If you see a person start a mass shooting and you carry a gun, what will you do ?

[Neighbor]

BTW when planning  for a mass shooting incident in facilities you have control over and responsibility for it is also necessary to have plans  in place for the aftermath of it.

Who are your go to people for emergency medical care that may already be in the building,? Do you know where in the building they are going to be found?

When it hits the fan who is the in charge person that is going to call the commands of the defensive operation?  Need to know  at least that much ahead of time all the time, if one really wants a defense set up. Otherwise it will be a circular firing squad situation followed by total chaos.

Unfortunately there is now also what is called the Ferguson Syndrome in the police community around the USA. They are most reluctant to get involved if it is a minor for they know they will automatically face personal lawsuits regardless, and have a high probability of criminal charges  if anything at all goes wrong in dealing with minors.

So where does that leave a little local church security group, or a school teacher in today's world when a kid goes nutso with a weapon?

Did you notice how the police that finally arrived on scene at a school recently when a large kid attacked a teacher's aid? They just stood around leaving all handling of the attacker to one lady school employee.  Can hardly blame them  as long as the teacher maintained control they were likely best off not to risk getting sued themselves for assisting.

It is more than crazy  what is being faced today- I do believe it to be encouraged, financed, by a very vast network out to destroy the idea of nations altogether. You know the group and the source of funds. 

Please keep your own law enforcement personnel in your own daily prayers, give them your support in every way you can.

[Neighbor]

3 hours ago, Vine Abider said:

oh wait - that's only what I dreamed I would do, but then I wake up . . . )

That is also a scene out of the movie War Room when the old lady faces down the mugger.

 

[Marathoner]

19 hours ago, R. Hartono said:

I will try to strike with stone like Moses killed the Egyptian. But it may not happen like that as i may run to the hill. Not sure.

Thanks for responding, my friend. It's only fair (and good) that I do the same and answer the question posed by your OP.

First, I'm not a stranger to this sort of thing. I've been shot at, had a gun thrust into my face, and stood while bullets tore through space all around this body (you can feel bullets when they're close). Because of this, I know precisely what I would do. I don't own guns nor do I carry one, so I won't be shooting. It's simple:

In an active shooter situation, my first priority is everyone else. I'll do whatever I can to ensure others survive so if that means being a decoy, capturing the assailants attention so that others can escape with their lives, then it's my honor to do so. I honestly don't care if I'm shot and/or killed. I never have, @R. Hartono. I'm not afraid to die.

I was already almost dead once, so I know there's nothing to fear. I've also endured quite a bit of pain during my life so I'm not afraid of pain, either. What's 90 seconds of pain compared to years of suffering a slow death? 

I refuse to do the killing. There was a time when I was trained how to kill using a variety of different weapons, when I was a soldier in the U.S. Army, but that before the Lord called me from this world. 

I don't serve men nor their causes, brother. I serve the Lord and I know that one day, He will gather me to Him. Is there a bullet with my name on it? Only the Lord knows. 

[Neighbor]

27 minutes ago, The_Patriot21 said:

Lol i got where you were getting at...but you used a lot of words to say just that, and your comment about this thread being full of "I can shoot better then everyone else" people can easily be misinterpreted.

 

 

Did I say it that way? Really, hmm, I meant to say all these threads do end up with a litney of declarations about past exploits and talents and who has what  for weaponry. It is natural I suppose in perhaps many of us.

What I was really trying to get  at is this is all on the internet-come time  anyone does get so unfortunate as to get into a shoot out with a bad guy the statements  made  going way back  are likely to be brought into the forefront of any shooting investigation  or lawsuit.

Plus ya don't want to do what our USA President has done, announce to the world at large that has has told his wife; - if there is an intruder go out on the balcony and empty the double barrel shotgun into the air to alert neighbors. That will scare them off.     Yah sure Mr. President sure.

Well, I don't know what good fruit will come from continuing this little trip through violence confrontation theory and experience so I will depart  stage left, or is it right? Maybe get myself some popcorn.

[The_Patriot21]

13 minutes ago, Neighbor said:

Did I say it that way? Really, hmm, I meant to say all these threads do end up with a litney of declarations about past exploits and talents and who has what  for weaponry. It is natural I suppose in perhaps many of us.

What I was really trying to get  at is this is all on the internet-come time  anyone does get so unfortunate as to get into a shoot out with a bad guy the statements  made  going way back  are likely to be brought into the forefront of any shooting investigation  or lawsuit.

Plus ya don't want to do what our USA President has done, announce to the world at large that has has told his wife; - if there is an intruder go out on the balcony and empty the double barrel shotgun into the air to alert neighbors. That will scare them off.     Yah sure Mr. President sure.

Well, I don't know what good fruit will come from continuing this little trip through violence confrontation theory and experience so I will depart  stage left, or is it right? Maybe get myself some popcorn.

No I got it, I wasn't saying that was what you said or intended, I said that was how it could be interpreted. 

I think we both know that perceptions don't always match reality...I was just answering your question...which you asked. 

[The_Patriot21]

57 minutes ago, Vine Abider said:

This has reminded me that I haven't done any target practice in awhile . . .  (that way I can get back to being able to say I can shoot better than all y'alls!)

Yeah, I haven't done any shooting in awhile. Though my wife did allow me to buy some 300 blackout this weekend...have enough now to go do some midnight varmint hunting. just need to find the time to do it lol.

[Neighbor]

Okay, but for the fun of it  while the popcorn is in the microwave  perhaps I'll rattle a cage or two for fun by saying I got my fourth Covid vaccine and  my flu shot together at the same time last Friday, one in each arm. And again I have had no adverse reaction.  Nah, guess I won't start such a thread-

Bing! Oh there's the popcorn. Bye for now.

[Dennis1209]

I want to interject another thought on this topic. If you are close to my age, can you imagine having this discussion (mass shootings) in the 1950s, 60s, and 70s?

How fast has our society degenerated in such a short historical time frame? We are not in Kansas anymore, and evil is progressing faster than anyone can report on or put into statistics. The Bible tells us about the times we are living; as hard as it is to imagine, things will continue to worsen.

In hindsight, it appears evident to me how we arrived at this point. First and foremost, there is an apostasy occurring nationally and globally. I could write a doctoral thesaurus on taking God and the Ten Commandments out of government(s) and the public arena. The number of church doors closing and today's church attendance, humanism, evolution replacing a creator, and much more.

The statistics are staggering from my boyhood and young adult life. There used to be a stigma attached to homosexuality, those that divorced, shacked up together, got an abortion, etc. Now they are encouraged and celebrated. I will not quote statistics or percentages other than to say they are astounding.

Single-parent homes with the abandonment and absence of a father. The percentage of the population addicted to prescription and illegal pharmakeia—the percentage of couples living together outside of matrimony, on and on.

Murderous and violent video games, music, and a plethora of lethal violent movies and programs replaced God, morals, and values. No wonder our youth and society cannot differentiate between fantasy and reality, morals and evil, and right and wrong.

As I mentioned in my previous rant, our children, grandchildren, and loved ones are more likely to experience personal violence than ever. And it is escalating at an exponential rate. Drug addicts alone will do anything to get their next high, even steal from and murder their parents; having plenty of examples.

Our government(s) are encouraging and promoting societal breakdown, promoting homosexuality, wokism, the counter-culture, and defunding law enforcement. Quality law enforcement personnel are exiting the profession by the groves. Providing sanctuary cities, unrestricted drug cartel access and immigration on the southern border, gun confiscation from law-abiding citizens, so we become defenseless, and criminals released. Unpunished back on our streets, to name a few.

[other one]

11 hours ago, Neighbor said:

Okay, but for the fun of it  while the popcorn is in the microwave  perhaps I'll rattle a cage or two for fun by saying I got my fourth Covid vaccine and  my flu shot together at the same time last Friday, one in each arm. And again I have had no adverse reaction.  Nah, guess I won't start such a thread-

Bing! Oh there's the popcorn. Bye for now.

I got a shingles shot two days ago and boy does it make your arm sore...

[NConly]

5 minutes ago, other one said:

I got a shingles shot two days ago and boy does it make your arm sore...

I got shingles about a yr ago it hurt quite a bit for six months. In Tn they only gave 10 pain pills and no more so it was painful for 5 1/2 months no one offed me a shingles shot. Maybe I need to ask for one