Russia Preparing for War.

[truth7t7]

20 hours ago, The Light said:

Additionally, it is Satan and not a demon of Gog that is chained for a 1000 years

Rev 20

2 And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,

3 And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.

Good point! Or are you speculating? 

What scripture tells us Gog Magog will happen before Armageddon?

Satan is "Currently" bound from "One Specific Purpose", And One Only?

"Deceive The Nations" To Battle

The Non-Literal 1,000 Years (Revelation) 20:1-6 Are Taking Place Now In The Lords Spiritual, And Will Cease At The Future Second Coming

If A Tribulation Saint Were To Die One Day Before The Second Coming, He Enters Into The Non-Literal 1,000 Year Reign

Many That Promote Millennialism Teach, Satan Cant Be Presently Bound Because Evil Exist In The World?

Satan Is Presently Bound From (One Specific Purpose) As Is Clearly Seen In (Revelation) 20:7-8 Below That Interprets (Deceive The Nations) Is To Battle, Not General Evil In The World Presently.

Satan Is Loosed At The End Of The Tribulation When The 6th Vial Is Poured Out As Seen In (Revelation) 16:12, The Deception Is Devils In False Miracles Going Forth To The Kings Of The Earth, To Gather Them To The Final Battle

Revelation 20:1-9KJV
1 And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand.
2 And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,
3 And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.
4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.
6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.
7 And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,
8 And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog, and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.
9 And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.

(Revelation) 16:12-14 & (Revelation) 20:7-8 Same Deception In Gathering The Nations To The Very Same Final Battle In "Parallel" Teachings Of The Same Event

(Revelation) 16:12-17KJV
12 And the sixth angel poured out his vial upon the great river Euphrates; and the water thereof was dried up, that the way of the kings of the east might be prepared.
13 And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs come out of the mouth of the dragon, and out of the mouth of the beast, and out of the mouth of the false prophet.
14 For they are the spirits of devils, working miracles, which go forth unto the kings of the earth and of the whole world, to gather them to the battle of that great day of God Almighty.
15 Behold, I come as a thief. Blessed is he that watcheth, and keepeth his garments, lest he walk naked, and they see his shame.
16 And he gathered them together into a place called in the Hebrew tongue Armageddon.
17 And the seventh angel poured out his vial into the air; and there came a great voice out of the temple of heaven, from the throne, saying, It is done.

Edited February 7, 2022 by truth7t7

[luigi]

If I were to assess who of the four horsemen of the Apocalypse Russia fits, I would say Russia invading Ukraine, Georgia, and any other of its former members represents the second horseman of the apocalypse who is given authority to kill one another.

Revelation 6:4 And there went out another horse that was red: and power was given to him that sat thereon to take peace from the earth, and that they should kill one another: and there was given unto him a great sword.

[existential mabel]

19 hours ago, Marilyn C said:

Yes that is what I see too.

 

19 hours ago, Marilyn C said:

i thought the blood that passed the horses bridle was in Armageddon and not in the soon to be Russian War.

its just that i am finding it confusing mixing the two events into one thread thats all glad i cleared that up then!

[existential mabel]

19 hours ago, Marilyn C said:

Thanks mabel, we need to get back to the topic.

yes that would be great otherwise people who are still learning like me get lost in the thicket of other scenarios that dont figure. maybe another thread for the other Russian war might be a good idea

[truth7t7]

1 hour ago, existential mabel said:

yes that would be great otherwise people who are still learning like me get lost in the thicket of other scenarios that dont figure. maybe another thread for the other Russian war might be a good idea

There isn't a future Russian war seen in either Ezekiel 39 or Revelation 20

Edited February 7, 2022 by truth7t7

[Marilyn C]

4 hours ago, existential mabel said:

yes that would be great otherwise people who are still learning like me get lost in the thicket of other scenarios that dont figure. maybe another thread for the other Russian war might be a good idea

Hi mabel,

Yes that is a good idea. Another thread for Armageddon. Might even start it myself..... Anyways that battle is the world`s armies brought down to the valley outside Jerusalem. 

The final Gog & Magog, (northern nation) war is at the end of the Millennium and also the world`s armies around Jerusalem.

Same destination in each battle but with different participants.

Hope that is clearer.

[truth7t7]

22 minutes ago, Marilyn C said:

Hi mabel,

Yes that is a good idea. Another thread for Armageddon. Might even start it myself..... Anyways that battle is the world`s armies brought down to the valley outside Jerusalem. 

The final Gog & Magog, (northern nation) war is at the end of the Millennium and also the world`s armies around Jerusalem.

Same destination in each battle but with different participants.

Hope that is clearer.

I Disagree

The battle of armageddon seen in Revelation 16 and the battle of Gog/Magog seen in Revelation 20 are the same exact battle and event,that will see the (End)

Revelation 20:1-6 isnt a literal Millennial Kingdom on this earth, and the book of Revelation is taught in "Parallel" teachings in same events, not chronologically as many believe and teach

When the 7th vial is poured out at the time of Armageddon (It Is Done) The End,

There won't be a Millennial Kingdom on this earth following the words (It Is Done)

Revelation 16:16-17KJzv

16 And he gathered them together into a place called in the Hebrew tongue Armageddon.

17 And the seventh angel poured out his vial into the air; and there came a great voice out of the temple of heaven, from the throne, saying, It is done.

Edited February 7, 2022 by truth7t7

[abcdef]

4 hours ago, truth7t7 said:

I Disagree

The battle of armageddon seen in Revelation 16 and the battle of Gog/Magog seen in Revelation 20 are the same exact battle and event,that will see the (End)

I agree

4 hours ago, truth7t7 said:

Revelation 20:1-6 isnt a literal Millennial Kingdom on this earth,

The mill kingdom is the time of the Pentecost new covenant kingdom, taking place in heaven and on earth. 

The time on earth is shown by the 1st and 2nd resurrection and the events that take place on earth, such as the surrounding of Jerusalem by armies. 

The saints from the 1st resurrection (Jesus), rule the new covenant kingdom by the words of the Bible.

 

4 hours ago, truth7t7 said:

and the book of Revelation is taught in "Parallel" teachings in same events, not chronologically as many believe and teach

I agree

Understanding the beginning and the end of events shown reveal the details that are given surrounding the events.

 

4 hours ago, truth7t7 said:

When the 7th vial is poured out at the time of Armageddon (It Is Done) The End,

There won't be a Millennial Kingdom on this earth following the words (It Is Done)

Yes

 

4 hours ago, truth7t7 said:

Revelation 16:16-17KJzv

16 And he gathered them together into a place called in the Hebrew tongue Armageddon.

17 And the seventh angel poured out his vial into the air; and there came a great voice out of the temple of heaven, from the throne, saying, It is done.

Rev 15:8, shows that people could not enter the heavenly temple until after the last event of Rev 16, the 7th vial.

For people/souls to enter the heavenly temple, they must be judged and purified, which happens after the final judgment shown in Rev 20:11-15.

[truth7t7]

7 hours ago, abcdef said:

I agree

The mill kingdom is the time of the Pentecost new covenant kingdom, taking place in heaven and on earth. 

The time on earth is shown by the 1st and 2nd resurrection and the events that take place on earth, such as the surrounding of Jerusalem by armies. 

The saints from the 1st resurrection (Jesus), rule the new covenant kingdom by the words of the Bible.

 

I agree

Understanding the beginning and the end of events shown reveal the details that are given surrounding the events.

 

Yes

 

Rev 15:8, shows that people could not enter the heavenly temple until after the last event of Rev 16, the 7th vial.

For people/souls to enter the heavenly temple, they must be judged and purified, which happens after the final judgment shown in Rev 20:11-15.

Yes the battle of Armageddon and Gog/Magog are exactly the same battle in parallel teachings

It's not going to be just Russia, but the whole world will be drawn to Israel by Devils at the close of the tribulation

Jesus Christ will return in fire and final judgement, dissolving this earth by fire

All men's works will be judged by this last day fire, the righteous will pass through this to the eternal kingdom in the new heaven and earth, the wicked is caught in it for eternity (Lake Of Fire)

 1 Corinthians 3:13KJV

13 Every man's work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man's work of what sort it is.

2 peter 3:10KJV

10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.

Edited February 8, 2022 by truth7t7

[abcdef]

5 hours ago, truth7t7 said:

Yes the battle of Armageddon and Gog/Magog are exactly the same battle in parallel teachings

Add the 6/7th trumpet to the events of the 6/7th vial and the final battle of Rev 20 at the 2nd resurrection and you have an exact picture of what is happening in the middle east right now. 

Not some distant future event, the final battle/war is happening right now.

 

5 hours ago, truth7t7 said:

It's not going to be just Russia, but the whole world will be drawn to Israel by Devils at the close of the tribulation

The times of the gentiles ended when Jerusalem was completely under the military control of Israel in 1967, Lk 21:24.

This ended the tribulation period which actually began when Babylon seized Jerusalem (head of gold, Dan. 2). The "great" tribulation period that Jesus spoke about was the second part of the times of the gentiles from 70 AD until 1967. 

The end of the times of the gentiles opens the door for the final events on this planet, as seen in the stone striking the statue of Dan 2.

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As you have stated that you believe that the events of the Rev are parallel, which I agree with, it shows that Iran is the main army, crossing the Euphrates River to attack restored to Israel Jerusalem. (6th trumpet, 6th vial)

Russia and the other nations play a supporting role in this event.

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The things that are happening now, the Russian attacks, the build up of arms around Israel, the failing support for Israel, are all leading to this final event of Jerusalem falling.

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Once Jerusalem falls, the salt of the earth will be, gone. 

The thought is that once this present Jerusalem falls, that the children of Israel will not continue as a unique race, but will be absorbed into the gentile nations in a relatively short period of time, say 100 years. 

 

5 hours ago, truth7t7 said:

Jesus Christ will return in fire and final judgement, dissolving this earth by fire

All men's works will be judged by this last day fire, the righteous will pass through this to the eternal kingdom in the new heaven and earth, the wicked is caught in it for eternity (Lake Of Fire)

Yes, but the planet earth will not be gone until "heaven and earth fly away" at the last judgment of Rev 20.

The fire destroys all human life on this planet. 

 

5 hours ago, truth7t7 said:

 

 1 Corinthians 3:13KJV

13 Every man's work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man's work of what sort it is.

2 peter 3:10KJV

10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.

The problem for many seems to be understanding the difference between the scriptures describing the 70 AD destruction of Jerusalem and the final destruction of earthly Jerusalem as seen at the 7th trumpet, the 7th vial, and the Rev 20 second resurrection.

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Yes, Russia is preparing for war, but they are going to support Iran in the invasion of Israel.

The events that are happening now are leading up to the fall of Jerusalem and the end of human life on this planet.

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