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7 minutes ago, JohannPretorius said:

The Bible teaches clearly that after death comes judgment; there is no "second chance."

AH but

Someone dies AND are dead and buried.  They haven't been 'JUDGED' as they haven't been saved, ALL that has happened is they have died. 

NO GIFT OF SALVATION, no 'following HIM' so not a part of the living in heaven, just dead and waiting for the RESURRECTION OF THE DEAD.

CHRIST returns,  and the DEAD,  STILL NEVER HAVING BEEN JUDGED RISE. 

In 1000 years, HAVING been ruled over by the ROD OF IRON and having been taught by the priests, SATAN is released from being bound to go out and DECEIVE the world once again

Taking it from THAT MOMENT

10  And the devil who had deceived them was hurled into the lake of fire and burning brimstone (sulfur), where the beast (Antichrist) and false prophet are also; and they will be tormented day and night, forever and ever.

AND NOW IS WHEN The Final Judgment comes.  NOTICE 'WHO' is standing IN JUDGMENT, as it is THE DEAD.  

These are 'the dead' that resurrect when Christ returns.  

11  And I saw a great white throne and Him who was seated upon it, from whose presence earth and heaven fled away, and no place was found for them [for this heaven and earth are passing away].

12  And I saw the dead, the great and the small, standing before the throne, and books were opened. Then another book was opened, which is the Book of Life; and the dead were judged according to what they had done as written in the books [that is, everything done while on earth].


and once the RESURRECTED DEAD ARE JUDGED

THEN AND ONLY THEN ARE THOSE WHO HAD A FIRST CHANCE AND BLEW IT, RAISED UP TO MEET THEIR FATE.  

13  And the sea gave up the dead who were in it, and death and Hades (the realm of the dead) surrendered the dead who were in them; and they were judged and sentenced, every one according to their deeds.
 

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Posted (edited)
3 minutes ago, NCAP said:

Hitting the + icon on my computer doesn't open up anything. Nothing happens.

AT THE VERY TOP OF THE WINDOW, next to where it has the little worthy icon followed by ASK ME ANYTHING,

there is a line that goes up and down and on the OTHER SIDE OF THAT LINE IS THE PLUS you will be clicking on


THAT is how you open up multiple windows at the same time

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5 minutes ago, DeighAnn said:

AT THE VERY TOP OF THE WINDOW, next to where it has the little worthy icon followed by ASK ME ANYTHING,

there is a line that goes up and down and on the OTHER SIDE OF THAT LINE IS THE PLUS you will be clicking on


THAT is how you open up multiple windows at the same time

If you teach me how to take a picture and get it on the screen I could show you that way.  


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31 minutes ago, JohannPretorius said:

I asked you politely not to reply since what you are teaching is foreign to scriptures @DeighAnn

I will kindly ask you not to tell others they should stop posting on this site.  Report a post if their is an issue.  Let the ministry do their job and you do what you are here to do, which, at this point, is not being part of this ministry where you regulate who can and cannot post.

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Posted (edited)
1 hour ago, DeighAnn said:

If you teach me how to take a picture and get it on the screen I could show you that way.  

I think now I might know what you are talking about. I see a + icon on this current tab, and I hit that all the time to open up a new window. I thought you meant the + icon on the keyboard.

But anyway, to take a picture of the current screen that you are in, such as this one, and wherever you happen to be on the screen, there is a key on the very top row that is labeled: Prt Sc. It is located to the left of Insert. Press the Prt Sc key on your keyboard. That will copy the current screen.

Then start you Paint program, that comes with Windows, if you are using Microsoft Windows as the operating system on your computer. Once the Paint program is up and running, press and hold the Ctrl key followed by V. That will paste the screen you copied into Paint. Save it to file. Then you can upload it and paste it here in any post you want.

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But wait a minute!

I'll take that back. You don't have to save anything to Paint, unless you want to. I scrolled to where I'm making this post, pressed the Prt Sc key on my keyboard, and then pressed and held down the Ctrl key followed by pressing V one time. And presto! Below is the screen.

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Hope this is adequate explanation. Have fun with it.

 

 

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Posted
5 minutes ago, JohannPretorius said:

The Bible teaches clearly that after death comes judgment; there is no "second chance."

Yes, but WHEN does that JUDGMENT COME?  

They die, 1st death is JUST OF THE FLESH.  We all know the first death isn't 'DEATH' death because only GOD can kill BOTH body and soul and that happens AT or AFTER the GWTJ.  

Every man to die and judgment STILL STANDS FIRM UNLESS you can SHOW ME a judgment of the dead that takes place before then. 


You don't seem to take into account ALL THOSE WHO HAVE DIED, who NEVER had a FIRST CHANCE.  

What about all those who were born before Christ who 'weren't' of the bloodline?   

Are they just UNLUCKY and born at a bad time?  Shouldn't they receive TRUTH same as everyone?  It was IMPOSSIBLE for them to have heard Gods words.  So I ask you, DOES THAT seem JUST?  

If Gods will is that ALL come to repentance THEN ALL need to receive the OPPORTUNITY to come to repentance.  

WHAT ELSE WOULD THE LORDS DAY BE HAPPENING FOR?   The saved have been saved and the dead have been judged to death.  The end?

WHY are the DEAD resurrected if not to be of the nations that go to worship.  WHO are we to be 'priests' for,  if not for those WHO NEED priests?  The 'saved' don't need a millennium, a Lords Day.  

Why let Satan 'loose' if everyone has already been saved?  

PLEASE UNDERSTAND, I don't know how you 'see' the Lords Day playing out so I am going from what I understand and 'guessing' as to your understanding.  

FROM my point of view

We live. 
THEN, the 'earth' body dies at which point

1.  Those who received the GIFT of Salvation rise up, follow Him to heaven
OR
2. No GIFT, No rise, No follow,  so descend and AWAIT for heaven to come to earth  CHRISTS 2nd Advent


(remember those who have received the GIFT have died and been RAISED up BEFORE THE DEATH of the flesh and so THE ONLY thing 'holding' us here is this FLESH BODY.  Once this flesh dies we ARE SET FREE TO GO to where we already have been made alive, made into new creatures.

THE DEAD, they have NEVER been raised up to heaven, they MISSED the chance, they didn't receive any of the information that would have kept them FROM death so THEY DON'T KNOW THE WAY, He is THE WAY. BECAUSE THEY DON'T KNOW the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, they have NO WAY to follow Him, to keep on living.  So they DIE, DESCEND and await.  

Those who received the GIFT and Followed Him, return as priests to rule and reign with Him, for HIS DAY having NEVER DIED.  


When WE return, when the kingdoms of this world have become His, THAT IS WHEN the dead resurrect,  

THE WAY to 'everlasting' life,   HAS RETURNED.  

Now they will be taught.  Now they will learn all they need to know to FIND eternal life.  They can't 'come to faith' during that time because ALL will be known.  So no 'quick' being made into a New Creature.  They are going to have to remain 'spiritually dead' for the whole 1000 years.  

and those DEAD have that ONE DAY to get their act together and get their name in the book of life or else it is lake of fire for them and 2nd death.

THEY can get their act together because of all the PRIESTS running around UNHINDERED BY the wiles of Satan and all his false teachings and teachers and influences and ALL OF THEM teaching the exact same truth.  

 


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Posted
9 minutes ago, NCAP said:

Hope this is adequate explanation. Have fun with it.

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12 minutes ago, NCAP said:

I think now I might know what you are talking about. I see a + icon on this current tab, and I hit that all the time to open up a new window. I thought you meant the + icon on the keyboard.

But anyway, to take a picture of the current screen that you are in, such as this one, and wherever you happen to be on the screen, there is a key on the very top row that is labeled: Prt Sc. It is located to the left of Insert. Press the Prt Sc key on your keyboard. That will copy the current screen.

Then start you Paint program, that comes with Windows, if you are using Microsoft Windows as the operating system on your computer. Once the Paint program is up and running, press and hold the Ctrl key followed by V. That will paste the screen you copied into Paint. Save it to file. Then you can upload it and paste it here in any post you want.

image.png.02ce87eb02c7f499b0db11b69f0ec145.png

 

But wait a minute!

I'll take that back. You don't have to save anything to Paint, unless you want to. I scrolled to where I'm making this post, pressed the Prt Sc key on my keyboard, and then pressed and held down the Ctrl key followed by pressing V one time. And presto! Below is the screen.

image.png.9b2b43848da9efcadc63bb217731e2f7.png

Hope this is adequate explanation. Have fun with it.

 

 

OMG, I did it!!  Excellent instructions.  Thank you sooo much.  

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Maybe it's just me, but I'm finding these explanations rambling.

I have always believed based on the bible I know those who die without salvation will have no second chances.

I thought this was the question asked? 

 


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6 minutes ago, Starise said:

Maybe it's just me, but I'm finding these explanations rambling.

I have always believed based on the bible I know those who die without salvation will have no second chances.

I thought this was the question asked? 

Right. No second chance for those who have heard and understood the true Gospel message and yet, will not accept Jesus Christ as their personal Savior.    Selah 

Right. There is no second chance for individuals who have heard and comprehended the true Gospel message but refuse to place their personal faith in Jesus Christ.

Selah’s understanding 

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