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Beasts' life is driven by libido and hunger. They fight and kill each other for territory, food and for mating. You cannot blame them because they know not what's good and what's bad. 

Isnt Creating human without knowledge of good and bad literally means the same as beasts' ? 

How can they know God is good ?

How can they know devil is bad ? 

Without knowing good and bad Its beyond imagination. When human were only two in number and food abundant it Will be ok. But what Will happen when they multiply into Millions of nudists ? There Will be fighting and killing for food, land and mating even cannibalism. Just like animals moved by hunger and libido. Thats what happened in history filled with wars as long as human lives. 

The tree that God cannot create is the tree of Wisdom. Where people who eat that fruit Will become wise and love others as much as they love their bellies (cliche). 

Because knowing good and bad only doesnt make this world peace, lovely, abundant and harmony. What's so worthy of this tree ?

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59 minutes ago, R. Hartono said:

Beasts' life is driven by libido and hunger. They fight and kill each other for territory, food and for mating. You cannot blame them because they know not what's good and what's bad. 

Isnt Creating human without knowledge of good and bad literally means the same as beasts' ? 

How can they know God is good ?

How can they know devil is bad ? 

Without knowing good and bad Its beyond imagination. When human were only two in number and food abundant it Will be ok. But what Will happen when they multiply into Millions of nudists ? There Will be fighting and killing for food, land and mating even cannibalism. Just like animals moved by hunger and libido. Thats what happened in history filled with wars as long as human lives. 

The tree that God cannot create is the tree of Wisdom. Where people who eat that fruit Will become wise and love others as much as they love their bellies (cliche). 

Because knowing good and bad only doesnt make this world peace, lovely, abundant and harmony. What's so worthy of this tree ?

Christ is the `tree of life, God`s wisdom.` Partake of Him and you will have wisdom and live forever.

`But of Him you are in Christ Jesus, who became for us WISDOM FROM GOD - and righteousness and sanctification and redemption - ` (1 Cor. 1: 30)


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I'm having a hard time understanding what you are saying. Is English a second or multiple language to your original language? (If so, I salute you, as I've never been able to learn another language beyond my original language.)

I think you are saying:

29 minutes ago, R. Hartono said:

Beasts' life is driven by libido and hunger. They fight and kill each other for territory, food and for mating. You cannot blame them because they know not what's good and what's bad. 

So, you believe that the reason for animal violence against other animals is normal and natural and to be expected?
Why, then, was it non-existent before the fall? (See

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Genesis 9:1-5 New American Standard Bible 1995

9 And God blessed Noah and his sons and said to them, “Be fruitful and multiply, and fill the earth. 2 The fear of you and the terror of you will be on every beast of the earth and on every bird of the sky; with everything that creeps on the ground, and all the fish of the sea, into your hand they are given. 3 Every moving thing that is alive shall be food for you; I give all to you, as I gave the green plant. 4 Only you shall not eat flesh with its life, that is, its blood. 5 Surely I will require your lifeblood; from every beast I will require it. And from every man, from every man’s brother I will require the life of man.

 

This passage regarding the end of the flood and Noah's exit from the ark onto dry land is found 6 chapters after the fall of Adam and Eve in the garden. And the world wide flood wherein God saved only Noah, his wife, his sons, and their wives, was a result of the extreme wickedness God found in humankind on the earth.

33 minutes ago, R. Hartono said:

Isnt Creating human without knowledge of good and bad literally means the same as beasts' ? 

God did not create human beings without knowledge of good and bad. God created human beings with knowledge of only good. Human's knowledge of bad was introduced by the serpent in the garden. (See Genesis 3:1-7 and beyond.)

36 minutes ago, R. Hartono said:

The tree that God cannot create is the tree of Wisdom. Where people who eat that fruit Will become wise and love others as much as they love their bellies (cliche). 

There is no tree that God cannot create, should He so will to do so. He created the tree of the knowledge of good and evil or that is what it is called in the 2nd chapter of Genesis. For all we know, it was simply a tree: but God told Adam quite clearly that he was not to eat of it, for in the day that he ate of it he would surely die.

Well, it's very convincing to me that God meant what He said since 10 out of 10 human beings die. It's the ultimate statistic.

Whether or not the tree had any special properties is up to Bible Scholars to debate. I am not a Bible Scholar. But I am familiar with the Bible.

The way I understand this is this: choosing to rebel against a direct command of God WAS the knowledge of evil. And when man sinned and ate from it, he knew evil for the first time, and was immediately so enslaved by it, that he hid from God. And in that day, man, woman and the earth (not to mention the serpent) were all cursed by God.

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I cannot find much that is Biblical in what you are saying. If I have misinterpreted your use of English, please do your best to clarify. Thank you!


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No because God wrote His ways on the heart. Those that have never heard of Christ know what is good and evil. 

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