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If not, how did we get so many different races of people?  Did the offspring of Noah and his family "evolve" into entirely new races of people?  :noidea:


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On second thought, did God change everybody  to different races due to the Tower of Babel scandal?  

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3 hours ago, Not of the World said:

If not, how did we get so many different races of people?  Did the offspring of Noah and his family "evolve" into entirely new races of people?  :noidea:

Yes, they evolved - and scientists can now pinpoint certain genetic "events" that underlie our physical and physiological differences.

Now that fast global travel is with us and international and interracial marriage is getting more common, one would expect these differences to become less obvious (over many many generations).

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4 hours ago, Not of the World said:

If not, how did we get so many different races of people?  Did the offspring of Noah and his family "evolve" into entirely new races of people?  

I personally look to genetics rather than evolution. There are genetically dominant traits that become more prominent over time. Noah and his family definitely acted as a bottleneck and a point for divergence, but it's really something that happens over time with or without direct oversight. If you look into the various cat breeds some of the more modern ones were established after only 4 or so generations of breeding. The end result is a line with some very distinct traits to set them apart from others, but that's not really something we'd call evolution. Some of these cat breeds came about because of an initial mutation or a trait that emerged unintentionally. The same is applicable to humans.

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31 minutes ago, AnOrangeCat said:

I personally look to genetics rather than evolution. There are genetically dominant traits that become more prominent over time. Noah and his family definitely acted as a bottleneck and a point for divergence, but it's really something that happens over time with or without direct oversight. If you look into the various cat breeds some of the more modern ones were established after only 4 or so generations of breeding. The end result is a line with some very distinct traits to set them apart from others, but that's not really something we'd call evolution. Some of these cat breeds came about because of an initial mutation or a trait that emerged unintentionally. The same is applicable to humans.

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I agree with you plus I think " acclimation" is a contributing factor- even though an individuals genomes may restrict some acclimation it would still play a part imo when it comes to ,let's say environment

You brought up " cats" as an example which over time acclimate to their surroundings physically with each new generation ( thick coats,long hair,short hair,colors that serve as camouflage- I would not really call it evolution,some would. I think acclimation is God's Intervention!

 

 

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Genetic variation is a pre-programmed feature. There was only one kind of tomato in the wild, yet we have a lot of varieties today, but, they are all tomatoes. How many types of dogs are there, apparently all descended from wolf like ancestors. I would point out, that the differences there, are far greater than differences in race. A Chihuahua and a St. Bernard, are both dogs. Race is a human construct, we like to divide things into categories. To me, there is one race, called the human race, with all of us included in their genome.

Variety sometimes comes from mutations, like my blue eyes for example. As long has a mutation does not prevent survival, it can survive, and so we have blond haired, blue eyed people. Why do we think a different skin tone, is so much different than a different eye or hair color? Beats me! Maybe God just likes variety! Why do people cultivate so many kinds of flowers? I don't know, but I enjoy variety. Things that are identical clones, are sort of boring. Vive La di!fference

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Genetic variation is a pre-programmed feature. There was only one kind of tomato in the wild, yet we have a lot of varieties today, but, they are all tomatoes. How many types of dogs are there, apparently all descended from wolf like ancestors. I would point out, that the differences there, are far greater than differences in race. A Chihuahua and a St. Bernard, are both dogs. Race is a human construct, we like to divide things into categories. To me, there is one race, called the human race, with all of us included in their genome.

Variety sometimes comes from mutations, like my blue eyes for example. As long has a mutation does not prevent survival, it can survive, and so we have blond haired, blue eyed people. Why do we think a different skin tone, is so much different than a different eye or hair color? Beats me! Maybe God just likes variety! Why do people cultivate so many kinds of flowers? I don't know, but I enjoy variety. Things that are identical clones, are sort of boring. Vive La di!fference

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No message.  Sorry. 

Me too, I was looking forward to it, lol!


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What we call "races" in humans, we call "breeds" in domestic dogs.

From only a hand-full of domestic dog types that existed merely two (or-so) centuries ago, we have generated hundreds of very physically distinct dog breeds. This was accomplished starting with ancestors of high genetic diversity, then breeding out that variation (or diversity) in a particular lineage until we were left with low diversity, highly specialized "breeds".

Similarly, God created human ancestors with high genetic diversity. Due to migration and isolation from the rest of humanity (over time), certain physical (ergo 'genetic') characteristics were 'bred out' of populations which were isolated from each other. That is, aspects of genetic diversity were lost to populations as we separated from each other - because we then lacked the opportunity to breed with humans carrying different genetic traits. Furthermore, characteristics (which some now call 'racial' traits) were isolated in a said population; subsequently becoming unique to that population.

This is how the process of selection is observed to work - i.e. from ancestors with high diversity to more distinct groups, each with lower genetic diversity. Natural Selection in humans, and artificial selection in dogs; both by the same selective processes. No external diversity-generating mechanism is required to describe variety in humans given the Biblical framework.

 


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12 hours ago, Not of the World said:

If not, how did we get so many different races of people?  Did the offspring of Noah and his family "evolve" into entirely new races of people?  :noidea:

I believe in one human race with varying colors and ethnicities.  We are all just varying shades of brown.

Where did they come from?  From mutations [which are not always bad or harmful: i.e., blue eyes are a mutation] based on natural selection, genetics, and environmental living places.

More often than not, people who lived in places with more UV rays from the sun needed more melanin.  Ergo, there tended to be darker skin.  There are some exceptions.

Skin tone can change quickly - even in just one generation.

 

 

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