The Adversary In Action

[Michael37]

11 hours ago, Starise said:

I was thinking that it would be a good idea to maybe have concrete examples of the ways in which our adversary works. Actual examples. It seems when the subject of spiritual warfare comes up we say it happens, yet no examples are given.

In Scripture, and also in my neck of the woods examples of the Adversary at work are not hard to find.

As a teenager I suddenly awoke to strange noises around midnight and witnessed a Satan-worshipping coven of men and women doing a naked ritual dance around the large specimen oak tree adjacent to our church. We called the police but by time they responded the cult members had dispersed.

Mat 16:23  But He turned and said to Peter, "Get behind Me, Satan! You are an offense to Me, for you are not mindful of the things of God, but the things of men."

Luk 22:3-6  Then Satan entered Judas, surnamed Iscariot, who was numbered among the twelve.  (4)  So he went his way and conferred with the chief priests and captains, how he might betray Him to them.  (5)  And they were glad, and agreed to give him money.  (6)  So he promised and sought opportunity to betray Him to them in the absence of the multitude.

Act 5:1-3  But a certain man named Ananias, with Sapphira his wife, sold a possession.  (2)  And he kept back part of the proceeds, his wife also being aware of it, and brought a certain part and laid it at the apostles' feet.  (3)  But Peter said, "Ananias, why has Satan filled your heart to lie to the Holy Spirit and keep back part of the price of the land for yourself?

Act 26:15-18  “I said, ‘Who are you, Lord?’ “He said, ‘I am Jesus, whom you are persecuting.  (16)  But arise, and stand on your feet, for I have appeared to you for this purpose: to appoint you a servant and a witness both of the things which you have seen, and of the things which I will reveal to you;  (17)  delivering you from the people, and from the Gentiles, to whom I send you,  (18)  to open their eyes, that they may turn from darkness to light and from the power of Satan to God, that they may receive remission of sins and an inheritance among those who are sanctified by faith in me.’

1Th 2:18  Therefore we wanted to come to you—even I, Paul, time and again—but Satan hindered us.

1Th 3:5  For this reason, when I could no longer endure it, I sent to know your faith, lest by some means the tempter had tempted you, and our labor might be in vain.

. . . and other references.

[Michael37]

22 hours ago, Michael37 said:

To my mind corruption, deception, and exploitation are signs that the Adversary is still alive and very much in action. Why else would we be receiving news of war, and be bracing ourselves for its demonic leaven?  

My thinking is that the works of the devil are evident in those he has been able to corrupt, deceive, and exploit, starting with Eve.

2 Corinthians 11:3 ESV 

But I am afraid that as the serpent deceived Eve by his cunning, your thoughts will be led astray from a sincere and pure devotion to Christ.

1 John 3:8 ESV 

Whoever makes a practice of sinning is of the devil, for the devil has been sinning from the beginning. The reason the Son of God appeared was to destroy the works of the devil.

1 John 3:10 ESV

By this it is evident who are the children of God, and who are the children of the devil: whoever does not practice righteousness is not of God, nor is the one who does not love his brother.

[Justin Adams]

13 hours ago, angels4u said:

Who do  you think is doing the deceiving right now?

Many fallen sons of God and haSatan himself. The "deceiving" is ONLY about the gathering of the nations. Read what I said and not what is thought about what I said.

haSatan and Satan is NOT allowed YET to gather the nations against Zion.

THAT IS WHAT I SAID.

Edited March 2, 2022 by Justin Adams

[Justin Adams]

9 hours ago, Starise said:

Care to comment more on this?

It is quite clear in the scriptures that Satan (hasatan et al) are not allowed to gather the nations together against Zion (aka: decieve the nations). That will happen at some time when the fulness or the Gentiles is apparent. Then will come the end in the Har'mo'ed battel for all the marbles at Zion on His Holy Hill.

Edited March 2, 2022 by Justin Adams

[Selah7]

Hey there, Justin.  Why do you think the saints/the Elect will be delivered up in Mark 13:9-11?

Mark 13:5-11

5 And Jesus answering them began to say, Take heed lest any man deceive you:

6 For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.

7 And when ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars, be ye not troubled: for such things must needs be; but the end shall not be yet.

8 For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be earthquakes in divers places, and there shall be famines and troubles: these are the beginnings of sorrows.

9 But take heed to yourselves: for they shall deliver you up to councils; and in the synagogues ye shall be beaten: and ye shall be brought before rulers and kings for my sake, for a testimony against them.

10 And the gospel must first be published among all nations.

11 But when they shall lead you, and deliver you up, take no thought beforehand what ye shall speak, neither do ye premeditate: but whatsoever shall be given you in that hour, that speak ye: for it is not ye that speak, but the Holy Ghost.

[Starise]

2 hours ago, Justin Adams said:

It is quite clear in the scriptures that Satan (hasatan et al) are not allowed to gather the nations together against Zion (aka: decieve the nations). That will happen at some time when the fulness or the Gentiles is apparent. Then will come the end in the Har'mo'ed battel for all the marbles at Zion on His Holy Hill.

Are you basing this on 2 Thess 2:6,7 ?

⁶ And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time.

⁷ For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way.

 

[Starise]

12 hours ago, Marathoner said:

The Lord said, 'I saw Satan fall like lightning from heaven,' telling us that the prophecy delivered by Isaiah was fulfilled by His coming to us all. Scripture explains itself, @Starise. 

But this was my point. Prophets see things happening that haven't happened yet.

[Hopefully]

18 hours ago, Starise said:

I was thinking that it would be a good idea to maybe have concrete examples of the ways in which our adversary works.

I think the way women dress is an example. Each year clothes get skimpier. 
 

In order for women to feel comfortable going out in public like this, society must be okay with it.

Society has been told it is okay by showing examples in the music and fashion industries.

These people are even called influencers. That is their job to influence others. 
 

I believe these industry standards are set by powers in high places. 
 

It has come out many times who a lot of these people in high places worship. Having secret meetings and parties and such. 
 

We are responsible for our own actions and choices but it doesn’t mean we are not purposely tempted to do wrong.

The book of Enoch tells how fallen angels taught: the art of war, metal working, wearing makeup and more. 
 

Some of the wicked things people do we’re not invented by us. 

Edited March 2, 2022 by Hopefully

[Starise]

1 hour ago, Hopefully said:

Society has been told it is okay by showing examples in the music and fashion industries.

These people are even called influencers. That is their job to influence others. 

I wasn't aware there were people dedicated to making changes in fashion called influencers. The name makes sense. 

The music industry in particular has been trying to cross the sexes for the last several decades and it's only gotten worse as time has moved along. Male rock stars wearing female jewelry and clothing. Female artists wearing short hair and men's clothing.

I find it difficult to go buy a basic pair of blue jeans lately in local stores here. All of the pants have odd cuts and colors.

1 hour ago, Hopefully said:

It has come out many times who a lot of these people in high places worship. Having secret meetings and parties and such. 

I have read of this as well and I know what you mean. I can't really repeat it in detail here. It involves some very over the edge behavior which involves people doing unheard of things at these 'parties'. Zero inhibition.

1 hour ago, Hopefully said:

We are responsible for our own actions and choices but it doesn’t mean we are not purposely tempted to do wrong.

The book of Enoch tells how fallen angels taught: the art of war, metal working, wearing makeup and more. 
 

Some of the wicked things people do we’re not invented by us. 

I guess this subject is difficult to cover without including the fallen angels and demons since they are so very integral to all of it.

People seek them out, follow them as gods. The same people who make big decisions about the direction of society. Little wonder things are where they are.

 

Edited March 2, 2022 by Starise

[angels4u]

5 hours ago, Justin Adams said:

Many fallen sons of God and haSatan himself. The "deceiving" is ONLY about the gathering of the nations. Read what I said and not what is thought about what I said.

haSatan and Satan is NOT allowed YET to gather the nations against Zion.

THAT IS WHAT I SAID.

Agree..

Not yet..