Catholics Vs. Protestants (I don't get it)

[OneLight]

5 minutes ago, NCAP said:

The Roman Church is led by the Holy Spirit.

No denomination is led by the Holy Spirit, people are. 

[NCAP]

3 hours ago, Dennis1209 said:

I'm referring to what they believe and teach. 

441 In the Old Testament, "son of God" is a title given to the angels, the Chosen People, the children of Israel, and their kings.⁴⁴ It signifies an adoptive sonship that establishes a relationship of particular intimacy between God and his creature. When the promised Messiah-King is called "son of God", it does not necessarily imply that he was more than human, according to the literal meaning of these texts. Those who called Jesus "son of God", as the Messiah of Israel, perhaps meant nothing more than this.⁴⁵

[Not of the World]

Well, in getting back to the topic, does anyone here believe that Catholics are automatically condemended to Hell and are there any Catholics here that believe that non-Catholics are automatically condemned to Hell?  

[Anne2]

4 hours ago, JohnR7 said:

Are we saved because we believe in the Catechism, or because we follow the teaching of the Catechism? 

Catholic means Universal Church. Catholic are a part of the Universal Church, but other Churches make that same claim. Mostly Anglican Churches. This is why so many Catholics go to Anglican or Episcopal Churches because they all share the same liturgy. Lutherans and Methodists also use a book of common prayer. Along with apostolic secession. John Wesley actually began the Holiness Movement that is common throughout many different churches. 

You are not a Catholic because you believe in the Catechism. You are a member of the Catholic (Universal) Church when you follow the teaching of the Catechism.  To take communion in the Catholic Church you have to profess or confess that you believe in the teachings of the church. 

I do not know of any Catholics that follow the teaching of the Catechism. Luke 11:28 tells us we have to "hear and obey". We have to actually do what the word of God says to do. We need to be holy and sanctified before God. We need to become as Christ was. He lived His life as an example for us to follow. 

Of course, there is the issue of Mary and protestants do not believe in her life long commitment to live a Holy Sanctified life before God. But it is faith in Jesus that saves us. Not faith in Mary. She is just an example of a Saint for us to follow in the way we choose to live our life. 

If you go to a Catholic book store you will find the teaching of Martin Luther. So today I do not think there is a conflict. At the time he was alive, there was discussion about his teachings. But they seem to be universally accepted now. Although we tend to go by the teachings of Billy Graham now. Catholic, Protestant & Anglican.  

What is very recent is the dialogue going on with the Helsinki consultation. A group all of Jew's. A book was recently published concerning where things stood as of now.

Jewish Church: A Catholic Approach to Messianic Judaism Paperback – August 24, 2022

by Antoine Lévy (Author)

 

Concerning the outcome at present concerning the above personally I find this dialogue hopeful concerning some reformer objections to Church teaching. Especially troublesome to myself is Mariology and the saints. All kinds of denominations are involved in this dialogue. Since the Orthodox Churches have differing concepts of Mariology than Rome, but are indeed also "Catholic" who knows what might develop from this. Perhaps some easing of these things can bring unity? That is my hope.

 

 

 

 

 

Edited October 15, 2022 by Anne2

[NCAP]

3 hours ago, Dennis1209 said:

I'm referring to what they believe and teach. 

A short summary of what the Catholic Church believes and teaches is contained in the Apostle's Creed, which too is found in the Catechism of the Catholic Church. In fact, about one-fourth of the Catechism is all about the Apostle's Creed.

[missmuffet]

51 minutes ago, NCAP said:

The Roman Church is led by the Holy Spirit.

No, it is not. Are you RCC?

[missmuffet]

22 minutes ago, Not of the World said:

Well, in getting back to the topic, does anyone here believe that Catholics are automatically condemended to Hell and are there any Catholics here that believe that non-Catholics are automatically condemned to Hell?  

Any person who truly believes that Jesus Christ is the Son of God will go to heaven. That is OSAS. What their judgment will be like I don't know. But God does. 

[Anne2]

26 minutes ago, Not of the World said:

Well, in getting back to the topic, does anyone here believe that Catholics are automatically condemended to Hell and are there any Catholics here that believe that non-Catholics are automatically condemned to Hell?  

As non Catholic (neither Roman nor Orthodox) No, I do not believe they are condemned.

Edited October 15, 2022 by Anne2

[NCAP]

2 minutes ago, missmuffet said:

No, it is not. Are you RCC?

Besides you, who said the RCC is not led by the Holy Spirit? And a church is composed of people.

[missmuffet]

1 minute ago, NCAP said:

Besides you, who said the RCC is not led by the Holy Spirit? And a church is composed of people.

You did not answer my question.