Where is his kingdom?

Shilohsfoal · September 28, 2022

14 minutes ago, AdHoc said:

O.K. I'll remove Lucifer. Here is my posting again without Lucifer.

I don't remember saying this, but if you mean that I infer it - then yes. I can live with that reasoning. Here is another. In Daniel 4 the most powerful and ruthless king who ever lived, the one that God Himself designates as gold, Nebuchadnezzar is said by scripture ...

22 It is thou, O king, that art grown and become strong: for thy greatness is grown, and reacheth unto heaven, and thy dominion to the end of the earth. (Da 4:22)

But in verse 25 scripture records ...

... till thou know that the most High ruleth in the kingdom of men, and giveth it to whomsoever he will.

In the same way you propose Christ as King over Meshek and Tubal with Gog the chief Prince of Meshek and Tubal, I propose Nebuchadnezzar as chief prince over a "dominion to the end of the earth". That is, according to rank, God is only one place higher than Nebuchadnezzar.

My proposal is that Christ's worldwide Kingdom can have a local rebellion. the result is that Christ subdues it. God exercised dominion over the earth but Nebuchadnezzar "to the end of the earth". This does not mean that God's dominion was invalid. Christ will rule the whole earth. Magog and company are a local rebellion within that rule. The rebellion is shortlived because Christ Kingdom prevails.

Looking at the borders of the Babylonia empire, one sees that it does not encompass the entire world. In fact it is roughly the same size as the promised land. That land promised to Christ.

As for Gog, Persia, Libia and Ethiopia, being local, I don't think so. It appears that Christ and the saints at Jerusalem are local but the rest of the world outside that locality does not appear to be local. They seem to come from all directions to the land of the Lord where he Lord dwells.

AdHoc · September 28, 2022

2 hours ago, Shilohsfoal said:

Looking at the borders of the Babylonia empire, one sees that it does not encompass the entire world. In fact it is roughly the same size as the promised land. That land promised to Christ.

As for Gog, Persia, Libia and Ethiopia, being local, I don't think so. It appears that Christ and the saints at Jerusalem are local but the rest of the world outside that locality does not appear to be local. They seem to come from all directions to the land of the Lord where he Lord dwells.

Yeah. Even the Roman Empire does not encompass the whole earth in territory. But maybe because it was religious, and had its emissaries mixing in every government, the Lord says it straddles the whole earth.

With Ezekiel 38 and half of 39 covering the Gog rebellion, there is quite a lot of information. I think that although certain nations take the lead in this rebellion, the actual army that forms will have soldiers from just about every nation.

What I see is that God made man to BOTH (i) subdue, and (ii) to rule (Gen.1:26-28). The 1,000 years after Christ's second coming is the time when God's enemies are SUBDUED (1st Cor.15:24-26), the last of which is death. So those born in the Millennium must be tested which way they go. Naturally, the nations will be fed up with the rule of the rod of iron. There will be enough frustrated potential criminals to stock Magog's army. The primitive weapons used are a result of a thousand years of no weapons factories.

It would seem that God takes this rebellion very personally. Whereas Armageddon is fought by Jesus, Hamon-gog is fought by God Himself. Because of the climatic conditions, the fertility of the earth, and human living conditions, I judge that the population of the earth will explode exponentially. I expect that Gog's army will be much bigger than the Beast's.

Just thinking.

Shilohsfoal · September 28, 2022

1 hour ago, AdHoc said:

Yeah. Even the Roman Empire does not encompass the whole earth in territory. But maybe because it was religious, and had its emissaries mixing in every government, the Lord says it straddles the whole earth.

With Ezekiel 38 and half of 39 covering the Gog rebellion, there is quite a lot of information. I think that although certain nations take the lead in this rebellion, the actual army that forms will have soldiers from just about every nation.

What I see is that God made man to BOTH (i) subdue, and (ii) to rule (Gen.1:26-28). The 1,000 years after Christ's second coming is the time when God's enemies are SUBDUED (1st Cor.15:24-26), the last of which is death. So those born in the Millennium must be tested which way they go. Naturally, the nations will be fed up with the rule of the rod of iron. There will be enough frustrated potential criminals to stock Magog's army. The primitive weapons used are a result of a thousand years of no weapons factories.

It would seem that God takes this rebellion very personally. Whereas Armageddon is fought by Jesus, Hamon-gog is fought by God Himself. Because of the climatic conditions, the fertility of the earth, and human living conditions, I judge that the population of the earth will explode exponentially. I expect that Gog's army will be much bigger than the Beast's.

Just thinking.

I expect Magog army to be much larger also. The beast only involves the nations in the promised land, Iran to Egypt.

Im trying to determine how many nukes the US will use against them after they attack Israel and the US. I'm not sure how many it would take.