Revelation 12:6 The Woman In The Wilderness Explained?

[iamlamad]

17 minutes ago, truth7t7 said:

We Disagree, The "Catching Up/Rapture" takes place at the second coming and resurrection (Then Cometh The End)

As scripture clearly teaches below in 1 Corinthinas 15:23-24 , when Jesus Christ returns then comes (The End)

Many disregard (Then Cometh The End) as they desire to see a mortal Millennial Kingdom on earth, after the coming of Jesus Christ, that will never take place

(Then Cometh The End) As (Death Is Swallowed Up In Victory)

Afterward they that are Christ's at his coming. Then cometh the end, not a Millennial Kingdom on this earth as many claim

(Then Cometh The End)

(Death Is Swallowed Up In Victory)

1 Corinthians 15:21-26 & 51-54KJV
21 For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead.
22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.
23 But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming.
24 Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power.
25 For he must reign, till he hath put all enemies under his feet.
26 The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death.

51 Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed,
52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.
53 For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality.
54 So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory.

I hope such a belief works out for you.

[The Light]

2 hours ago, tatwo said:

Light,

What's all the commotion concerning a "rapture?" Is the rapture or secret rapture where the Body of Christ is taken from the earth to heaven? Maybe, maybe not...ultimately it makes no difference.

The first rapture is where the Church is taken to heaven. I'm not sure why you think it makes no difference. Do you prefer to be on the earth during the 70th week of Daniel?

2 hours ago, tatwo said:

The mild hostility here between you and truth7t7 has taken the forum from the woman in the wilderness...to a rapture.

Can either of you explain to me what the woman in the wilderness is connected to a rapture?

Tatwo...:)

The woman in the wilderness is not raptured. The woman, the nation of Israel, goes through the wrath of God in a place of protection that is prepared for her. 

However, the seed of the woman, will be raptured at the 6th seal. The dragon will be wroth with the woman, and make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.

The remnant of her seed are the twelve tribes across the earth. They are the ones that go through the 70th week of Daniel. They are the second bride, the chosen bride.

[Selah7]

54 minutes ago, The Light said:

The first rapture is where the Church is taken to heaven.

Hey there. . .

Would you give scripture that leads you to believe this?  Thanks.

[truth7t7]

3 hours ago, iamlamad said:

You left out something: TIME. There is TIME between verses 23 and 24. Paul was only outlining. 

There isn't time seen between verses 23-24 below as you claim, that would be adding to scripture something not seen, "Beware"!

1 Corinthians 15:21-26 & 51-54KJV
21 For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead.
22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.
23 But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming.
24 Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power.
25 For he must reign, till he hath put all enemies under his feet.
26 The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death.

51 Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed,
52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.
53 For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality.
54 So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory.

[The Light]

2 hours ago, Selah7 said:

Hey there. . .

Would you give scripture that leads you to believe this?  Thanks.

Sure, but that would be a lot of scripture. Help me narrow down what you don't understand. Is it that you don't think the Church will go to heaven? 

[Selah7]

1 hour ago, The Light said:

Sure, but that would be a lot of scripture. Help me narrow down what you don't understand. Is it that you don't think the Church will go to heaven? 

Correct.  I need a scripture that says that the Church will be raptured before the great tribulation.  Thank you @The Light.

[truth7t7]

1 hour ago, The Light said:

Sure, but that would be a lot of scripture. Help me narrow down what you don't understand. Is it that you don't think the Church will go to heaven? 

I would request scripture to show that the Church will be raptured to heaven "Before" the great tribulation?

[tatwo]

7 hours ago, truth7t7 said:

No hostility on my part whatsoever as you claim, if a person wanders from the topic that I posted, it dosen't bring harm or foul

Feel free to post on the Woman, I will be more than happy to respond

Jesus Is The Lord

Perhaps good sir...perhaps...forgive me...building relationships and the kingdom of God like this takes a special gift...I am working on that...peace truth7t7

Tatwo...:)

[truth7t7]

20 minutes ago, tatwo said:

Perhaps good sir...perhaps...forgive me...building relationships and the kingdom of God like this takes a special gift...I am working on that...peace truth7t7

Tatwo...:)

No forgiveness needed, we are in friendly debate concerning a biblical subject claimed

A poster makes a claim, and scripture for support of the claim has been requested, simple

Jesus Is The Lord

Edited January 9, 2022 by truth7t7

[The Light]

2 hours ago, Selah7 said:

Correct.  I need a scripture that says that the Church will be raptured before the great tribulation.  Thank you @The Light.

The Great Tribulation occurs during the 70th week of Daniel. The 70th week of Daniel is about the Jews and has absolutely nothing to do with the Church. 

Dan 9

24 Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy.

The 70th week of Daniel is when God turns His attention to His Chosen people. Part of the Jews are blinded until the fullness of the Gentiles comes in. 

Rom 11

25 For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.

Are you able to find a rapture in the book of Revelation?