Did God restore Israel in 1948?

[dad2]

8 hours ago, Keras said:

Actually, the change from a 360 day year to a 365.24 day year happened at the time of the Exodus. Which was, in our calendar: 1495.5 BC

At that time there was a close bypass of a large comet. Its gravitational pull, slowed down the earths orbit and caused the effects of the water supplies becoming undrinkable, the darkness, etc, and then the manna, [pure carbohydrate] to fall from space. 

Not sure if this is supposed to be a joke.

8 hours ago, Keras said:

When the Lord sends His fiery wrath on the terrible Day of the Lord's vengeance and wrath, then the earth will shudder and shake, it will be moved from its place. Isaiah 13:13     This strike of a huge mass of superheated hydrogen plasma on the earth, will speed up our orbit back to a 360 day year.  Proved by how; the 3 different times given in Revelation - 1269 days, 42 months and 3 1/2 years, will then exactly match. 

Funny how such wild speculation is offered as fact.

 

You seem to be claiming that angels eat comet debris (sounds tasteless), and that manna fell all over the planet. Additionally you claim that history somehow missed this event, not to mention the cataclysmic change in earth orbit.

[Keras]

2 hours ago, dad2 said:

Not sure if this is supposed to be a joke.

Unfortunately, it is no joke that good, educated people are clueless about ancient history and have no understanding of what God has planned for our future. 

3 hours ago, dad2 said:

Funny how such wild speculation is offered as fact.

I quoted the Bible verse which says the earth will be moved. On the forthcoming Day of the Lord's fiery wrath. As over 100 Bible Prophesies describe. 

The Bible Prophets give us facts before they happen. The inability to comprehend them, is because of beliefs in false theories. Isaiah 29:9-12

There are records of other peoples eating the white flaky substance that fell from the sky during the Israelites Exodus.  It was carbohydrate; Carbon, Hydrogen and Oxygen, a basic item of our diet. 

[dad2]

2 hours ago, Keras said:

Unfortunately, it is no joke that good, educated people are clueless about ancient history and have no understanding of what God has planned for our future. 

I quoted the Bible verse which says the earth will be moved. On the forthcoming Day of the Lord's fiery wrath. As over 100 Bible Prophesies describe. 

The Bible Prophets give us facts before they happen. The inability to comprehend them, is because of beliefs in false theories. Isaiah 29:9-12

There are records of other peoples eating the white flaky substance that fell from the sky during the Israelites Exodus.  It was carbohydrate; Carbon, Hydrogen and Oxygen, a basic item of our diet. 

So God gave much of the world angel food? A verse about the earth moving or not being moved says nothing of the specific cosmic event you describe. On the issue of 360 day years, yes that was the case in Noah's day. When it changed we don't know.

[Keras]

12 hours ago, dad2 said:

So God gave much of the world angel food? A verse about the earth moving or not being moved says nothing of the specific cosmic event you describe. On the issue of 360 day years, yes that was the case in Noah's day. When it changed we don't know.

The records, written and oral of other people groups around the world confirm that manna was what they survived on during the several years of worldwide disturbance and darkness.  Also the date it happened. The Comet Typhon, depicted in many rock art drawings and in traditional stories of that terrible disaster. 

These are facts, why do you reject them? 

But I am not saying that a comet will again shift the earth. What the Prophets tell us, is that this time there will be a huge mas ejected from the sun, that will strike the earth a glancing blow. Isaiah 30:26a

[dad2]

6 hours ago, Keras said:

The records, written and oral of other people groups around the world confirm that manna was what they survived on during the several years of worldwide disturbance and darkness.  Also the date it happened. The Comet Typhon, depicted in many rock art drawings and in traditional stories of that terrible disaster. 

These are facts, why do you reject them? 

Rock drawings show mankind eating manna? Seriously?

6 hours ago, Keras said:

But I am not saying that a comet will again shift the earth. What the Prophets tell us, is that this time there will be a huge mas ejected from the sun, that will strike the earth a glancing blow. Isaiah 30:26a

Part of God's judgments will be that it is hotter. That doesn't mean you can read into that whatever cosmic dreams you pick. How God will do it we don't know.

[Keras]

3 hours ago, dad2 said:

Rock drawings show mankind eating manna? Seriously?

Part of God's judgments will be that it is hotter. That doesn't mean you can read into that whatever cosmic dreams you pick. How God will do it we don't know.

Rock drawings show a comet and many oral stories tell of the hardships they experienced. Google: Comet Typhon. 

The Bile prophets tell us clearly what the Lord will use and the effects of it.  You choose to remain in the dark about it. 

[dad2]

54 minutes ago, Keras said:

Rock drawings show a comet and many oral stories tell of the hardships they experienced. Google: Comet Typhon. 

The first thing I found was a site about a Greek legend. Got a real link?

54 minutes ago, Keras said:

The Bile prophets tell us clearly what the Lord will use and the effects of it.  You choose to remain in the dark about it. 

The bible does not mention a Greek legend comet that does what you think. Try to learn the difference between fantasy and reality. Truth and fiction. Sci fi and history. Etc

[iamlamad]

On 12/26/2022 at 12:17 PM, dad2 said:

Many preachers suggest that He did, and that prophesy about God bringing them back to that land was fulfilled. The desert will blossom like a rose etc. Every place in Scripture that I have seen so far is talking about after Jesus returns and all (the remnant) Israel is saved. Not 1948

 Yes Israel needs to be there for endtime prophesies to be fulfilled but that does not mean God restored them and brought them there. It means He knew they would be there. Perhaps someone who shares the ideas of preachers like Jack Hibbs, Amir Tsarfati, Jan Markell etc etc could make a case.

I have never found another "Israel" on any map. Another Israel does not exist. There is only one Jerusalem inside a nation of Israel. Therefore I believe that Ezekiel 37 was fulfilled in 1948 and is continuing to be fulfilled and more Hebrews find their way to Israel.

[dad2]

49 minutes ago, iamlamad said:

I have never found another "Israel" on any map. Another Israel does not exist. There is only one Jerusalem inside a nation of Israel. Therefore I believe that Ezekiel 37 was fulfilled in 1948 and is continuing to be fulfilled and more Hebrews find their way to Israel.

Ezekiel 37:12

 

Therefore prophesy and say unto them, Thus saith the Lord God ; Behold, O my people, I will open your graves, and cause you to come up out of your graves, and bring you into the land of Israel.

 

You thought that already happened?

 

or this?

 

Ezekiel 37:14

 

And shall put my spirit in you, and ye shall live, and I shall place you in your own land: then shall ye know that I the Lord have spoken it, and performed it, saith the Lord

 

Absolutely not, of course.

[Keras]

4 hours ago, dad2 said:

The first thing I found was a site about a Greek legend. Got a real link?

The bible does not mention a Greek legend comet that does what you think. Try to learn the difference between fantasy and reality. Truth and fiction. Sci fi and history. Etc

Legends are most often based on facts. 

Of course, if the facts conflicted with the mainstream historical beliefs, then something like Comet Typhon, would be dismissed as a myth and just the vivid imaginations of ancient peoples. 

The Bible gives quite a lot of info about what happened when Moses tried to get Pharoah to release the Israelites. Things that science cannot explain, but a close encounter with a large cosmic body: can and did cause.    That you refuse to even consider the truth of this, is exactly what the Bible and God rejectors do.