Mr. M Posted January 29, 2023 Group: Royal Member Followers: 8 Topic Count: 743 Topics Per Day: 1.32 Content Count: 3,893 Content Per Day: 6.94 Reputation: 1,798 Days Won: 12 Joined: 10/28/2022 Status: Offline Birthday: 02/18/1956 Share Posted January 29, 2023 19 minutes ago, Selah7 said: But we do need to devote time and attention to studying the Word of God with the help of the Holy Spirit. Our Father wants us to be knowledgeable regarding His Word. Theology IS an academic discipline. Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth. - 2 Timothy 2:15 (KJV) Less study, more receiving from above. If you are in prayerful contemplation of scripture, it becomes Truth only when you receive wisdom from above. Not when you get an A on a school paper. You can enroll in school, take a class, or you can follow the directives of James, and the Lord, and ask. You must be born from above to receive from above, at which time you need no theological teaching, you have an Anointing which is Christ. See 1 John 2:27 You must remember that the Paul who stated your quote, also said that his lifetime of education was dung without the knowledge of Christ. I believe this is the basis of his election. He had a vast knowledge, in Christ, he received wisdom, which gave him sound understanding. Proverbs 4:7 Get wisdom first, then you can get an understanding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. M Posted January 29, 2023 Group: Royal Member Followers: 8 Topic Count: 743 Topics Per Day: 1.32 Content Count: 3,893 Content Per Day: 6.94 Reputation: 1,798 Days Won: 12 Joined: 10/28/2022 Status: Offline Birthday: 02/18/1956 Share Posted January 29, 2023 (edited) 38 minutes ago, Jaydub said: You make it sound like the son is not eternal, but we know in John chapter 1, that all things were created through Jesus nothing that was created was created without him, making him eternal because he couldnt have created himself I understand your point. The Son is in fact eternal, he is the door from creation, which he participated in, to manifestation, by taking the form of "the Light of Life". John 1:18 No one has seen God at any time. The only begotten Son, who is in the bosom of the Father, He has declared Him. Edited January 29, 2023 by Mr. M Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. M Posted January 29, 2023 Group: Royal Member Followers: 8 Topic Count: 743 Topics Per Day: 1.32 Content Count: 3,893 Content Per Day: 6.94 Reputation: 1,798 Days Won: 12 Joined: 10/28/2022 Status: Offline Birthday: 02/18/1956 Share Posted January 29, 2023 1 hour ago, ayin jade said: I am a bit confused on your meaning here. Are you saying Jesus is not part of the Godhead, not part of the Trinity of God? Do you believe He is a created being? I just reviewed my post and noted the ambiguity. Thanks for pointing this out. I feel I have cleared things in the follow-up, so I am not going to go back and amend the statement. Hopefully, the elaboration will actually help with the comprehension, in stages. Great point, James 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. M Posted January 29, 2023 Group: Royal Member Followers: 8 Topic Count: 743 Topics Per Day: 1.32 Content Count: 3,893 Content Per Day: 6.94 Reputation: 1,798 Days Won: 12 Joined: 10/28/2022 Status: Offline Birthday: 02/18/1956 Share Posted January 29, 2023 47 minutes ago, Jaydub said: Yahweh the Father Yahweh the Son Yahweh the Holy Spirit or the trinity YHVH is the covenant name the Lord gave to Moses, for the chosen people to call upon in the Memorial and Remembrance of the Torah. Exodus, 6:3 I appeared to Abraham, to Isaac, and to Jacob, as God Almighty, but by My name YHVH I was not known to them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwikphilly Posted January 29, 2023 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 96 Topic Count: 307 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 18,143 Content Per Day: 4.61 Reputation: 27,834 Days Won: 327 Joined: 08/03/2013 Status: Offline Share Posted January 29, 2023 10 minutes ago, Mr. M said: Less study, more receiving from above. If you are in prayerful contemplation of scripture, it becomes Truth only when you receive wisdom from above. Not when you get an A on a school paper. You can enroll in school, take a class, or you can follow the directives of James, and the Lord, and ask. You must be born from above to receive from above, at which time you need no theological teaching, you have an Anointing which is Christ. See 1 John 2:27 You must remember that the Paul who stated your quote, also said that his lifetime of education was dung without the knowledge of Christ. I believe this is the basis of his election. He had a vast knowledge, in Christ, he received wisdom, which gave him sound understanding. Proverbs 4:7 Get wisdom first, then you can get an understanding. Exactly- that's the " studying" we must take seriously .. As we Meditate Upon the Written Word of God,seeking HIM with all of our heart,soul & mind - He Reveals - Jesus IS the Way,the Truth &;the Life I must say,I have sat reading my Bibles and have walked away saying"what did I just read?" And not boasting I am an educated woman..... For years I " studied" with my carnal mind,ha- Ah but when I became like a child & humbled myself something changed.... By letting go( oh that spirit of pride)I would sometimes look up at the clock and found I was reading 4 & 5 hrs... . I had accessed the Mind of Christ just by letting go & asking His Truth - the Counselor also Reminded me of everything I fed my spirit with & did not understand with a carnal mind..... I'm rambling,sorry.... " studying" is Feeding the spirit,I hunger and thirst for God's Word,for Jesus! In His Love,Kwik 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. M Posted January 29, 2023 Group: Royal Member Followers: 8 Topic Count: 743 Topics Per Day: 1.32 Content Count: 3,893 Content Per Day: 6.94 Reputation: 1,798 Days Won: 12 Joined: 10/28/2022 Status: Offline Birthday: 02/18/1956 Share Posted January 29, 2023 1 minute ago, kwikphilly said: I'm rambling,sorry.. No, you are spot on. Give yourself a biscuit. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. M Posted January 29, 2023 Group: Royal Member Followers: 8 Topic Count: 743 Topics Per Day: 1.32 Content Count: 3,893 Content Per Day: 6.94 Reputation: 1,798 Days Won: 12 Joined: 10/28/2022 Status: Offline Birthday: 02/18/1956 Share Posted January 29, 2023 (edited) 58 minutes ago, Selah7 said: But we do need to devote time and attention to studying the Word of God with the help of the Holy Spirit. Our Father wants us to be knowledgeable regarding His Word. Theology IS an academic discipline. Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth. - 2 Timothy 2:15 (KJV) I just saw your ? on my first post. sister jade pointed out the ambiguity, and I have posted, elaborating statements that follow. Please continue on, and I apologize. Maybe I should go back and amend the original. Blessings. Edited January 29, 2023 by Mr. M 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. M Posted January 29, 2023 Group: Royal Member Followers: 8 Topic Count: 743 Topics Per Day: 1.32 Content Count: 3,893 Content Per Day: 6.94 Reputation: 1,798 Days Won: 12 Joined: 10/28/2022 Status: Offline Birthday: 02/18/1956 Share Posted January 29, 2023 1 hour ago, ayin jade said: I am a bit confused on your meaning here. Are you saying Jesus is not part of the Godhead, not part of the Trinity of God? Do you believe He is a created being? No, thank you! Thank me? Oh no, I insist, thank you! But surely I should be the one thanking you. My friend, I am certain that in this instance, it is I who should be thanking you. (Old cartoon reference. I believe they were chipmunks maybe. LOL) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
other one Posted January 29, 2023 Group: Worthy Ministers Followers: 29 Topic Count: 599 Topics Per Day: 0.08 Content Count: 56,250 Content Per Day: 7.56 Reputation: 27,981 Days Won: 271 Joined: 12/29/2003 Status: Offline Share Posted January 29, 2023 1 hour ago, Jaydub said: If I may give you my thought here, I don't believe to say Jesus and Yahweh is actually correct. It was not the Father who wrestled with Jacob. It was not the father who walked with Abraham. It was not the Father who spoke to Gideon. These were Christophanies. John 6:46 No one has seen the Father except the one who is from God; only he has seen the Father. Because of this, we know it was not the father but the Son who appeared in the old testament I am that I am refers to his eternal existence. Jesus used the term for himself when he said before Abraham was I am When we see YHWH, Yahweh in scriptures we now know that it is the name of God almighty. The Father, Son and Holy Spirit Yahweh the Father Yahweh the Son Yahweh the Holy Spirit or the trinity You make it sound like the son is not eternal, but we know in John chapter 1, that all things were created through Jesus nothing that was created was created without him, making him eternal because he couldnt have created himself Jesus was part of the Godhead before he set all that aside and became flesh. You are right he is the part of the Trinity from before creation. But I don't see it as calling the Father Yahweh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaydub Posted January 29, 2023 Group: Advanced Member Followers: 3 Topic Count: 7 Topics Per Day: 0.01 Content Count: 184 Content Per Day: 0.14 Reputation: 136 Days Won: 0 Joined: 08/23/2020 Status: Offline Share Posted January 29, 2023 2 minutes ago, other one said: Jesus was part of the Godhead before he set all that aside and became flesh. You are right he is the part of the Trinity from before creation. But I don't see it as calling the Father Yahweh what I meant was in my opinion, now we know the God of the old testament is a triune God so to say Jesus and Yahweh is like saying, Jesus and the trinity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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