President Bush

[Giaour]

Has this thread turned into a bash Bush thread?

Why not, he gets blamed no matter what happens?

The flooding in Lousiana was the local govt's fault. They misappropriated (stole) funds that were supposed to go to the levies. Charges were pending before katrina hit.

How about we go back to judging Bushs salvation? LOL

[other one]

Has this thread turned into a bash Bush thread?

Why not, he gets blamed no matter what happens?

The flooding in Lousiana was the local govt's fault.  They misappropriated (stole) funds that were supposed to go to the levies.  Charges were pending before katrina hit.

How about we go back to judging Bushs salvation? LOL

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Well to quote Harry Truman "the buck stops here" and the president even told us that he was at least partially responsible for the things that went wrong.

About him and his salvation, I personally don't know. There are things he has done and said that I personally disagree with, but there are a lot of things within the United Methodist Church that I disagree with also.......... so maybe it is his denomination and not his salvation that I am at odds with.....

But I do think he is a lousy president and has caused us much harm, I can also say that I believe he is doing what he has to do to survive where he is and nothing would have changed no matter who was in office. The powers that be select whomever they want for us to choose from, but all that we choose from are bound to those that put them in the position to run. I don't think we can get into this here though, besides it is just too depressing to push the details upon everyone....

[Giaour]

He loves the Lord.

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Yes, I know...and I'm happy he's in office...although I wish he would be more in-your-face to these people about God...What can I say? My husband calls me an extorter...

Anyway...this isn't a Bush-bashing thread - I just want to know what religion he is.

Thanks.

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Nice effort DaBronx, looks like your thread has been hijacked.

[Gerioke]

He loves the Lord.

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Yes, I know...and I'm happy he's in office...although I wish he would be more in-your-face to these people about God...What can I say? My husband calls me an extorter...

Anyway...this isn't a Bush-bashing thread - I just want to know what religion he is.

Thanks.

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Nice effort DaBronx, looks like your thread has been hijacked.

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It was also answered.

[Constant]

You are correct Gerioke. We can't have a thread on the President without it becoming a "war" zone. Anyway, I hope you found the answer you were looking for.

[Trust & Obey]

Has this thread turned into a bash Bush thread?

Why not, he gets blamed no matter what happens?

The flooding in Lousiana was the local govt's fault.  They misappropriated (stole) funds that were supposed to go to the levies.  Charges were pending before katrina hit.

How about we go back to judging Bushs salvation? LOL

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Well to quote Harry Truman "the buck stops here" and the president even told us that he was at least partially responsible for the things that went wrong.

Personally, I think Bush's "part of it is my fault" speech was simply political because people wanted to hear it. The problem is with Louisiana. People are so used to getting a government hand out whenever something goes wrong that they blame that same government for the problem that happened in the first place. Our government has created a welfare state and those under it are completely dependent upon Big Government to sustain themselves. I say the Fed has no responsibility to do anything, fix anything, or bring anything to Louisiana. Now, if they choose to do so it is very appreciated. But, they don't owe. it. Now, that is the idealistic view. The practical view is that they tax us to death and so by golly they do owe it!

But I do think he is a lousy president and has caused us much harm, I can also say that I believe he is doing what he has to do to survive where he is and nothing would have changed no matter who was in office.  The powers that be select whomever they want for us to choose from, but all that we choose from are bound to those that put them in the position to run.  I don't think we can get into this here though, besides it is just too depressing to push the details upon everyone....

Nope... keep them red pills in your pocket.

[Smalcald]

With public figures, they have a job to do, and all we see is how they try to do that particular job. We don't really see how they actually treat people, how they actually treat their families, how they pray, how they really live their lives.

I think from what I have seen Bush is probably pretty honest in his faith. I think he was a party boy for a good portion of his life, then repented and got right with God. But that is from the outside, and I don't know him, I think we would have to ask people who pray with him, people in his family, his close friends and those he works with if he evidences someone who has faith, are their fruits of faith there? It really is almost impossible for us to tell, but I try always to ere on the side of accepting anyone as a Christian who claims Christ as their Lord and Savior, which he does.

I always think of what good it does my soul to judge someone, versus what good it does my soul to accept someone as a Christian, in very few instances does judging someone win.

We don't have to answer for anyone's soul accept our own, and for me that is hard enough.

Politically I like some of what he has done, and don't like other things he has done; I am pretty neutral on him politically. As far as these hurricanes go and FEMA, I think he appointed a bunch of boobs to run that agency and we are paying the price. But handing out political plumbs is not his invention. I do worry that we have created a Homeland Security agency that is incompetent, and that is a major issue.

[jmwhalen]

Bush's on record statements(underline is mine):

On November 7, 2002, Bush hosted another Iftar at the White House "to help usher in the holy month of Ramadan."

"Some of the comments that have been uttered about Islam do not reflect the sentiments of my government or the sentiments of most Americans. Islam, as practiced by the vast majority of people, is a peaceful religion, a religion that respects others. Ours is a country based upon tolerance and we welcome people of all faiths in America."

Remarks by President George W. Bush in a statement to reporters during a meeting with U.N. Secretary General Kofi Annan

The Oval Office, Washington, DC

November 13, 2002

"Islam is a vibrant faith. Millions of our fellow citizens are Muslim. We respect the faith. We honor its traditions. Our enemy does not. Our enemy doesn't follow the great traditions of Islam. They've hijacked a great religion."

Remarks by President George W. Bush on U.S. Humanitarian Aid to Afghanistan Presidential Hall, Dwight David Eisenhower Executive Office Building, Washington, D.C.

October 11, 2002

"All Americans must recognize that the face of terror is not the true faith -- face of Islam. Islam is a faith that brings comfort to a billion people around the world. It's a faith that has made brothers and sisters of every race. It's a faith based upon love, not hate."

President George W. Bush Holds Roundtable with Arab and Muslim-American Leaders Afghanistan Embassy, Washington, D.C.

September 10, 2002

"According to Muslim teachings, God first revealed His word in the Holy Qur'an to the prophet, Muhammad, during the month of Ramadan. That word has guided billions of believers across the centuries, and those believers built a culture of learning and literature and science. All the world continues to benefit from this faith and its achievements."

Remarks by the President George W. Bush At Iftaar Dinner

The State Dining Room, Washington, D.C. November 19, 2001

"The Islam that we know is a faith devoted to the worship of one God, as revealed through The Holy Qur'an. It teaches the value and the importance of charity, mercy, and peace."

President George W. Bush's Message for Ramadan November 15, 2001

"The face of terror is not the true faith of Islam. That's not what Islam is all about. Islam is peace. These terrorists don't represent peace. They represent evil and war."

Remarks by the President at Islamic Center of Washington, D.C.

Washington, D.C. September 17, 2001

When questioned by a British reporter about the God of Islam being the same as the God of Christianity, Bush replied: "I believe we worship the same God."

In an October 26, 2004, Good Morning American interview with Charles Gibson, Bush was asked: "Do we all worship the same God, Christian and Muslim?" His reply: "I think we do."

In his Good Morning American interview, Bush was also asked by Charles Gibson: "Do Christians and non-Christians and Muslims go to heaven in your mind?" His reply: "Yes, they do. We have different routes of getting there. But I will, I, I want you to understand, I want your listeners to understand, I don

[Gerioke]

Bush's on record statements(underline is mine):

On November 7, 2002, Bush hosted another Iftar at the White House "to help usher in the holy month of Ramadan."

"Some of the comments that have been uttered about Islam do not reflect the sentiments of my government or the sentiments of most Americans. Islam, as practiced by the vast majority of people, is a peaceful religion, a religion that respects others. Ours is a country based upon tolerance and we welcome people of all faiths in America."

Remarks by President George W. Bush in a statement to reporters during a meeting with U.N. Secretary General Kofi Annan

The Oval Office, Washington, DC

November 13, 2002

"Islam is a vibrant faith. Millions of our fellow citizens are Muslim. We respect the faith. We honor its traditions. Our enemy does not. Our enemy doesn't follow the great traditions of Islam. They've hijacked a great religion."

Remarks by President George W. Bush on U.S. Humanitarian Aid to Afghanistan Presidential Hall, Dwight David Eisenhower Executive Office Building, Washington, D.C.

October 11, 2002

"All Americans must recognize that the face of terror is not the true faith -- face of Islam. Islam is a faith that brings comfort to a billion people around the world. It's a faith that has made brothers and sisters of every race. It's a faith based upon love, not hate."

President George W. Bush Holds Roundtable with Arab and Muslim-American Leaders Afghanistan Embassy, Washington, D.C.

September 10, 2002

"According to Muslim teachings, God first revealed His word in the Holy Qur'an to the prophet, Muhammad, during the month of Ramadan. That word has guided billions of believers across the centuries, and those believers built a culture of learning and literature and science. All the world continues to benefit from this faith and its achievements."

Remarks by the President George W. Bush At Iftaar Dinner

The State Dining Room, Washington, D.C. November 19, 2001

"The Islam that we know is a faith devoted to the worship of one God, as revealed through The Holy Qur'an. It teaches the value and the importance of charity, mercy, and peace."

President George W. Bush's Message for Ramadan November 15, 2001

"The face of terror is not the true faith of Islam. That's not what Islam is all about. Islam is peace. These terrorists don't represent peace. They represent evil and war."

Remarks by the President at Islamic Center of Washington, D.C.

Washington, D.C. September 17, 2001

When questioned by a British reporter about the God of Islam being the same as the God of Christianity, Bush replied: "I believe we worship the same God."

In an October 26, 2004, Good Morning American interview with Charles Gibson, Bush was asked: "Do we all worship the same God, Christian and Muslim?" His reply: "I think we do."

In his Good Morning American interview, Bush was also asked by Charles Gibson: "Do Christians and non-Christians and Muslims go to heaven in your mind?" His reply: "Yes, they do. We have different routes of getting there. But I will, I, I want you to understand, I want your listeners to understand, I don

[Guest Thomas I believe]

Bush's on record statements(underline is mine):

On November 7, 2002, Bush hosted another Iftar at the White House "to help usher in the holy month of Ramadan."

"Some of the comments that have been uttered about Islam do not reflect the sentiments of my government or the sentiments of most Americans. Islam, as practiced by the vast majority of people, is a peaceful religion, a religion that respects others. Ours is a country based upon tolerance and we welcome people of all faiths in America."

Remarks by President George W. Bush in a statement to reporters during a meeting with U.N. Secretary General Kofi Annan

The Oval Office, Washington, DC

November 13, 2002

"Islam is a vibrant faith. Millions of our fellow citizens are Muslim. We respect the faith. We honor its traditions. Our enemy does not. Our enemy doesn't follow the great traditions of Islam. They've hijacked a great religion."

Remarks by President George W. Bush on U.S. Humanitarian Aid to Afghanistan Presidential Hall, Dwight David Eisenhower Executive Office Building, Washington, D.C.

October 11, 2002

"All Americans must recognize that the face of terror is not the true faith -- face of Islam. Islam is a faith that brings comfort to a billion people around the world. It's a faith that has made brothers and sisters of every race. It's a faith based upon love, not hate."

President George W. Bush Holds Roundtable with Arab and Muslim-American Leaders Afghanistan Embassy, Washington, D.C.

September 10, 2002

"According to Muslim teachings, God first revealed His word in the Holy Qur'an to the prophet, Muhammad, during the month of Ramadan. That word has guided billions of believers across the centuries, and those believers built a culture of learning and literature and science. All the world continues to benefit from this faith and its achievements."

Remarks by the President George W. Bush At Iftaar Dinner

The State Dining Room, Washington, D.C. November 19, 2001

"The Islam that we know is a faith devoted to the worship of one God, as revealed through The Holy Qur'an. It teaches the value and the importance of charity, mercy, and peace."

President George W. Bush's Message for Ramadan November 15, 2001

"The face of terror is not the true faith of Islam. That's not what Islam is all about. Islam is peace. These terrorists don't represent peace. They represent evil and war."

Remarks by the President at Islamic Center of Washington, D.C.

Washington, D.C. September 17, 2001

When questioned by a British reporter about the God of Islam being the same as the God of Christianity, Bush replied: "I believe we worship the same God."

In an October 26, 2004, Good Morning American interview with Charles Gibson, Bush was asked: "Do we all worship the same God, Christian and Muslim?" His reply: "I think we do."

In his Good Morning American interview, Bush was also asked by Charles Gibson: "Do Christians and non-Christians and Muslims go to heaven in your mind?" His reply: "Yes, they do. We have different routes of getting there. But I will, I, I want you to understand, I want your listeners to understand, I don