The Logos (Word)

[Michael37]

3 minutes ago, Dennis1209 said:

With dark matter and dark energy, the glue that holds everything together?

Aha. In Christ everything consists.

There is so much more to discover, but the fundamentals hold true when observations are recorded, measured, repeated, and proved predictable,

[Your closest friendnt]

14 minutes ago, Dennis1209 said:

There are more opinions on this than I had freckles as a kid. You cannot discuss this topic without first specifying what it means to be made in the image of God. What is meant as an imager of God?

I am not going to go there but condense my thoughts. The Lord wanted a family, and He created a spiritual family that resides in His dimension; he then desired a human family, all for His praise, honor, and glory.

Our planet and the entire universe have been spoken (Logos) into existence with us in mind, not to mention His creation declares His glory.

Suppose the earth was situated anywhere else in our galaxy, the sun or moon further or closer, with no ozone or magnetic field, our oxygen level higher or lower, plus hundreds of other significant things needed to support life here on this planet. The earth was designed, placed, and fashioned for us in mind.

The actual meaning of servant is a better-rendered enslaved person or slave:

John 15:15 Henceforth I call you not servants; for the servant knoweth not what his lord doeth: but I have called you friends; for all things that I have heard of my Father I have made known unto you. [emphasis mine]

[1528] δοῦλος doulos 126× a male slave, or servant, of various degrees, Mt. 8:9, et al. freq.; a servitor, person of mean condition, Phil. 2:7; fem. δούλη, a female slave; a handmaiden, Lk. 1:38, 48; Acts 2:18; δοῦλος, used figuratively, in a bad sense, one involved in moral or spiritual thraldom, Jn. 8:34; Rom. 6:17, 20; 1 Cor. 7:23; 2 Pet. 2:19; in a good sense, a devoted servant or minister, Acts 16:17; Rom. 1:1; one pledged or bound to serve, 1 Cor. 7:22; 2 Cor. 4:5 [1400, 1401] See servant; slave.

Mounce, William D. Mounce’s Complete Expository Dictionary of Old & New Testament Words, Zondervan, 2006, p. 1128.

I see one reason why God created man. God is love; he wants to love us and wants our passion, dedication, and service to Him. Another apparent reason is that we are to carry out His will on earth in His physical absence.

The Lord told both Adam & Noah to be fruitful and multiply. There was no conditional clause such as; until the earth reaches maximum carrying capacity or overpopulated.

The Lord created the expanse and beauty to show His glory. I have wondered if it was intended for human expansion or to visit and explore someday?

If not for the fall and onset of death, disease, famine, war, etc. What would the global population be today?

This a glorious post, right to the point 

[Alive]

13 minutes ago, Dennis1209 said:

With dark matter and dark energy, the glue that holds everything together?

No…Christ but His Word and Will hold it together. Remind me some time to tell the tale of when I looked a particle spin years ago.

lol

[Dennis1209]

14 minutes ago, Michael37 said:

Aha. In Christ everything consists.

There is so much more to discover, but the fundamentals hold true when observations are recorded, measured, repeated, and proved predictable,

Evolution: Observation, repeatability, recorded, measured, predicted. That is what my grandpappy Pond O. Scum says anyway. LoL

[Alive]

13 minutes ago, Dennis1209 said:

Evolution: Observation, repeatability, recorded, measured, predicted. That is what my grandpappy Pond O. Scum says anyway. LoL

Thanks for the chuckle, brother.

[Your closest friendnt]

4 hours ago, Dennis1209 said:

There are more opinions on this than I had freckles as a kid. You cannot discuss this topic without first specifying what it means to be made in the image of God. What is meant as an imager of God?

I am not going to go there but condense my thoughts. The Lord wanted a family, and He created a spiritual family that resides in His dimension; he then desired a human family, all for His praise, honor, and glory.

Our planet and the entire universe have been spoken (Logos) into existence with us in mind, not to mention His creation declares His glory.

Suppose the earth was situated anywhere else in our galaxy, the sun or moon further or closer, with no ozone or magnetic field, our oxygen level higher or lower, plus hundreds of other significant things needed to support life here on this planet. The earth was designed, placed, and fashioned for us in mind.

The actual meaning of servant is a better-rendered enslaved person or slave:

John 15:15 Henceforth I call you not servants; for the servant knoweth not what his lord doeth: but I have called you friends; for all things that I have heard of my Father I have made known unto you. [emphasis mine]

[1528] δοῦλος doulos 126× a male slave, or servant, of various degrees, Mt. 8:9, et al. freq.; a servitor, person of mean condition, Phil. 2:7; fem. δούλη, a female slave; a handmaiden, Lk. 1:38, 48; Acts 2:18; δοῦλος, used figuratively, in a bad sense, one involved in moral or spiritual thraldom, Jn. 8:34; Rom. 6:17, 20; 1 Cor. 7:23; 2 Pet. 2:19; in a good sense, a devoted servant or minister, Acts 16:17; Rom. 1:1; one pledged or bound to serve, 1 Cor. 7:22; 2 Cor. 4:5 [1400, 1401] See servant; slave.

Mounce, William D. Mounce’s Complete Expository Dictionary of Old & New Testament Words, Zondervan, 2006, p. 1128.

I see one reason why God created man. God is love; he wants to love us and wants our passion, dedication, and service to Him. Another apparent reason is that we are to carry out His will on earth in His physical absence.

The Lord told both Adam & Noah to be fruitful and multiply. There was no conditional clause such as; until the earth reaches maximum carrying capacity or overpopulated.

The Lord created the expanse and beauty to show His glory. I have wondered if it was intended for human expansion or to visit and explore someday?

 

4 hours ago, Dennis1209 said:

If not for the fall and onset of death, disease, famine, war, etc. What would the global population be today?

At the time of the fall they were still innocent. 

It's good the Lord hurried up to give the command and orhestating their exit from the Garden. 

They had to mature sooner or later and if not them their children would likely eat from the tree.

So we would have some in the Garden, perhaps waiting to fall if not for this command perhaps for some other.

But this is the problem and perhaps it is a problem that found not be solved. 

It is all about the tree of Life.

How could the tree of Life be restrained from those left behind? And one more problem how about the flaming swords at the entrance. 

Whould they not restrain the exit of those left on the Garden?

And how about the Serpent? Where would he be? 

Trapped in the Garden together with those who did not eat from the fruit? Or restrained outside the Garden.

What an anomaly, what a chaotic situation. 

So it had to happened the way it happened...

And then is another situation.

And this is about the fruit of the tree of Life which it was ready to be given to men after the death of Jesus on the Cross. 

And yet before the fall Adam and Eve had no need of the tree of Life because they were in the Life as they were.

And yet the tree of Life it was not about just the Life, as it was about the Eternal Life which it was available to man after Jesus was born and as he was born with the Life he had to be tested even to be tested with his death on the Cross and then he was found in full obedience to God.

At that time he also shed the blood of the New Covenant for the forgiveness of sins. 

And we are under his blood and we given of his Spirit and he made co-heirs with him of the Heavenly Inheritance. 

This is it Jesus Christ inherit Heaven and not just for himself but also for his family as you like to say.

This is it, a believer in Jesus Christ should see own self in Heaven. Just waiting for his days to be complete hear on earth. 

Nothing can separate us from our Savior, not our sins, not our disobedience and not even death.

Death does not separate us from our Lord and Savior only brings us to him.

 

Edited April 2, 2022 by Your closest friendnt

[Michael37]

28 minutes ago, Dennis1209 said:

Evolution: Observation, repeatability, recorded, measured, predicted. That is what my grandpappy Pond O. Scum says anyway. LoL

The irony that escapes evolutionists is that they don't actually observe it, haven't recorded it, pretend to measure it, can't repeat it, and if it is predictable then it isn't evolution. 

[Your closest friendnt]

1 hour ago, Alive said:

No…Christ but His Word and Will hold it together. Remind me some time to tell the tale of when I looked a particle spin years ago.

lol

The Father has sited Jesus on his right side on the Heavenly Throne together with him, no holds back. 

The man Jesus is in charge now. 

The Heavenly Father has given everything to his beloved Son Jesus. 

There is nothing that he has that he did not give it to Jesus.  

That what the Apostle Paul has written. 

That all the Father has he gave it to the man Jesus who is in the body of his flesh.  

Thus why he can call us brothers. 

Edited April 2, 2022 by Your closest friendnt

[Dennis1209]

11 minutes ago, Michael37 said:

The irony that escapes evolutionists is that they don't actually observe it, haven't recorded it, pretend to measure it, can't repeat it, and if it is predictable then it isn't evolution. 

Everyone has the free will to believe what they want. If they want to be self-deceived and stupid, so be it. But do not cram that nonsense down my children's and grandchildren's throats as fact. Ostracizing and disparaging them for their own stupidity for not believing the lie. Closing any discussion of opposing views and superior evidence marginalizes those using faith and critical thinking. 

[kwikphilly]

Blessing Alive

 I thought I was going to come here & pick up where we left off- rofl

Seems this is a pretty popular thread so Ive got a bit of catching up to do before I join in.. Took a little turn so Ill start from the beginning again to see whats been said, just in case of sounding repetitive!

Logical, right? Lol

With love in Christ, Kwik