Fauci to step down

[missmuffet]

46 minutes ago, Starise said:

This is not the comparison in my opinion. While @missmuffet may speak for herself and give her own reasons.

I will tell you how I interpreted her comment, "It is looking more like WW2 Nazi Germany". Just hear me out before you jump to conclusions here. 

Ask yourself how what has been happening could in any way be " Nazi like"?  To me, her comments were saying we seem to be moving in that direction. Not that we are there ......yet.

What did the beginning of Nazi control look like? What did it look like before they had the whole country under their control? What kinds of things were they doing then? How are the things being done now maybe similar?

Of all people, I would think a Jewish person whose relatives lived through, and in many cases died due to such tragic events, would be very wary of some of the behavior we are seeing from many of our leaders. I recommend digging deeper on Fauci if you haven't.

We are nowhere near Nazi Germany in the US, however I see the signs that we are working in that general direction. While we can't make  direct comparison to a fully functioning Nazi government machine, there are parallels to what led up to it and what is happening in our society now. 

If you want a list I'll make one. None of it started all at once. No one really thought anything terribly bad was going to happen in the beginning stages of it, and no one thinks anything is going to happen this time either.

Too many things are happening all at once to conclude all of it is a big bunch of accidents. 

 

 

 

Yes Although during the 7 year tribulation the earth will get worse than what they saw during WW2. 

Edited August 23, 2022 by missmuffet

[B-B]

24 minutes ago, ayin jade said:

On a personal level, there is a shortage of pharmacy staff because of burnout, not because of "mandatory" vaccinations. All the ones who have quick at my husband's pharmacies have done so because they are tired of the nastiness they are facing on a daily basis from people. Threats, abuse, things thrown at them. Why would people be motivated to work in a pharmacy any more? Hence, you have shortages. 

True

[missmuffet]

6 minutes ago, Jayne said:

I, too, have heard a handful - a small handful on social media- of people equate taking a vaccine with living in Nazi Germany and like you, I think it's the most ludicrous thing I've ever heard in my life.  And I'm not being hyperbolic at all.

It's one's choice for the most part - take it or don't, but this is in no way, shape, or form what victims of the Holocasut endured.

With that being said, for you to dislike Christians 10 times more now than you did when you first came here is not fair.  We didn't ALL claim that being asked to take a vaccine is equated with Nazism.

If someone here ticks you off - address that peron, don't wash all of us in your "dislike" of Christians.

I hope you will stay and just ignore, as best you can, those that bother you.  I know for someone who had family members in the Holocaust it's painful to hear people compare a vaccine to what they endured.

Your "dislike"of Christians has been apparent since you've been here.  It seems to run deep and I wish I knew why.  However, again, I ask you to stay and endure what you can and walk away from what angers you to the breaking point.

We don't want you to leave.

I pray for you often.  

 

Many people lost their job because they demanded that they take the Covid vaccine when they did not want to take it. That is harrassment and bullying. 

[Jayne]

19 minutes ago, missmuffet said:

Many people lost their job because they demanded that they take the Covid vaccine when they did not want to take it. That is harrassment and bullying. 

You right.  You better believe they lost their jobs.  And it IS harrassment and it IS bullying. And it was and is wrong.

But it is not the Holocaust.  I would use a different comparison.

[missmuffet]

32 minutes ago, Jayne said:

You right.  You better believe they lost their jobs.  And it IS harrassment and it IS bullying. And it was and is wrong.

But it is not the Holocaust.  I would use a different comparison.

Not yet but it is coming. 

[Marathoner]

13 hours ago, Sower said:

It happens...sometimes for good reasons.  
"There's safety in numbers" -   "The heard Instinct"   Both can be dangerous. 
No more free thinkers, just follow the crowd. Schools/Universities teach students what to think instead of how to think.
 

 

"Following established medical guidelines!"
      

TRT World;
Drug regulatory authorities, licensing bodies, and doctors often approve of medicines, procedures and guidelines that result in mass harm and death. TRT World examines seven cases where conflict of interest or lax policy went unchecked.

The medical establishment — comprising of doctors, regulatory authorities, licensing bodies, patenting offices and of course the pharmaceuticals — is often seen as the last word on health practices. It is considered an infallible institution immune to error. However, its track-record reeks of fatal blunders which call into question its credibility.

A reversal of the medical establishment's position on previous recommendations — such as the war on fat or the daily consumption of aspirin — every few years seems to have become its modus operandi.

This flip-flopping represents a major quandary since the rest of the world looks to — first and foremost — the US medical establishment as a perceived model of health care excellence to emulate. Countries like the United Kingdom and those in EU often also take their cues from decisions taken by the US Food and Drug Administration (FDA).

Poor judgement exercised by the medical establishment comes at a high price to society. Often no one is held liable; government inaction and a lack of litigious repercussions reinforce the attitude of the medical authorities that they are above reproach.

TRT World takes a closer look at a few instances when failure of policy and regulatory oversight led to death and deformity. While some limitations in drug or medical procedure research are time-bound, the following cases illustrate often physical evidence was ignored for the sake of continuity or profit. Third leading cause of death in USA is going to a hospital, from mistakes/errors, misdiagnosis and incompetence. Easy to look up to verify.

full article here    https://www.trtworld.com/life/7-times-the-medical-establishment-got-it-wrong-167992

Promotion of smoking by doctors  ( doctors got caught with their pants down on this one)....

      

I know, I smoked them 51 yrs. we also had the Kent with Micronite filter made from asbestos....
 

Promotion of smoking by doctors In the US, doctors and Big Tobacco were complicit in promoting cigarettes from the 1930s to the 1950s.Tobacco companies paid physicians, throat doctors in particular, to recommend smoking as a remedy for throat irritation and to perpetuate the notion that smoking was healthy.

Cigarette advertisements in medical journals were the norm. Images of doctors smoking in print ads were a common marketing ploy. The Journal of the American Medical Association (JAMA) published its first cigarette advertisement in 1933 "after careful consideration of the extent to which cigarettes were used by physicians in practice." The advertisements ran for two decades.

The New York State Journal of Medicine also ran ads by cigarette brand Chesterfield with the claim that its product "just as pure as the water you drink."

 

Anyone remember these?

                     

                                                                       (In the transorbital lobotomy, the brain is accessed through the eye sockets)

Dr Walter Freeman was the developer of the ice pick lobotomy, a form of brain surgery he advocated as a panacea to mental illness.

"He went on to travel, in his "lobotomobile" as he dubbed it, to perform the procedure and provide training across the US.

All told, he performed 3,500 lobotomies from 1937 to 1967. The procedure had a disastrous 14 per cent fatality rate and the outcomes for survivors varied dramatically: some were left permanently crippled, others lived in a perpetual vegetative state.

Freeman had questionable criteria as to who was a good candidate for the procedure. He administered the lobotomy for complaints as minor as neck pain. Children were even subjected to the procedure for perceived low intelligence or hyperactive behaviour.

One such case involved a lesser-known member of the Kennedy dynasty and sister of former president John F Kennedy. Rosemary Kennedy was deprived of oxygen at birth and although she was a functional and participatory member of society, she suffered from learning difficulties.

However, her erratic mood swings and bouts of aggression as an adult alarmed her father who had her subjected to a lobotomy when she was 23 years old. The procedure had disastrous consequences; it left her unable to walk or speak coherently. She was subsequently sent away to live out her life in multiple institutions, hidden away from the limelight which defined being a Kennedy."

PS. They are still doing it today, called Craniotomy or Trepanation. (Can Leave a Patient Permanently Disabled)

 

The thalidomide catastrophe

The drug thalidomide, created in Germany by the Grunenthal group, was heavily marketed to pregnant women for morning sickness in the 50s and 60s.

It was available in 46 countries until it was banned in 1961 following a massive spike in the birth of infants with physical deformities worldwide to women who had taken the drug while pregnant.

At least 80,000 babies died before birth and 20,000 were born without limbs due to thalidomide. The consumption of thalidomide by pregnant women resulted in a wide range of birth defects including severe deformity of the limbs or in extreme cases, the absence of limbs.

Reports suggest the companies which distributed and produced the drug in various countries were aware of the side effects that maimed thousands of babies in the womb worldwide, but ignored them for the sake of profit.

The Grunenthal group issued an apology in 2012 part of it read, "We ask that you regard our long silence as a sign of the silent shock that your fate has caused us." Victims felt insulted, they said the apology was insincere.

 

 

Heroin Cough Syrup for Kids (from same drug co. to exterminate Jews at Auschwitz, Bayer AG)

Bayer is mostly associated with aspirin these days. But in the 1920s, the German drug giant advertised heroin as a cough remedy for children. Which sounds wrong, until you realize Bayer’s parent company helped the Nazis exterminate millions of Jews. So in the scheme of things, what’s a little heroin? Bayer’s parent company, Bayer AG, was part of the German chemical conglomerate I.G. Farben, which ran slave-labor factories during the Holocaust
          Full article;       https://apnews.com/article/7b473229d1d46f012c2639d4648319d7

 

Bloodletting Is Still Happening, Despite Centuries of Harm

Ask president George Washington;
That night, Washington woke his wife Martha to say he was feeling very sick, and that he could hardly breathe or talk on his own. The former President asked his overseer, Albin Rawlins, to bleed him. Doctors then arrived and bled him four more times over the next eight hours, with a total blood loss of 40 percent. He later died the next day.                                                                              

 

I believe it is wise to question established medical guidelines today.  My brother was totally paralyzed for thirty four years due to a doctors misdiagnosed injury. It changed our family. My wife's elderly widowed mother was having severe medical problems taking many doctors medications and my wife researched the many drugs on line only to find that two of them should never be used together, ever. She got her of off them and all her mother's symptoms went away quickly/completely.  The 'doctors' were changed. Think for yourself. Question the experts. Don't always trust traditions/experts.

This applies to all facets of life, especially our spiritual health.
I Thank God I was finally exposed/listened to His truth/remedy...and not man's teaching.

 

 

Do you know what trepanation and craniotomy are, Sower? 

[ayin jade]

3 minutes ago, Slibhin said:

I do not dislike Christians and have never said that. My husband was very active in his church so the idea I would marry someone I disliked is absurd. What I am saying is there is definitely a new a not very pleasant light I'm seeing things in. I do not judge people based on their religion or background and will never be that kind of person. I have met Jews who were complete jerks and people of other faiths who were just lovely.

The problem is not so much the people who make these vile comparisons, but the fact that no one seems to really repudiate it. It's like when other users say Jews are all lying and no one bats an eyelash, since I see no one speaking up I assume they agree. When I see people say things like that I will correct them, whether it's about Jews or any other group.

I have been in groups of Jews many times who were ripping up Christians and I always stood up for you, because they were speaking trash.

The anti-science, the maga cult, the occasional anti-Semitism and the conspiracies make me sad.

The reason this stuff also makes me so mad is because my parents are also Pharmacists. They have endured verbal abuse, anti-Semitic attacks and even has animal waste thrown at them by lunatic antivaxxers. It drives me nuts.

What you do not see is the reports that the mods (and me too) see when such anti semetic comments are made. Then either omegaman or george will take action against the ones who make the comments, or just remove the comments, depending on what is said and a pattern of behavior. So when you see such comments, please do not assume we all agree with them. There is much going on that you do not see. As well, some of us also contact people in pm to address such things. 

[ayin jade]

4 minutes ago, Slibhin said:

My parents are pharmacists and have had bags of animal waste thrown at them.

Its terrible. People are just plain mean any more. 

[Marathoner]

21 minutes ago, Slibhin said:

I do not dislike Christians and have never said that. My husband was very active in his church so the idea I would marry someone I disliked is absurd. What I am saying is there is definitely a new and not very pleasant light I'm seeing things in. I do not judge people based on their religion or background and will never be that kind of person. I have met Jews who were complete jerks and people of other faiths who were just lovely.

The problem is not so much the people who make these vile comparisons, but the fact that no one seems to really repudiate it. It's like when other users say Jews are all lying and no one bats an eyelash, since I see no one speaking up I assume they agree. When I see people say things like that I will correct them, whether it's about Jews or any other group.

I have been in groups of Jews many times who were ripping up Christians and I always stood up for you, because they were speaking trash.

The anti-science, the maga cult, the occasional anti-Semitism and the conspiracies make me sad.

The reason this stuff also makes me so mad is because my parents are also Pharmacists. They have endured verbal abuse, anti-Semitic attacks and even has animal waste thrown at them by lunatic antivaxxers. It drives me nuts.

Don't assume that we don't repudiate such vile conduct, my friend. Bear in mind that an internet forum such as this one is the smallest sample size. There's also an underlying truth evident in human behavior; to wit, that the most deplorable of us tend to be the loudest. The self-important clamor to be heard, parading warped opinions and worthless religion like badges of pride. Are you familiar with the Dunning-Kruger effect? 

There are some who talk the talk but when opportunity comes knocking on their door, they are all too eager to reveal what they really think and feel. Indeed, this is the sum total of their religion: hatred and the love of lies. The conduct which sickens us both isn't sanctioned nor condoned by Jesus Christ, slibhin. However, even though it appears as if the wicked prosper on this earth, the day comes when they shall account for it all. It will not go well for them.  

[David1701]

19 hours ago, Slibhin said:

Lol

"You're under arrest for following established medical guidelines!"

I'd recommend the book, "The Real Anthony Fauci", by Robert F. Kennedy Jr..  Fauci has a long history of questionable (putting it very mildly) practices.