How old is the earth biblically

[teddyv]

5 hours ago, Mick70 said:

Just to digress slightly, scientists say the earth is billions of years old, but if that's so, why hasn't all that molten stuff inside it cooled down by now?

Radioactive decay is one suggestion.

[Dennis1209]

@Jayne gave an excellent accurate, descriptive view of the “young earth” theory. Yes, you are getting varied points of view here. Rev. Archbishop James Ussher was “the” or one of the first to calculate and publish the age of humanity by biblical genealogies in 1658 (The Annals of the World). Do some scholars claim there are missing genealogies in the Bible? Yes.

Some early church fathers, such as Irenaeus (c. 180) and many others, hold the creation date at about 4,004 B.C. Some say the earth is 10,000 years old, while others claim it is much older than six to ten thousand years. Fortunately, this is not a Salvation issue, as there is such a division over the planet's age.

I believe that Adam was created about 6,000 years ago, and I do not hold a firm opinion on the original creation age of planet earth, though. We know that Noah’s flood refashioned the geography and landscape of the planet. We know the world will not be eradicated by fervent heat in the book of Revelation but purified and made new again.

An interesting topic indeed, and I have studied it a lot. Another topic of speculation is that we will not know for sure this side of Heaven, and the question is really of little relevance and importance in the big picture. With that said, I am not going into all the many details and word studies. I lean towards the earth being older than six thousand years, based on the preponderance of biblical evidence and the narrative. I am by no means adamant or dogmatic about my assumption. If we knew if the earth was young vs. old, what would it add or detract from God’s inerrant personal message to us?

If you are eager to explore the old earth theory, I highly recommend G.H. Pember’s book, Earth’s Earliest Ages. I studied his work and compared it to scripture, actual lexicon meanings such as bara (ex nihilo) and asah (fashion). Are those two Hebrew words synonymous with each other or not?

I have studied the creation account in contextual grammar with independent and dependent clauses. It is interesting to understand what was spoken into existence (ex nihilo) and what was fashioned by material mold (asah) in the six-day creation week account. Of particular import is Genesis 1:2 and the intended meaning. 

[Dennis1209]

5 hours ago, Mick70 said:

Just to digress slightly, scientists say the earth is billions of years old, but if that's so, why hasn't all that molten stuff inside it cooled down by now?

Those same secular scientists are saying earth is losing its magnetic field now also. That could well be the case?

[Mike Mclees]

15 hours ago, Abdull said:

I am intrested in what the bible say about the age of our planet and humanity. your help would be most appreciated my brothers

I have never taken time to try and figure it out. Is there a reason you want to know or is this just curiosity? Just asking. 

Genesis 1:1 says God created the heavens and the earth .  What time frame are we basing on? Is it man, the earth, or the universe.?  

 

[Starise]

The theory on earth magma has generally been that when a planet turns, internal friction results which keeps planet's insides constantly moving and churning. IOW gravity and those forces combined with planet spin. For this reason even exoplanets are said to have warmth in their interiors far away from the sun.

Then recently large water reserves of HUGE proportions were discovered under Asia. This is another ocean under the earth. It can't all be hot magma down there. I have always been amazed that 200ft down from the solid ground my house sits on I can draw water all day. Must be a large pond down there.....and I hope the ground I'm on is not too close to it. 

[one.opinion]

1 hour ago, Starise said:

Young earthers often use biblical lineage and genealogy to determine the time from Adam to calculate the age of the earth. Their arguments against the earth being older are often opposed to the processes old earthers think prove the earth is older. According to them geologic strata could have been laid down very fast instead of in millions of years. They lean most on the bible and least on science.They see skeleton dating as a very imperfect science. They strongly oppose the explanations given by evolutionists as to the origin of species.

Christian old earthers often try to fit their theology into their concept of earth age. Many of these people are convinced scientists whose lines of study  have been involved with geology or fossil recovery and dating. Others who are educated in biology whose educational backgrounds were basically founded on an evolutionary model.

Those educated in these things will often attempt to take a high ground based on what they are convinced they know. After all, they are the experts right? The sometimes condescension coming across to students of the bible often causes arguments and rifts.

The views on this particular issue vary considerably. Praise God that we can see this issue differently, yet understand the same theological points that the author wanted the audience to receive.

1.  God created the universe and everything in it.

2.  God created humanity special - living things that could communicate with Him.

3.  Humans have sinned and as a result, have an existence separated from God.

4.  God promised a way to fix that broken relationship through Jesus Christ.

[one.opinion]

16 minutes ago, Heaven_Bound said:

Christ shows us that man was created in the Beginning, so the human race according to Jesus is a few days [5] younger than the Earth.   Mark 10:6 But from the beginning of creation, God ‘made them male and female.

From the beginning of Adam and Eve, sure. This was the context of Jesus's words in the Mark 10 passage.

[one.opinion]

27 minutes ago, Heaven_Bound said:

No, Christ said From the Beginning of Creation...

Yes, the creation of Adam and Eve. Again, check out the context of Mark 10.

[one.opinion]

I fully understand that I have brothers and sisters in Christ that believe differently about this issue than I do. I have no problem with that. What I do have a problem with is people claiming that "you don't take the Bible seriously if you believe in evolution" or "you are calling God a liar if you believe in evolution." Comments like these are not common here, but I have certainly read them at this forum. Such comments are plainly false.

[one.opinion]

22 minutes ago, Heaven_Bound said:

There is no Context, this is GOD SPEAKING.   This is God being perfectly clear.   The Beginning of Creation we see in Genesis 1:2 is God upon the Face of Earth.   Jesus is saying even then Man was already created. 

I understand that is your interpretation. That does not mean your interpretation is correct.

There is ALWAYS context in Biblical passages. That is what helps prevent prooftexting. The Biblical context means looking at surrounding verses regarding the meaning of particular verses. The context IS the Bible.

17 minutes ago, Heaven_Bound said:

I am merely pointing out if what God is saying here, and it means like it is read since we always see Jesus straight to the point, then we need to consider He did not use Evolution as man thinks.

Absolutely. I do consider that possibility. However, my conclusion about the age of the earth is different from yours. Regardless, as I have previously laid out, the major theological points are the same for both of us. (At least, I assume so since you haven't commented on the major theological points I laid out earlier)