Who are the two witnesses in the book of Revelation?

[Charlie744]

37 minutes ago, tatwo said:

Charlie744...there is a connection to the law and prophets...perhaps this can bring "some" clarity?

The two witnesses are humans on the earth at that specified time. What really seems to be coming through is, because of the authentication by the Staff like Rod (Christ the Head)…they are empowered (the temple of God on earth) “supernaturally” if you will. In other words, what has always been typical in eternity, the Spirit…is made manifest on the earth via these human witnesses (Christ the Body).

These have been measured as the naos of God, in the 11th chapter of the Book of Revelation. They have been measured and presented as the likeness of Christ, and they are adorned with the Royal Priesthood. They function as kings and priests in the fashion that summarizes the law, in the fashion that summarizes the prophets.

They are like Christ. And as He was killed, so they are killed by this beast that came up out of the abyss. But then, on the third day, three-and-a-half days later, they are resurrected and called to heaven. Daniel sees it ahead of time in the very same prophetic reference that says that the saints will possess the Kingdom.

It would appear that the Lord is showing us that the two witnesses are likely to be the Body of Christ on the earth. They have been qualified and commissioned to operate in the “character or witness” of the Royal Priesthood, Melchizedek – “King & Priest” on the throne of God. The two witnesses are the King & Priest attributes that typifies Christ and His Body.

Tatwo

Nice thoughts to be sure. I do not know if you are aware but I have been studying Daniel exclusively and have no understanding of Revelation or the other books of the Scriptures. But threw Daniel I have learned so much about God’s Plan of Salvation. 

You mentioned the two witnesses are humans, are empowered by God, will be killed, resurrected, and more...including they are literal / physical in the world. 

Thinking out loud- God’s Word and the Messiah were and are both literal / physical. They were God’s own witnesses given to the Jews to be preached to the world - Jesus and the Scriptures were meant for the Jews not the ‘outer court (Gentiles). 

Both were killed and resurrected and will have the power to destroy with fire (not as we are interpreting it - as two supernatural men) but at the end of time for those who have rejected Jesus and those who must be judged by His Word (10 commandments). 

The more I understand Daniel the more I believe I might see in Revelation- BUT  ONLY at this time through these questions posted in this forum. 

Daniel is (my findings) quite different than today’s accepted interpretations. In many ways you would not recognize my interpretations of Daniel to today’s accepted interpretations. 

Mist important is the prophetic and eschatological importance in Daniel’s verses   vs. the more ‘historical’ interpretations of today’s accepted commentaries, and the ‘timing’ of events in Daniel. 

The more I see these two depart from today’s accepted interpretations the more I THINK I see the possible differences in today’s interpretations in Revelation verses. 

But Revelation for me can not begin until I complete Daniel - now it is so interesting reading everyone’s thoughts and interpretations on Revelation. 

Charlie

 

[tatwo]

Greetings Charlie...just some thoughts and questions.

Nice thoughts to be sure. I do not know if you are aware but I have been studying Daniel exclusively and have no understanding of Revelation or the other books of the Scriptures. But threw Daniel I have learned so much about God’s Plan of Salvation.  

I was not aware of your journey through Daniel…I too have done “some” work in Daniel largely regarding the similarities there and in Revelation concerning the end of the age, I am sure you will continue to share what you learn…thank you. 

You mentioned the two witnesses are humans, are empowered by God, will be killed, resurrected, and more...including they are literal / physical in the world. Thinking out loud- God’s Word and the Messiah were and are both literal / physical.  

They were God’s own witnesses given to the Jews to be preached to the world - Jesus and the Scriptures were meant for the Jews not the ‘outer court (Gentiles).  

I tend to agree…with your immediately above sentence. 

Both were killed and resurrected and will have the power to destroy with fire (not as we are interpreting it - as two supernatural men) but at the end of time for those who have rejected Jesus and those who must be judged by His Word (10 commandments).  

Ok, so you are suggesting that those who have rejected Christ Yahshua are to be judged by the 10 commandments (Law)? I think I see how you are looking at this; I perceive that our ideas on the “two witnesses” differ…? 

The more I understand Daniel the more I believe I might see in Revelation- BUT  ONLY at this time through these questions posted in this forum.  

Yes, when it comes to those elements of Daniel concerning the “end of the age” I have found them to not only support the same in Revelation, but they confirm the revealing of the prophecies of Christ throughout scripture as well. 

Daniel is (my findings) quite different than today’s accepted interpretations. In many ways you would not recognize my interpretations of Daniel to today’s accepted interpretations.  

I too have found such to be true in regards to the book of Revelation. If you read my abbreviated study as I post it…I do not think people recognize my interpretations of some things as well. Have you or are you going to share your interpretations of Daniel? I am interested. 

Mist important is the prophetic and eschatological importance in Daniel’s verses   vs. the more ‘historical’ interpretations of today’s accepted commentaries, and the ‘timing’ of events in Daniel.  

I am not sure I follow completely Charlie…are you saying that “the more ‘historical’ interpretations of today’s accepted commentaries” are not in line with what you see in Daniel? 

The more I see these two depart from today’s accepted interpretations the more I THINK I see the possible differences in today’s interpretations in Revelation verses.  

So, as you work through Daniel…the Lord is revealing to you that “the prophetic and eschatological importance in Daniel’s verses” when lined up with today’s accepted interpretation of the same…is different…and that you suspect the same could be true for Revelation? 

But Revelation for me can not begin until I complete Daniel - now it is so interesting reading everyone’s thoughts and interpretations on Revelation. 

Charlie

Thank you Charlie 

Tatwo…:)

[Marilyn C]

15 hours ago, Charlie744 said:

That is what I have been saying... we will once again be the same ‘living soul’ as we were in the Garden (the body and His Holy Spirit). 

It will be no different than the body that Jesus had after His resurrection. 

`The first man Adam became a living being. The last Adam a life-giving spirit.` (1 Cor. 15: 45)

[Charlie744]

1 hour ago, Marilyn C said:

`The first man Adam became a living being. The last Adam a life-giving spirit.` (1 Cor. 15: 45)

Thanks Marilyn! The second Adam in your reference is Jesus, not man. 

Have a happy and safe New Year, Charlie 

[Marilyn C]

5 hours ago, Charlie744 said:

Thanks Marilyn! The second Adam in your reference is Jesus, not man. 

Have a happy and safe New Year, Charlie 

Thank you, and you and your too have a Blessed New Year.

I agree that is the Lord and He is giving His life to us.