The End Time Seed War

[Dennis1209]

3 hours ago, Last Daze said:

When it says "came into the daughters of men" couldn't that mean that the pregnant women were possessed by them?  And they genetically altered the DNA of the offspring?

It's my view that angels can not create anything but can manipulate the existing natural realm.  They may be able to take on the appearance of human form but I doubt that form could be a biologically functioning human.

If angels can transform in to fully functioning human bodies, why not transform into women as well?  I think the answer lies in Satan's plan to irreversibly corrupt the seed of the woman in an effort to prevent the Messiah.  That's why they targeted women.

Not really adamant about the above.  It just seems to make more sense then angels whimsically deciding to have sex with humans.  Satan's focus was to derail God's plan and all he knew at that time was that his battle would be against the seed of the woman.  Later, as more information was revealed, we see a series of kingdoms subjugating Israel what would be pictured as the seven heads of Satan.

I'm not adamant with my understandings either, it's only what makes sense to me and how I interpret it. 

Yes, not only did Satan and his minions try to completely wipe out the Jewish race (genocide) on a number of occasions. Up to WW II and coming again, they tried to contaminate the blood line of the coming Messiah, and will contaminate humanity again. I think it's stall tactics to extend the inevitable, Satan knows full well he is defeated.

We cannot enter the spiritual realm, but the spiritual realm enters our 3D reality. Demons and fallen angels are two separate classes of beings, we have no idea of the power of just one angel. Based on what Jesus said to doubting Thomas, the Sodomites wanting relations with the two angels, and angels manifesting in the flesh; I reason they can do what any human can do.

You make a good point I've considered as well; "When it says "came into the daughters of men" couldn't that mean that the pregnant women were possessed by them?" Certainly, if demons can possess people, animals, and things, fallen angels can. I don't discount it, and it's a possibility, but... A DNA structure change would be required to produce half human, and half angelic Nephilim. I reason it more likely angels transformed themselves into some form of operational biological flesh? 

[Dennis1209]

3 hours ago, missmuffet said:

We don't know God's plan for this world in these end times. We also do not know how much of the world's devastation we will experience before the rapture of the Church. 

I agree with your second sentence. 

[missmuffet]

8 minutes ago, Dennis1209 said:

I agree with your second sentence. 

Revelation does give us a good idea but we don't really know the details. I will leave it to Him. People seem to know but they really don't. 

[Dennis1209]

1 hour ago, angels4u said:

Life will be different as we will be immortal and serve God day and night and do whatever He wants us to do 

We're very much living in those days...

We are living in those days and understanding where this is all going...

S

Amen.

https://www.blueletterbible.org/faq/don_stewart/don_stewart_756.cfm

Good old Don Stewart. I like him, and especially when he gets together with Tom Hughes. I have Don Stewart's website also book marked:

https://educatingourworld.com/

[AdHoc]

1 hour ago, abcdef said:

The sons of God were children of Adam. The women were from other tribes that existed at that time.

 

6 hours ago, Dennis1209 said:

I don’t know how the Line of Cain and Seth can be inferred out of the above verses?

Lk 3:38, Adam was the son of God. So the sons of Adam were also considered sons of God.

Jn 10:34, "Ye are gods"

 

15 minutes ago, Dennis1209 said:

That's kind of like what I was getting too 

May I propose a measured explanation for the "sons of God" in Genesis Chapter 6.

We have THREE different "sons of God" in the Bible. But the basic meaning is the same, that is, they had their ORIGIN through and by God.

1. The first is our Lord Jesus. He is begotten by God and His total humanity, and His being is permeated by the Triune God. The fullness of the Godhead dwells in Him bodily (Col.2:9). Thus, He is the ONLY begotten Son (Jn.1:14, 18, 3:16 etc.).
2. Those who were born of the Holy Spirit - Christians (Jn.1:12-13). John 3:6 says that only the human spirit is born again and not the flesh
3. Those who had their ORIGIN in the Creator, which includes the angels and mankind in the person of Adam (Lk.3:38). In Job 38:7 the sons of God rejoiced when God laid the foundations of the earth. That is, they were around BEFORE the earth was made. They must be angels because in (i) Job.1:6-7 and 2:1 they appear in heaven, and (ii) Satan, an angel, is one of them.

Now, in Genesis 6:2 we have a CONTRAST. It reads;

 2 That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose.

It is NOT the "sons of men took them wives of the daughters of men" like Genesis 5:7, 10, 13, 16 19, etc.. A CONTRAST is made between "sons of God" showing that angels are spirits like God* (Ps.104:4, Jn.4:24) and the "daughters of men" because Adam's line produced "sons and daughters" - but they had their ORIGIN in human-KIND.

 

* This does not mean that angels do not have bodies, but their  make-up, like God, that they are intrinsically spirit, with the addition of an ethereal body. Man is a "Soul" (Gen.2:7) with a physical body.

[Dennis1209]

3 minutes ago, missmuffet said:

Revelation does give us a good idea but we don't really know the details. I will leave it to Him. People seem to know but they really don't. 

We know what we're given to watch for. Some say we are to be watching for Jesus, and not the Antichrist or the Tribulation. 

Matthew 25:13 Watch therefore, for ye know neither the day nor the hour wherein the Son of man cometh.

There are no signs or preconditions to watch for pertaining to the Rapture of the church, or the Lord's second coming to earth. So, what are we to watch for? The signs of the times, the approaching Tribulation period. 

True, we don't know all the particulars and how they will play out, but we know the soon-to-come events that will occur. 

 

 

[Alive]

4 hours ago, Last Daze said:

When it says "came into the daughters of men" couldn't that mean that the pregnant women were possessed by them?  And they genetically altered the DNA of the offspring?

It's my view that angels can not create anything but can manipulate the existing natural realm.  They may be able to take on the appearance of human form but I doubt that form could be a biologically functioning human.

If angels can transform in to fully functioning human bodies, why not transform into women as well?  I think the answer lies in Satan's plan to irreversibly corrupt the seed of the woman in an effort to prevent the Messiah.  That's why they targeted women.

Not really adamant about the above.  It just seems to make more sense then angels whimsically deciding to have sex with humans.  Satan's focus was to derail God's plan and all he knew at that time was that his battle would be against the seed of the woman.  Later, as more information was revealed, we see a series of kingdoms subjugating Israel what would be pictured as the seven heads of Satan.

Interesting. I do not know, but an interesting take.

[truth7t7]

5 hours ago, AdHoc said:

So, when Israel spied out the Good Land, the Canaanites were mixing with angels and producing giants. That also explains why God commanded Israel to wipe out whole cities with inhabitants and animals - to eradicate the "seed"

 

No Angel's don't maintain human sperm, neither do the give in marriage, or create offspring

The teaching of the Nephilim and its supporter in Church Missler are both water under the bridge, as Missler died years ago, and the fervor of his teachings in error followed

Edited February 9, 2022 by truth7t7

[AdHoc]

5 hours ago, truth7t7 said:

Of course the book of Daniel was written prophetically to the Church, as he writes of the future great tribulation and last day resurrection seen below, that will pertain directly to the "Future Church"

Daniel 12:2 and John 5:28-29 are parallel teachings of the same event, in the Last Day resurrection

Daniel 12:1-2KJV

1 And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time: and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book.

2 And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt.

Perhaps you should reconsider. The grammar says TWICE, in verse 1, "THY PEOPLE" - Daniel's People. The Church is GOD'S PEOPLE.

I'll let my statement stand.

[Dennis1209]

6 minutes ago, AdHoc said:

 

May I propose a measured explanation for the "sons of God" in Genesis Chapter 6.

We have THREE different "sons of God" in the Bible. But the basic meaning is the same, that is, they had their ORIGIN through and by God.

1. The first is our Lord Jesus. He is begotten by God and His total humanity, and His being is permeated by the Triune God. The fullness of the Godhead dwells in Him bodily (Col.2:9). Thus, He is the ONLY begotten Son (Jn.1:14, 18, 3:16 etc.).
2. Those who were born of the Holy Spirit - Christians (Jn.1:12-13). John 3:6 says that only the human spirit is born again and not the flesh
3. Those who had their ORIGIN in the Creator, which includes the angels and mankind in the person of Adam (Lk.3:38). In Job 38:7 the sons of God rejoiced when God laid the foundations of the earth. That is, they were around BEFORE the earth was made. They must be angels because in (i) Job.1:6-7 and 2:1 they appear in heaven, and (ii) Satan, an angel, is one of them.

Now, in Genesis 6:2 we have a CONTRAST. It reads;

 2 That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose.

It is NOT the "sons of men took them wives of the daughters of men" like Genesis 5:7, 10, 13, 16 19, etc.. A CONTRAST is made between "sons of God" showing that angels are spirits like God* (Ps.104:4, Jn.4:24) and the "daughters of men" because Adam's line produced "sons and daughters" - but they had their ORIGIN in human-KIND.

 

* This does not mean that angels do not have bodies, but their  make-up, like God, that they are intrinsically spirit, with the addition of an ethereal body. Man is a "Soul" (Gen.2:7) with a physical body.

I basically agree with you view. Cherubim, Seraphim, the living Beasts, Angel's and the heavenly host, are direct creations of God. They can be summed up as בֵּן bên אֱלֹהִים ʼĕlôhîym (sons of God - Spirits). Yes, they were created sometime before Adam & Eve, and witnessed creation.

Only Adam was a direct creation by God, not ex nihilo, but material mold. Adam was created a "son of God', we are not, we are the sons of Adam.

1 Corinthians 15:45 And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit.