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23 minutes ago, BibleWords said:

You didn’t have to show your mark in your right hand or forehead at the grocery store or gas station the last time you went did you?

You would if the mark was here.

Here is where things get interesting...I can see your opinion clearly...and of course you are adamantly sure of your answer...and I am sure there is nothing I could say to change your opinion...however I do see it much differently than you BibleWords...does that mean I am incorrect? In your view it probably would...I understand that...and I am fine with that.

Do you have a record of the Lord Yahshua spending money for His personal needs in His day? Speaking in a relative way...can you show me where He purchased necessities in the way you suggested...I might in your question to me here?

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On 4/27/2023 at 5:27 PM, bloom said:

Spirits that go out into the earth are depicted as horses in Zechariah 6. I believe the horses of Revelation represent spirits also, the 1st religion, the 2nd governmental, the 3rd, judicial and the 4th commerce. All good to begin with but eventually corrupted by the prince of this world who rides them all at the same time. The last  chloros colored horse will be the ruin of the world before the end. Did you know dollars used to be colored with actual chlorophyll. 31.7 trillion in debt is a disaster waiting to happen. A little different interpretation I know, just my opinion. 

Greetings Bloom,

You provide an interesting perspective here...I agree with your view of the 4 horses...spirits....it is general...but it fits and adds some defining clarity to the understanding of those horses. Getting worse over time is good I always thought of it as them gaining strength over time...same thing.

I never realized the while deal with the "chloros" at all...I am sure there is a connection...and the debt is a disaster waiting to happen...and I think it is happening honestly.

May I ask how you see the debt disaster playing out?

Tatwo...:) 


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7 hours ago, tatwo said:

Greetings Bloom,

You provide an interesting perspective here...I agree with your view of the 4 horses...spirits....it is general...but it fits and adds some defining clarity to the understanding of those horses. Getting worse over time is good I always thought of it as them gaining strength over time...same thing.

I never realized the while deal with the "chloros" at all...I am sure there is a connection...and the debt is a disaster waiting to happen...and I think it is happening honestly.

May I ask how you see the debt disaster playing out?

Tatwo...:) 

In a war that no one wins except a new world order. The birth pains are intensifying . The bat flu was a created crisis for a consolidation of power. The debt sustained during the plandemic is floating the government for a time but  will be paid for. Have you been to the grocery store lately?  The petro-dollar is no more, the Ukraine war hurts the whole world and is good excuse to add more debt and maybe start WW3. And China [the NWO model on how to treat your citizens] lurking around Taiwan ready to pounce. The religious leaders, the U.N., and the guys in the black robes with the scales of justice will approve of the transition. Have you seen the UNICOIN yet?  


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2 hours ago, bloom said:

In a war that no one wins except a new world order. The birth pains are intensifying . The bat flu was a created crisis for a consolidation of power. The debt sustained during the plandemic is floating the government for a time but  will be paid for. Have you been to the grocery store lately?  The petro-dollar is no more, the Ukraine war hurts the whole world and is good excuse to add more debt and maybe start WW3. And China [the NWO model on how to treat your citizens] lurking around Taiwan ready to pounce. The religious leaders, the U.N., and the guys in the black robes with the scales of justice will approve of the transition. Have you seen the UNICOIN yet?  

I have seen the "unicoin" bloom...is there any tribulation yet?

Tatwo...:)


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As usual, I am tardy for the conversation and do not have time to read the entire thread. In short, I believe your question is historical and future, by the word “AND.”

First, let us start with Bible translations and the Greek. The KJV states this mark is IN the forehead or right hand. Other translations say ON; your translation says UPON. It makes a massive difference if we are talking about something the size of a basketball or a grain of rice. Which is it, in, on, or upon?

Regardless, be it visible or not, it is a confirmation and eternal damnation to those who receive it—an unpardonable and unforgivable sin.

I also read advanced technology into this employing the mark and image.

Historically, many Christians have been slaughtered for the witness of Jesus Christ, most likely in the millions. What did the RCC do to born-again believers during the crusades, inquisitions, and dark ages for rejecting Catholicism doctrine? They were tortured and beheaded.

How many Christians and infidels have been beheaded through the centuries and at present by Islam? There will be many more beheadings to come. I suspect these souls under the altar beheaded for their faith might be historical because they are told to wait until their brethren are beheaded in the future (Tribulation saints).

Four things stand out to me about this MOB and its location.

·         A choice of where this mark is attached or implanted.

·         The visibility and ease of access to the mark.

·         The two body parts have the most significant temperature differential (Delta T). All energy is mutually convertible, and I have thoughts of micro voltage powering or charging something technological.

·     It is implemented globally quickly, much like the initial Covid vaccination. It seems people are butting lines to get this mark, and this mark must have some benefit the globe is clambering for.

Today we are at the cutting edge of nanotechnology, using bots and computers to monitor the onset of heart attacks, blood clots, strokes, and diseases. This current technology is scheduled to intervene and prevent it medically. In other words, life extension through better health.

Who would not be breaking down the doors to receive such a miracle? Save those who are not deceived, the very elect.

These are just some far-fetched thoughts.


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On 4/27/2023 at 10:20 AM, BibleWords said:

We buy and sell today without any such restrictions.

Whose we?

There are currently a few places in the world today...BibleWords...that actually do require a "mark" to buy and sell...just not "your version" of the mark...and it literally is to buy and sell...in the beast system...which is very much restricted...exactly as the bible says.

Additionally this "mark to buy and sell" is increasing around the world right now...and now there is a global currency in the mix that is going into place as you read this.

Are you..."BibleWords" thinking that the world will go from not having the MOTB to having the MOTB over night?

Tatwo...:)

 


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12 minutes ago, Dennis1209 said:

  A choice of where this mark is attached or implanted.

A thought about this as I ponder your words:

When I go to my doctor for my checkups he (his nure) clamps a little thing on my finger that measures the oxygen level in my blood and uses a handheld sensor on my forehead to measure my temperature.

Now both my oxygen level and temperature are present throughout my body a special reader is used that only measures them at my hand and my forehead.

So maybe that mark will also be something that is present throughout my body but is only read by a reader designed to be used on the hand or forehead?

Just a thought, not a prediction.


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2 minutes ago, tatwo said:

Additionally this "mark to buy and sell" is increasing around the world right now...and now there is a global currency in the mix that is going into place as you read this.

I think that global currency will be brought about and accepted as a solution to a (deliberately generated) worldwide financial crisis resulting from monetary failure of currencies we currently rely on to provide stability to the world banking and monetary exchange systems.


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On 4/27/2023 at 10:20 AM, BibleWords said:

The mark of the beast and unbelieving people today are not even in the same environment.

Really? Must be real nice in your "western world" life...BibleWords...

Tatwo...:)


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1 hour ago, FJK said:

A thought about this as I ponder your words:

When I go to my doctor for my checkups he (his nure) clamps a little thing on my finger that measures the oxygen level in my blood and uses a handheld sensor on my forehead to measure my temperature.

Now both my oxygen level and temperature are present throughout my body a special reader is used that only measures them at my hand and my forehead.

So maybe that mark will also be something that is present throughout my body but is only read by a reader designed to be used on the hand or forehead?

Just a thought, not a prediction.

That is the direction things are heading. Notice the switch at Walmart, Kroeger, and other places. They are getting rid of people checking you out and forcing self-checkout.

Next step, think of the cost savings, convenience, and efficiency of bypassing any checkout. Walk out the door, and the doors have scanners like a metal detector with your purchases automatically scanned via RFID chip and debited from your account identifier always on your person. It is coming!

Get into a bad auto crash going home and are not conscience. The EMT and hospital can access your name, address, personal information, medical records, and insurance information via an RFID chip. Alice might say to Toto that they are not for cats and dogs anymore.

Some companies made it a condition of employment that their employees get chipped for access and security reasons. Thus far, SCOTUS has mandated companies to offer an alternate method. We know that decision will be changed.

The Jetsons and Dick Tracey wristwatch technology are now sorely outdated. 😊

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