matthew 24:39 And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.

(WHEN CHRIST RETURNS 'THE GREAT FALLING AWAY' WILL WISH THEY COULD HIDE)

Matthew 24:40 Then shall two be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left.

(THE 'DEAD' SHALL RISE (HAVING BEEN TAKEN, NO LONGER VIRGINS, THOSE ALIVE AND REMAINING WILL BE CHANGED)

Matthew 24:41 Two women shall be grinding at the mill; the one shall be taken, and the other left.

Matthew 24:42 Watch therefore: for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come.

Matthew 24:43 But know this, that if the goodman of the house had known in what watch the thief WOULD COME, he would have watched, and would not have suffered his house to be broken up.

(HE WOULD HAVE WATCHED AND NOT ALLOWED HIMSELF TO BE TAKEN.  WE HAVE BEEN WARNED.  SATAN IS COMING AND HE IS COMING FIRST.  HIS NUMBER IS 666.  CHRIST'S IS 7.  GOD EVEN PUT IT IN NUMBER FORM)

Matthew 24:44 Therefore be ye also ready: for in such an hour as ye think not the Son of man cometh.

Matthew 24:45 Who then is a faithful and wise servant, whom his lord hath made ruler over his household, to give them meat in due season?

Matthew 24:46 Blessed is that servant, whom his lord when he cometh shall find so doing.

Matthew 24:47 Verily I say unto you, That he shall make him ruler over all his goods.

(WHY WOULD GOD MAKE RULERS OF THOSE WHO HAVE NOT BEEN THROUGH ANYTHING?  THEY WOULD KNOW LESS THAN ALL THOSE, NO MATTER WHAT SIDE THEY WERE ON DURNING THE TRIBULATION)

Matthew 24:48 But and if that evil servant shall say in his heart, My lord delayeth his coming;

Matthew 24:49 And shall begin to smite his fellowservants, and to eat and drink with the drunken;

(GOING OUT TO BUY AND SELL)
 

Matthew 24:50 The lord of that servant shall come in a day when he looketh not for him, and in an hour that he is not aware of,

Matthew 24:51 And shall cut him asunder, and appoint him his portion with the hypocrites: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.

Matthew 25:1 Then shall the kingdom of heaven be likened unto ten virgins, which took their lamps, and went forth to meet the bridegroom.

(RIGHT NOW WE ARE ALL VIRGINS AS NO ONE HAS COME TO SEDUCE US YET.  SOME WILL BE VERY EASY TO SEDUCE BECAUSE THEY HAVE NOT PUT ON THE GOSPEL ARMOR INSTEAD THEY HAVE DECIDED THINGS WILL JUST CONTINUE AS THEY HAVE BEEN BECAUSE ALL THINGS ARE IN THE PAST OR THEY ARE NOT PLANNING ON BEING HERE ANYHOW AS THEY HAVE JUDGED THEMSELVES ALREADY AND HAVE APPOINTED A TIME FOR THEIR SALVATION TO TAKE PLACE BECAUSE GOD IN WHOM THERE IS NO VARIANCE, WILL BE DOING JUST THAT FOR THEM SOMEHOW)

Matthew 25:2 And five of them were wise, and five were foolish.

Matthew 25:3 They that were foolish took their lamps, and took no oil with them:

Matthew 25:4 But the wise took oil in their vessels with their lamps.

Matthew 25:5 While the bridegroom tarried, they all slumbered and slept.

(THE NIGHT CAME)

Matthew 25:6 And at midnight there was a cry made, Behold, the bridegroom cometh; go ye out to meet him.

(AND CHRIST HADN'T RETURNED YET.  BUT HE IS COMING.  BEST HAVE STAYED IN THE LIGHT.  BUT CAN ONLY STAY IN THE LIGHT IF YOU HAVE ENOUGH 'OIL' TO KEEP IN THE LIGHT THROUGHOUT THE NIGHT CAUSE IF YOU DON'T YOU WILL HAVE TO GO BUY AND SELL)

Matthew 25:7 Then all those virgins arose, and trimmed their lamps.

Matthew 25:8 And the foolish said unto the wise, Give us of your oil; for our lamps are gone out.

Matthew 25:9 But the wise answered, saying, Not so; lest there be not enough for us and you: but go ye rather to them that sell, and buy for yourselves.

(THERE WILL NOT BE ENOUGH TIME TO GIVE ALL THE GOSPEL ARMOR NECESSARY TO WITHSTAND THE FIERY DARTS OF SATAN)

Matthew 25:10 And while they went to buy, the bridegroom came; and they that were ready went in with him to the marriage: and the door was shut.

(AND BRIGHTNESS COMES AND THOSE WHO REMAINED FAITHFUL WERE INDEED THE WISE VIRGINS AND THEY HAVING BEEN TESTED WILL BE THE ONES WHO MADE IT)

Matthew 25:11 Afterward came also the other virgins, saying, Lord, Lord, open to us.

(AND THOSE WHO WENT TO BUY AND SELL WILL FIND IT IS TOO LATE.  THEY ARE NOT 'VIRGINS' ANY MORE.  THEY WENT TO BUY AND SELL.  THEY WERE FOOLISH)

Matthew 25:12 But he answered and said, Verily I say unto you, I know you not.

Matthew 25:13 Watch therefore, for ye know neither the day nor the hour wherein the Son of man cometh.

 

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