False teachers

[missmuffet]

1 minute ago, other one said:

Problem is who gets to decide what is false and what is not.

If you have good Christian discernment and you take God's Word as they are written and don't add or delete to those words then you are not false teaching. 

[other one]

Just now, missmuffet said:

If you have good Christian discernment and you take God's Word as they are written and don't add or delete to those words then you are not false teaching. 

But people take a single verse and take it out of context and disagree with each other.   It is good that they can discuss it with people.

 

[B-B]

21 minutes ago, missmuffet said:

Good then we are aware that false teaching is being posted on Worthy. 

We need to know and study the Word of God so well that we know a false teacher or counterfeit when we see it. We need to pray to God as we study His Word to give us the truth. How He wants those words to be engraved in our minds. Not just give any meaning to God's Word or our own meaning.

I think we could all do with being a bit more humble... and less dictatorial. Maybe I ought to start a thread on this...? 🤷

[missmuffet]

13 minutes ago, B-B said:

@missmuffet there is another thread created only just recently by @Rosie1jack2pauline3 quite a few folk have contributed to it already. 

It's under exactly the same heading/thread title.

Then I guess we have a good selection of false teaching threads to post on. It is a good topic right now. Satan is close  and He knows his time is short. We are being attacked.

[B-B]

2 minutes ago, missmuffet said:

Satan is close  and He knows his time is short. We are being attacked.

But Satan is always prowling around like a roaring lion, seeking someone to devour. This is nothing new...🤷 

I don't know what you are referencing here by saying we are being attacked??

[missmuffet]

12 minutes ago, B-B said:

But Satan is always prowling around like a roaring lion, seeking someone to devour. This is nothing new...🤷 

I don't know what you are referencing here by saying we are being attacked??

We have an invision war going on around us. Spiritual warfare. It will get more intense as these end times progress. We need to always have our full armor of God on.

Ephesians 6: 13-17

 Therefore take up the whole armor of God, that you may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand.

¹⁴ Stand therefore, having girded your waist with truth, having put on the breastplate of righteousness, and having shod your feet with the preparation of the gospel of peace; above all, taking the shield of faith with which you will be able to quench all the fiery darts of the wicked one. And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God;

[missmuffet]

19 minutes ago, B-B said:

I think we could all do with being a bit more humble... and less dictatorial. Maybe I ought to start a thread on this...? 🤷

Go for it. 

[missmuffet]

23 minutes ago, other one said:

But people take a single verse and take it out of context and disagree with each other.   It is good that they can discuss it with people.

 

That is good advise. Here is a lesson on not taking God's Word out of context.

It’s important to study Bible passages and stories within their context. Taking verses out of context leads to all kinds of error and misunderstanding. Understanding context begins with four principles: literal meaning (what it says), historical setting (the events of the story, to whom is it addressed, and how it was understood at that time), grammar (the immediate sentence and paragraph within which a word or phrase is found) and synthesis (comparing it with other parts of Scripture for a fuller meaning). Context is crucial to biblical exegesis in that it is one of its most important fundamentals. After we account for the literal, historical, and grammatical nature of a passage, we must then focus on the outline and structure of the book, then the chapter, then the paragraph. All of these things refer to "context." To illustrate, it is like looking at Google Maps and zooming in on one house.
Taking phrases and verses out of context always leads to misunderstanding. For instance, taking the phrase "God is love" (1 John 4:7-16) out of its context, we might come away thinking that our God loves everything and everyone at all times with a gushing, romantic love. But in its literal and grammatical context, “love” here refers to agape love, the essence of which is sacrifice for the benefit of another, not a sentimental, romantic love. The historical context is also crucial, because John was addressing believers in the first century church and instructing them not on God’s love per se, but on how to identify true believers from false professors. True love—the sacrificial, beneficial kind—is the mark of the true believer (v. 7), those who do not love do not belong to God (v. 8), God loved us before we loved Him (vv. 9-10), and all of this is why we should love one another and thereby prove that we are His (v. 11-12).

Furthermore, considering the phrase "God is love" in the context of all of Scripture (synthesis) will keep us from coming to the false, and all-too-common, conclusion that God is only love or that His love is greater than all His other attributes, which is simply not the case. We know from many other passages that God is also holy and righteous, faithful and trustworthy, graceful and merciful, kind and compassionate, omnipotent, omnipresent and omniscient, and many, many other things. We also know from other passages that God not only loves, but He also hates.

The Bible is the Word of God, literally "God-breathed" (2 Timothy 3:16), and we are commanded to read, study, and understand it through the use of good Bible study methods and always with the inspiration of the Holy Spirit to guide us (1 Corinthians 2:14). Our study is greatly enhanced by maintaining diligence in the use of context because it is quite easy to come to wrong conclusions by taking phrases and verses out of context. It is not difficult to point out places that seemingly contradict other portions of Scripture, but if we carefully look at their context and use the entirety of Scripture as a reference, we can understand the meaning of a passage. “Context is king” means that the context often drives the meaning of a phrase. To ignore context is to put ourselves at a tremendous disadvantage.

https://www.gotquestions.org/context-Bible.html

 

Edited January 2, 2022 by missmuffet

[B-B]

1 minute ago, missmuffet said:

We have an invision war going on around us. Spiritual warfare. It will get more intense as these end times progress. We need to always have our full armor of God on.

Ephesians 6: 13-17

 Therefore take up the whole armor of God, that you may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand.

¹⁴ Stand therefore, having girded your waist with truth, having put on the breastplate of righteousness, and having shod your feet with the preparation of the gospel of peace; above all, taking the shield of faith with which you will be able to quench all the fiery darts of the wicked one. And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God;

@missmuffet spiritual warfare is nothing new. Scripture advised the early disciples, as it advises us. I'm well aware of the Battle, and our Spiritual armour.

If you believe that there is false teaching in the worthy forums, then why not address it directly when you believe it arises, with whomever you believe is bringing it in? 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[B-B]

1 hour ago, missmuffet said:

Romans 16:17 

Now I urge you, brethren, note those who cause divisions and offenses, contrary to the doctrine which you learned, and avoid them. For those who are such do not serve our Lord Jesus Christ, but their own belly, and by smooth words and flattering speech deceive the hearts of the simple.

 

I am seeing a lot of this on Worthy. 

Why not address it as it arises? Maybe other folk will be helped by this also