Ask Me Anything About Christianity

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3 minutes ago, Rosie1jack2pauline3 said:

I have no idea what you are saying here,it doesn’t make an ounce of sense...with respect...I couldn’t think of a more softer way of saying it...sorry.

All you told me in your post is this: "you have no idea"

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2 minutes ago, Rosie1jack2pauline3 said:

Again..this makes no sense..sorry.🙏

I have no idea...meaning what exactly?

Meaning, an idea that is absent does not exist. If you have an idea, it is because the idea is there in your head.

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16 hours ago, com7fy8 said:

Yes > in Luke 17:20-21 > Jesus says >

"The kingdom of God does not come with observation; nor will they say, 'See, here!' or 'See, there!' For indeed, the kingdom of God is within you." (Luke 17:20-21)

One way I understand this is, that God's kingdom is God's realm - - - of how He is, what He is experiencing, how He does things, and how He rules.

And in this realm of God, we share with Him in this . . . in His love >

"Now hope does not disappoint, because the love of God has been poured out in our hearts by the Holy Spirit who was given to us." (Romans 5:5)

This love is in God; so it is in the kingdom of God, plus this is Heaven's love; and so it is in the realm of Heaven.

My opinion, Starise, is they are the same kingdom, then. But "Kingdom of God" brings out how this is God's kingdom, while the name "Kingdom of Heaven" brings out how this realm of God is higher and better than this earthly world's kingdom. 

What matters is that the love is the same and so more and better than human and worldly loves and ways of loving.

And 1 John 4:17 says >

"Love has been perfected among us in this: that we may have boldness in the day of judgment; because as He is, so are we in this world." (1 John 4:17)

So, in this love we share with Him in how He is in His character > "in this world" John says. Plus, with God we can feel what He is feeling in this gentle and kind all-loving family caring and sharing love. And Philippians 1:9 to me means we discover how He sees things in this love, and how He rules.

This is all in His realm, shared with us in His love living in us.

The bible is singular with respect to the kingdom, as we don't hear about "kingdoms" plural. 

Yet the kingdom is composed of ideas and locations, so I look at the different aspects of the kingdom and in order for me to break it down I generally look at the text to see if it describes a locale or a condition.

This is why I stated the kingdom can potentially be a confusing subject. I'll admit  there were some tight turns in the road for me, and I don't claim to know everything about it. The kingdom is a collective of US believers and God who is a them. Now add to this the idea of a citizenship joined through the Spirit of God.

So I am not looking at different kingdoms, just the multiple ways we see the kingdom from different perspectives.

If I think about this I come up with some odd comparisons, like this one=

Satan is the master deceiver and copycat of God, but he is a very poor copycat, and the things he tries to mimic are poor examples of God's ways yet he doesn't give up.

In our fallen word tech heads talk a lot about connectivity, the cloud and the hive mind. The eventual goal of the internet is to get us all connected through both handheld and implanted devices. To have us all on the same page through manipulative media. Basically brainwashed lemmings.

Now hear me out- In God's kingdom, we will have connectivity  through the Holy Spirit. Actually we already do, but probably not to the extent it will be later since we are held back in these bodies. Our connectivity to God will allow us to still retain our individuality UNLIKE the devil's copy underway. We will be in the kingdom hive which is the best hive in the universe.

When someone says they want to "go to heaven", this tells me they want to go to their final resting place in the KINGDOM.

If the total fruition of the kingdom were ALL here there would be nowhere to go later.

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10 minutes ago, Starise said:

The bible is singular with respect to the kingdom, as we don't hear about "kingdoms" plural. 

Yet the kingdom is composed of ideas and locations, so I look at the different aspects of the kingdom and in order for me to break it down I generally look at the text to see if it describes a locale or a condition.

This is why I stated the kingdom can potentially be a confusing subject. I'll admit  there were some tight turns in the road for me, and I don't claim to know everything about it. The kingdom is a collective of US believers and God who is a them. Now add to this the idea of a citizenship joined through the Spirit of God.

So I am not looking at different kingdoms, just the multiple ways we see the kingdom from different perspectives.

If I think about this I come up with some odd comparisons, like this one=

Satan is the master deceiver and copycat of God, but he is a very poor copycat, and the things he tries to mimic are poor examples of God's ways yet he doesn't give up.

In our fallen word tech heads talk a lot about connectivity, the cloud and the hive mind. The eventual goal of the internet is to get us all connected through both handheld and implanted devices. To have us all on the same page through manipulative media. Basically brainwashed lemmings.

Now hear me out- In God's kingdom, we will have connectivity  through the Holy Spirit. Actually we already do, but probably not to the extent it will be later since we are held back in these bodies. Our connectivity to God will allow us to still retain our individuality UNLIKE the devil's copy underway. We will be in the kingdom hive which is the best hive in the universe.

When someone says they want to "go to heaven", this tells me they want to go to their final resting place in the KINGDOM.

If the total fruition of the kingdom were ALL here there would be nowhere to go later.

For us who are in Christ in the here and now--I think of the 'Kingdom of God' as being the sphere in which He reigns.

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7 hours ago, Rosie1jack2pauline3 said:

 

My question is, how can he come and take us to heaven, when he’s already IN OUR HEARTS/ SPIRIT?

Test.

He is neither in your heart nor in your spirit, because he did not come in the spirit but came in the flesh. (1 John 4:2)

But the word is very near you; it is in your mouth and in your heart, so that you may obey it. (Deut. 30:14 BSB)

And if you don't have his words, then in what way do you have the Spirit of Christ?

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Rosie if you were asking me, I'll take a stab at it. Otherwise I think a good dialog has been established by others. And, no matter who's fault something is thought to be, can we try to keep an efficient thread here? I am not finger pointing to anyone.

Just please think twice, no three times before we type something that may be damaging to someone else. I have had to learn this the hard way, and trust me it's always better to wait to reply or think about how we reply. If things can't be resolved maybe we can have a bull ring thread....second thought maybe that isn't such a good idea.

And Kiwk. What lessons from David do we want to question, or did you want to cover an overview of David's entire life?

Edited September 23, 2022 by Starise

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20 minutes ago, Rosie1jack2pauline3 said:

Oh dear.

Have you read the story of Nicodemus?...tell me why Nicodemus doesn’t understand what Jesus is saying to him and why he doesn’t understand?

 

He couldn't understand because he did not know nor see the things that "we" have seen.

"...we speak of what we know, and we testify to what we have seen, and yet you people do not accept our testimony." (John 3:11 BSB)

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6 minutes ago, Rosie1jack2pauline3 said:

And may I ask, do you believe we are in that sphere in which he reigns?

If not, please explain what you mean by sphere?...many thanks.

Your heart.

[Starise]

Johann,

Many scriptures establish a standard we are expected to do our best to follow, but we ALL drop the ball occasionally, even as believers. Did not Moses strike the rock in anger and suffer dearly for it? Some more often than others. 

If you are doing everything on that list 24/7 then you are either superman or you went to heaven already.

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Attempting to ascertains another's status is also unwise in a forum like this where we are limited to one form of communication, coupled with a variety of cultural and likely some language barriers at times.