Why was Man Created?

[LiveWire]

24 minutes ago, upuntildown said:

Why was Man Created?

Perhaps Eve was lonely?

Did Eve appear on Earth before Adam?

[JohnR7]

1 hour ago, Littlelambseativy said:

Calvin???? I do not think so... not in any book I have read or studied.

Ok, I will change that to Eastern Orthodox theology, where the Fall is often understood as a necessary step in God's plan for humanity's deification or theosis. While the specifics may vary among different Eastern Orthodox theologians and traditions, there is a general belief that the Fall was not a surprise or a mistake but a part of God's providential design.

[JohnR7]

On 6/2/2023 at 2:56 PM, backontrack said:

God knows the end from the biggening so he knew what Man would do even before he did things against his wishes.

He could have known. He also has the ability not to know. He also has the ability not to know. Jeremiah 31:34 I will forgive their iniquity, and THEIR SIN I WILL REMEMBER NO MORE. Hebrews 8:12 and 10:17 THEIR SINS AND LAWLESS DEEDS I WILL REMEMBER NO MORE.

[Littlelambseativy]

1 hour ago, LiveWire said:

Did Eve appear on Earth before Adam?

Adam was created first in God's likeness and Eve was created to be Adam's companion a helpmate.

[Littlelambseativy]

1 hour ago, LiveWire said:

Did Eve appear on Earth before Adam?

Adam was created first in God's likeness and Eve was created to be Adam's companion a helpmate.

[Littlelambseativy]

1 hour ago, LiveWire said:

Did Eve appear on Earth before Adam?

Adam was created first in God's likeness and Eve was created to be Adam's companion a helpmate.

[Vine Abider]

1 hour ago, Littlelambseativy said:

Adam was created first in God's likeness and Eve was created to be Adam's companion a helpmate.

Correct - a picture of Christ and the church!  (BTW - you may want to delete three of your last posts as they are duplicates . . . )

[JimmyB]

1 hour ago, Littlelambseativy said:

Adam was created first in God's likeness and Eve was created to be Adam's companion a helpmate.

"Helpmate" is an archaism.  The phrase in Genesis means a helper who is suitable for him.  It has nothing to do with the English word "mate".

[Vine Abider]

18 hours ago, Marilyn C said:

Thank you for being so patient and gracious, VA.

So, Hebrews 11: 4 & 13 - 16.

`By faith Abel offered to God a more excellent sacrifice than Cain, through which he obtained witness that he was righteous...` (Enoch...Noah...Abraham....Sarah..etc)

`These all died in faith, not having received the promises, but having seen them afar off, they were assured of them, embraced them and confessed that they were STRANGERS AND PILGRIMS ON THE EARTH.

For those who say such things declare plainly that they seek a homeland. And truly if they had called to mind that country from which they had come out, they would have had opportunity to return.

But now they desire A BETTER, that is, a HEAVENLY COUNTRY. Therefore God is not ashamed to be called their God, for He has prepared a city for them.` 

So Abel and others received a revelation from God that He had planned MORE then just the earth for man. Some would go to the heavenlies and rule there.

Man on earth would have dominion over the earth, and some men (& women) would go to the heavenlies and rule from there. 

But wait, there is still more.......However I will wait to hear your comments thus far.

Marilyn.

This is something you've mentioned a number of times - that some will be in the heavenlies ruling.  You've tried to explain this a few times, but I don't see it, that is, that believers are split up with some on earth and others (overcomers?) in the heavens ("to sit with me on My throne").

However, I do clearly see that not all believer are treated the same and we are accountable and rewarded for our works.  And I see that this also translates to multiple raptures where those who mature early (first fruits) are taken before those who mature more slowly (harvest).  Therefore I see some possible opening for what you refer to.  However, as we've discussed before, I see all God's people living in the new Jerusalem, which comes down to the earth - as I see a continuity of God's plan being with dominion upon the earth right from the beginning of Genesis.  Whereas I think you believe the NJ is comprised of  doesn't actually come all the way down to the earth, right?   

 

[Marilyn C]

40 minutes ago, Vine Abider said:

This is something you've mentioned a number of times - that some will be in the heavenlies ruling.  You've tried to explain this a few times, but I don't see it, that is, that believers are split up with some on earth and others (overcomers?) in the heavens ("to sit with me on My throne").

However, I do clearly see that not all believer are treated the same and we are accountable and rewarded for our works.  And I see that this also translates to multiple raptures where those who mature early (first fruits) are taken before those who mature more slowly (harvest).  Therefore I see some possible opening for what you refer to.  However, as we've discussed before, I see all God's people living in the new Jerusalem, which comes down to the earth - as I see a continuity of God's plan being with dominion upon the earth right from the beginning of Genesis.  Whereas I think you believe the NJ is comprised of  doesn't actually come all the way down to the earth, right?   

 

Yes, we both have been taught differently, however, it is still good to discuss God`s word seeking the truth. Now, I do not see you replying to the scriptures but just giving your view. 

So, when God says, `These all died in faith, not having received the promises, but having seen them afar off, they were assured of them, embraced them, and confessed that they were STRANGERS AND PILGRIMS on the earth...` (Heb. 11: 13)

Those OT saints were often tortured for their belief of a heavenly homeland. (Heb. 11: 14 - 16, 36 & 37)

So, if they were to come back to earth again, then why go through the torture?