Where Is The Fruit?

[Mr. M]

16 minutes ago, Sower said:

a corn of wheat fall into the ground and die,

it abides alone: but if it die, it brings forth much fruit.

loves his life shall lose it;

hates his life in this world shall keep it unto life eternal.

follow me; (abide)and where I am,

also my servant be:

follow me; and where I am (abide)

serve me

him will my Father honor.

"By this my Father is glorified, that you bear much fruit"

Cool, huh..........

 

 

My favorite "abide" verse.

1 John 2:24 Therefore let that abide in you which you heard from the beginning. If what you heard from the beginning abides in you, you also will abide in the Son and in the Father. 25 And this is the promise that He has promised us—eternal life.

[Sower]

2 hours ago, Mr. M said:

My favorite "abide" verse.

1 John 2:24 Therefore let that abide in you which you heard from the beginning. If what you heard from the beginning abides in you, you also will abide in the Son and in the Father. 25 And this is the promise that He has promised us—eternal life.

 
Sounds like when abiding in the word is abiding in the Son and the Father,

and abiding we bear Fruit, (for others), which glorifies the Father.

 

In the beginning was the Word,

and the Word was with God,

and the (Word was God)

1 Jn 2:24  English Standard Version

"Let what you (heard) from the beginning abide in you.
If what you (heard) from the beginning abides in you,
then you too (will) abide in the Son and in the Father"
"
I and the Father are (not is) one.”   Think on that...
Cool.

God is Light!
God is the Word!
The Word is Light!

The Light of the Word is eternal Life.

 

Thanks M...

[Wayne222]

           Fruit comes from doing good. But we want fruit from the vine. So the good comes from obeying Jesus commandments. Love others as I loved you. If one refuses to obey Jesus they are cast as a branch into the fire. God gives one a lot of time. Like in revelation Jesus tells them to repent lest I come against you with the sword in my mouth. Jesus waits until he is sure it's no use. 

[Sower]

34 minutes ago, Wayne222 said:

Fruit comes from doing good.

My bible Jn: 15 says fruit comes from abiding in Christ, which means as a branch we bear the fruit the vine produced.

I can not bear fruit unless I abide in Christ. Jesus says unless I abide, I can do nothing.

In Christ I can do all things. Not I, but Christ. I abide and Christ works through me.
When He works through me, when abiding, I bear his fruit.

You say "Fruit comes from doing good"  Yes, but I know doing good only comes from abiding in the True Vine, Jesus.

"So the good comes from obeying Jesus commandments. Obeying to me is abiding, in the spirit, His will.

                           "The tiniest fragment of obedience is the will of God!"       ....Oswald Chambers

[Wayne222]

2 hours ago, Sower said:

My bible Jn: 15 says fruit comes from abiding in Christ, which means as a branch we bear the fruit the vine produced.

I can not bear fruit unless I abide in Christ. Jesus says unless I abide, I can do nothing.

In Christ I can do all things. Not I, but Christ. I abide and Christ works through me.
When He works through me, when abiding, I bear his fruit.

You say "Fruit comes from doing good"  Yes, but I know doing good only comes from abiding in the True Vine, Jesus.

"So the good comes from obeying Jesus commandments. Obeying to me is abiding, in the spirit, His will.

                           "The tiniest fragment of obedience is the will of God!"       ....Oswald Chambers

Jesus said if my words abide in you you will bear much fruit. I agree with you. Also Jesus said to keep his commandments to love one another and so bear fruit. Doing good to others will bear fruit. we abide in him by keeping his commandments. 

[Mr. M]

4 hours ago, Wayne222 said:

Jesus said if my words abide in you you will bear much fruit. I agree with you. Also Jesus said to keep his commandments to love one another and so bear fruit. Doing good to others will bear fruit. we abide in him by keeping his commandments. 

We all have to deal with one another in life. In Christ, we do so with patience, long suffering with Joy, etc...

by the power of the Holy Spirit. Other people make me realize how much I need Christ to be like Christ, and

hopefully become less of a burden and more of a blessing for them. WE can do all things in Christ, for we are

seated together with Him in the heavenlies.

[TheBlade]

Not sure about "wheres the fruit" being said or where. Look how a GOD talks to something like a ant and say the Sun. God comes down to my level. For me I forget "text" can be taking so many different ways that you never once meant it the way its "printed". 

As for seed falling dying. What came to mind was a dream I had not to long ago. It was this huge plant with something wrapped around it and He just said "you have to let them grow together". Not what you were talking about I think sorry. 

[Marathoner]

I can't speak for anyone else, but dealing with myself reminds me of my desperate need for the Lord to teach me what my right and left hands are doing. Were it not for the Lord, I wouldn't be here today. 

There is a pretense afoot which proclaims, "They're terrible! Lord, help me deal with this one!" Is that so? The Lord and His apostle Paul teach us to examine ourselves first: 

“Do not judge, so that you will not be judged. For in the way you judge, you will be judged; and by your standard of measure, it will be measured to you. Why do you look at the speck that is in your brother’s eye, but do not notice the log that is in your own eye? Or how can you say to your brother, ‘Let me take the speck out of your eye,’ and look, the log is in your own eye? You hypocrite, first take the log out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to take the speck out of your brother’s eye!" (Matthew 7:1-5 NASB)

Test yourselves to see if you are in the faith; examine yourselves! Or do you not recognize this about yourselves, that Jesus Christ is in you—unless indeed you fail the test? (2 Corinthians 13:5 NASB)

Be wary, unless the one who judges another finds themselves as the terrible one.

 

[Mr. M]

13 minutes ago, Marathoner said:

I can't speak for anyone else, but dealing with myself reminds me of my desperate need for the Lord to teach me what my right and left hands are doing. Were it not for the Lord, I wouldn't be here today. 

There is a pretense afoot which proclaims, "They're terrible! Lord, help me deal with this one!" Is that so? The Lord and His apostle Paul teach us to examine ourselves first: 

“Do not judge, so that you will not be judged. For in the way you judge, you will be judged; and by your standard of measure, it will be measured to you. Why do you look at the speck that is in your brother’s eye, but do not notice the log that is in your own eye? Or how can you say to your brother, ‘Let me take the speck out of your eye,’ and look, the log is in your own eye? You hypocrite, first take the log out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to take the speck out of your brother’s eye!" (Matthew 7:1-5 NASB)

Test yourselves to see if you are in the faith; examine yourselves! Or do you not recognize this about yourselves, that Jesus Christ is in you—unless indeed you fail the test? (2 Corinthians 13:5 NASB)

Be wary, unless the one who judges another finds themselves as the terrible one.

 

What are you talking about here? Bearing fruit? The OP points out that fruit often takes time to manifest,

and asking "where's the fruit" can be hasty, as the parable pointed out. Sometimes a person or situation

just needs a bit more loving attention. Rather than ask "where's the fruit" as a criticism, ask what can we

do to bring forth fruit? The caretaker says, "let's give it more time". Shouldn't we say the same thing as

often as possible before dismissing someone?

 

[farouk]

On 2/27/2023 at 11:13 PM, Sower said:

My bible Jn: 15 says fruit comes from abiding in Christ, which means as a branch we bear the fruit the vine produced.

I can not bear fruit unless I abide in Christ. Jesus says unless I abide, I can do nothing.

In Christ I can do all things. Not I, but Christ. I abide and Christ works through me.
When He works through me, when abiding, I bear his fruit.

You say "Fruit comes from doing good"  Yes, but I know doing good only comes from abiding in the True Vine, Jesus.

"So the good comes from obeying Jesus commandments. Obeying to me is abiding, in the spirit, His will.

                           "The tiniest fragment of obedience is the will of God!"       ....Oswald Chambers

@Sower Great passage there; and I was thinking of how it links with the idea of 'continuing steadfastly' in Acts 2.42 activities in Christ.