Mark of beast beheadings

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5 minutes ago, Selah7 said:

….continued from above 

There are two “beasts” that are mentioned in Revelation 13.  The first beast is written about in verse 1.  In Revelation 13:11-13, we read about the second beast:

Then I stood on the sand of the sea. And I saw a beast rising up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and on his horns ten crowns, and on his heads a blasphemous name.

- Revelation 13:1 

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Then I saw another beast coming up out of the earth, and he had two horns like a lamb and spoke like a dragon. And he exercises all the authority of the first beast in his presence, and causes the earth and those who dwell in it to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed. He performs great signs, so that he even makes fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men.

- Revelation 13:11-13

*The first beast mentioned in Ch. 13 is a one-world system. The second beast mentioned is the AC.

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This one person will have all this power in the final 7 years  and the United States and the United Nations allow this to happen. Thats going to be a rather great change in the current world powers.

[tatwo]

22 hours ago, Montana Marv said:

Rev 9:20 - The rest of mankind who were not killed by these plagues still did not repent...  Rev 16:8 - .. but they refused to repent and glorify him. v. 11 - and they refused to repent.

My question is..."Where does it say that none are never allowed to repent? This in reference to those with the MOTB.

You response in quotes from Revelation at face value...in no way answers my question...but rather supports the idea...that...they were literally given an opportunity to repent...Marv...but chose not to.

Two different perspectives.

Tatwo...:)

[Selah7]

2 minutes ago, tatwo said:

My question is..."Where does it say that none are never allowed to repent? This in reference to those with the MOTB.

You response in quotes from Revelation at face value...in no way answers my question...but rather supports the idea...that...they were literally given an opportunity to repent...Marv...but chose not to.

Two different perspectives.

Tatwo...:)

Yeah, and our job is to not be deceived.  

And Jesus, answering them, began to say: "Take heed that no one deceives you. "For many will come in My name, saying, 'I am He,' and will deceive many.

- Mark 13:5-6

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[tatwo]

22 hours ago, Montana Marv said:

The Harpozo/Rapture has not happened as yet,  We can all buy and sell freely.

You say..."We can all buy and sell freely." Really? Who do you refer to as "we" Marv...?

Just over the last year or so alone...the numbers of people in all the nations of the earth who cannot "buy or sell freely"  has grown nearly at the same pace as those who are starving to death Marv...

The "American" Jesus is a counterfeit people.

Tatwo...:) 

[tatwo]

22 hours ago, Montana Marv said:

Sorry to inform you, I am a Believer in Jesus Christ who was crucified, buried, and arose again on the 3rd day and ascended into Heaven, and have received the Holy Spirit.  Just waiting for the Harpozo, if it happens in my lifetime.  If I die beforehand, so be it.  I am secure, are you.  Do you need to jump through anymore hoops to be counted as Worthy.

If so...that would be very good for you Marv...no need to apologize in false humility.

Wait on guy...the Lord Yahshua is trying to call you and many...out of that malaise right now...shake off the mark while there is time...oh wait...it has been said by those "who don't have it"...that those who have it can never get rid of it...yuck!

Not to be counted as worthy...Marv...I am in Christ who is worthy...however...to grow up into the full measure or full stature of of the Lord Himself as Paul instructs...there are going to be opportunities to overcome [bring glory to God] a plenty...while ruling in the earth from the throne of God...my hope is to become as pure as the Gold belt upon the Master Himself...while you wait...Marv...

Tatwo...:)

[Montana Marv]

49 minutes ago, tatwo said:

I...however...understand...that the throne of God...a symbol of His power and authority as well as the "seat" of High priest...making this throne of God the throne of the "Royal Priesthood." This throne is presently located in the "temple of God" which is...on the earth and in heaven simultaneously...now...and since Pentecost continuing until the end of Gods present creation.

This is an interesting view.  My take is that God is in the Third Heaven on His Throne, and Christ at His right hand.  This same God (Father) does not come to this earth until the New Jerusalem comes down, and then the God (Father) in Heaven can now dwell with men (Rev 21:3).  My take is that the Throne is in Heaven, Satan must go there to accuse the Brethren in Christ Jesus.  The Temple (a holy place) is also in Heaven; but were are also considered as a temple of God because of the indwelling of the Holy Spirit.  And this is correct as you say since Pentecost..

1 hour ago, tatwo said:

Now as such...for those of us who understand things like Daniels "man clothed in linen, which was upon the waters of the river" and Ezekiel's "wheel in the middle of a wheel" and John's "four living creatures"...which as I have experienced makes no sense to most...we...us...those upon the throne of God are the very ones delivering the judgement of God upon the earth...from the earth...as the birth pangs increase up to the the end of the age.

We are on the Throne of God, it is for the God Head Only,  for Satan's wish is be seated on it.  The thing is, is that the 24 Elders in Heaven cast their crowns before the Throne of God, and He who sits on it.  No other ones are seen in Heaven sitting in the Throne in Heaven, but the Father and the Son.

1 hour ago, tatwo said:

The end will be glorious for the Son of God...on earth and in heaven...this is when the Lord of all creation will tear the "veil" between the invisible heavens and the visible earth to reveal His eternal reality which has always been right here...just "veiled"...to all of carnal creation...

The thing is that the Son (Jesus Christ) will rule on King Davids Throne forever.  This is an Earthly Throne.  Throughout the 1000 years, and during the Eternal state of the New Jerusalem here on earth.  Yes the veil will have been torn.

In Christ

Montana Marv

[Montana Marv]

44 minutes ago, tatwo said:

If so...that would be very good for you Marv...no need to apologize in false humility.

Wait on guy...the Lord Yahshua is trying to call you and many...out of that malaise right now...shake off the mark while there is time...oh wait...it has been said by those "who don't have it"...that those who have it can never get rid of it...yuck!

Not to be counted as worthy...Marv...I am in Christ who is worthy...however...to grow up into the full measure or full stature of of the Lord Himself as Paul instructs...there are going to be opportunities to overcome [bring glory to God] a plenty...while ruling in the earth from the throne of God...my hope is to become as pure as the Gold belt upon the Master Himself...while you wait...Marv...

Tatwo...:)

Rev 14:9 - If anyone worships the beast and his image and receives his mark on the forehead or on the hand; he to will drink of the wine of God's fury, which has been poured full strength into the cup of his wrath.  And the smoke of their torment rises for ever and ever.  There is no rest day or night for those who worship the beast and his image, or for anyone who received the Mark of his name.

And yes we are already counted as Worthy (with the Indwelling of the Holy Spirit), we do not know if there will be opportunities beyond today. We cannot say we must go through future tests or trials and endure to the end {the end of what}, because one may get smacked by a bus tomorrow.

We will be pure, because we are the Bride of Christ; "Without spot or Wrinkle".

In Christ

Montana Marv

[tatwo]

19 minutes ago, Selah7 said:

Yeah, and our job is to not be deceived.

This is true Selah7...in deed...consider this Sister...was the Lord Yahshua ever going to be deceived? No...though Satan gave it a go...ok...I doubt that Yahshua Himself was ever worried about being deceived...ever think about that Sister? He is the dispenser of Truth...the anthesis of deception.

So...if I am right in this...and "He" was not focused upon "not being deceived"...what was He focused upon?

Doing only what His Father was doing and revealing the Word of God to darkness...all without fear of anything...including deception...all the while knowing He was going to be scourged and crucified...right?

He is Truth...in Him there is no lie...where are you Selah7...in Him...today?

Not knowing you...but reading you...I would say that you are "in Christ." As such...you are a part of Him...part of His Body here on earth...of which He is the head...making you a "Son of God" and thereby a bright beacon of eternal Truth...in which there is no deception...just consider it Sister.

One more deepish thought Selah7...the dichotomy that is presenting itself here...is this. There are two groups here in this forum...and on the earth...may seem like more...but it is only 2.

This first group a much much larger group at that...these do not see the emergence of the preeminent "Son of God"...the "corpus Christi"...on the earth...completely underwritten by the throne of God itself...in judgment of darkness...bringing forth the end of this age...according to the will of God...which is what the Son of God always does...right?

As such...they interpret the bible and scripture from their own carnal mind...the mind of man in other words...which receives its inspiration from the serpent from Garden of Eden...where we first saw it in action...twisted...deceived...the Lord dealt directly with it continuously...in Israel and finally condemned them for it.

However...it is not any one of the specific doctrines they espouse in any form or context that condemns them...no...it is the spirit they espouse...that has completely deceived them Selah7...these are under the delusion of a false Christ...she is attractive...her appeal is to the flesh of man...she makes him feel "good...comfortable...safe"...tells them they are rightful heirs to the throne of God...which sadly they know nothing about...we are told that she is a murderer...thief...deceiver and whore...no good will come from her.

The second group are the Son's of God...they are the Truth...they are being raised up in the house of the Father of our Lord Yahshua...they are "maturing" in the earth today...becoming the express image of God in Christ...as we speak Sister.

With some revelation from the Holy Spirit...a Son of God can understand that things in the end are proceeding according to the plan of God...from before creation...because they are involved in directing it.

They actually are indwelt with Holy Spirit of the living God...making them His Sons...He is the comforter...helper...councilor the Spirit of Truth...it is him Selah7 who is revealing "what is to come"...to the Sons of God...but not to anyone else.

The Sons of God are explaining what the Lord is doing...exactly as the Lord said they would...but the first group cannot "see" Him or "hear" Him...exactly as the Lord said they would not...the false Christ they worship and have been seduced by is too strong for most...that's why the Lord said..."do not be deceived."

He is patently pointing out the existence and character of those in the first group as being real...if one believes their "word" they will be deceived...I am merely pointing that out here. The apostacy is on Sister!

Tatwo...:)

[tatwo]

57 minutes ago, Montana Marv said:

And yes we are already counted as Worthy (with the Indwelling of the Holy Spirit), we do not know if there will be opportunities beyond today. We cannot say we must go through future tests or trials and endure to the end {the end of what}, because one may get smacked by a bus tomorrow.

Agreed then...nice...and I agree that there are many "who do not know if there will be opportunities beyond today"...Let me ask you this Marv...Do you think the Lord...in His sojourn on the earth in the days of His flesh...was aware of opportunities...beyond His "today?" 

Marv...it really does not matter who said...says what...in this instance...it was the Lord who said "we must go through future tests and endure to the end." And...as such I fully expect that very reality to play out in my life on this earth each and every day...exactly like it has...for well over 30 years now.

A different perspective...

Tatwo...:)

[Montana Marv]

1 hour ago, tatwo said:

Agreed then...nice...and I agree that there are many "who do not know if there will be opportunities beyond today"...Let me ask you this Marv...Do you think the Lord...in His sojourn on the earth in the days of His flesh...was aware of opportunities...beyond His "today?" 

Marv...it really does not matter who said...says what...in this instance...it was the Lord who said "we must go through future tests and endure to the end." And...as such I fully expect that very reality to play out in my life on this earth each and every day...exactly like it has...for well over 30 years now.

A different perspective...

Tatwo...:)

1.  He new Peter would deny him 3 times.  He knew that He must suffer on the Cross, He knew he would rise on the Third Day.  he knew he could raise Lazarus from the dead.  The only thing He does not know of is the timing of when the Bridegroom will come.  And those are his words.

2.  What end?  90 percent or more of the Body of Christ has already achieved and endured to their End.  Our Salvation is being worked out or renewed daily, meaning the H.S. is conforming us day by day to become more Christ Like. Ongoing until our demise. 

It is just the Fortune Tellers giving us advice on how they will make it through an event maybe 5 to 7 years from now, to endure it.  When they do not know what tomorrow will bring.

In Christ

Montana Marv