Let's discuss Revelation 17

[Revelation Man]

10 hours ago, douggg said:

The verse, Revelation 18:24 states...

24 And in her was found the blood of prophets, and of saints, and of all that were slain upon the earth.

That is the OTHER SIDE of the coin. You are conflating The Harlot (ALL FALSE RELIGION with Babylon, all of the False Governments under Satan's rule). REMEMBER, Satan rules Babylon, so yes, every murder comes from the murderers heart, Satan the original murderer, he deceives mankind. But the Murders of the Saints and Martyrs of Jesus came at the hand of False Religion, in other words if they had served the one true God they would not have killed the Prophets and Saints, and the Romans if they had served the one true God they would not have killed the Christians !! 

As per the Babylon WORLD GOVERNMENTS, yes all sin in Babylon the Great (Satan's Dark Kingdom on earth) came forth from SATAN'S HEART, or Babylon the Great, HIS WORLD so to speak, the god of this world as Paul stated. 

10 hours ago, douggg said:

Mystery, Babylon the Great, the kingdom of Satan and his angels, is the mother of harlots (false religions) and abominations of the earth.     Not that she herself is false religions, but that the kingdom of Satan and his angels inspired the false religions.

There is no Mystery, that is a header.

What you are doing is conflating the Religious side vs. the Gov. side. The reason the 10 (E.U.) kings kill her off is they become pro man, pro humanists, pro atheists, they serve the Beast, they refuse to serve ANY GOD, that is what Dan. 11:37 says, he serves NO GOD. 

Edited June 20, 2023 by Revelation Man

[Shilohsfoal]

14 minutes ago, Revelation Man said:

God uses Metaphors for a REASON, we have to figure them out, God can not lie. Thus when God says Babylon will never be a City where men dwell again, that ends the conversation and one this has to figure out (easy to do) why God uses Babylon. First, the passage where Isaiah states Babylon will never be a city dwelling place again, throughout ALL Generations. 

Isaiah 13:19 And Babylon, the glory of kingdoms, the beauty of the Chaldees' excellency, shall be as when God overthrew Sodom and Gomorrah.(They were obliterated, and still do not inhabit a single person in those cities God destroyed by fire and brimstone)

20 It (Babylon) shall never be inhabited, neither shall it be dwelt in from generation to generation(NEVER): neither shall the Arabian pitch tent there; neither shall the shepherds make their fold there.

21 But wild beasts of the desert shall lie there; and their houses shall be full of doleful creatures; and owls shall dwell there, and satyrs shall dance there.

Since God can not lie, Babylon will never be a city again. So, why use the name Babylon in the book of Revelation? Because if God, who wrote the book of Revelation, had used Rome or said the whole WORLD was getting judged, the Romans would have destroyed those documents, and jailed those church members for treason/sedition to Rome. The same reason the Woman was used for Israel, Rome had just sacked Israel, they did not want to read ANYTHING tat stated Israel would rule the whole world in the end times, Rome felt they ruled the whole world !! Any statement that THE WORLD was going to be judged mean Rome had tom be judged. But when God used Babylon, He knew the Romans would laugh at these "UNLEARNED Christians" thinkin to themselves, they don't even know Babylon is a DEAD CITY !! Also, Babel represents CONFUSION, thus Babylon can represent a confused world getting Judged, and those of us hip to Prophetic Utterings will understand that. And that use placed the Church during that time in no peril, we even saw in the New Testament someone referring to the Church at Babylon, but that was a code for the Roman Church it seems, they had become more and more anti Christian until finally they started murdering the Saints. 

THAT CITY Babylon represents the WHOLE WORLD who are so CONFUSED by Satan that they try to fight against their own loving Creator. That is BABEL (Confusion). 

So, on the one hand God has stated via His Prophet Babylon will never be inhabited again, and on the other hand we can see why "Babylon" was used as a CODE WORD in the book of Revelation. 

I've already figured out where Babylon is.

Luke I just said.I read the news almost everyday how the king of Babylon is sending his forces to kill and other days je is foreign missiles at his neighbors.

It's no wonder Babylon is hated by all it's neighbors.

Revelation 17

The beast and the ten horns you saw will hate the prostitute. They will bring her to ruin and leave her naked; they will eat her flesh and burn her with fire.

 

You believe they hate the world including thier own kingdoms but that proves you don't know who they are or who they hate.

[Shilohsfoal]

22 minutes ago, truth7t7 said:

YouBabylon? Syrias president Asad is (The Beas) and Syria is mystery babylon?

The king of Babylon attacked Damascus last week.Its a common occurrence.

 

You understand why those kings hate babylon don't you?

 

After the king of Babylon falls,Palestinia will be the first to rejoice.

 

Isaiah 14

29 Rejoice not thou, whole Palestina, because the rod of him that smote thee is broken: for out of the serpent's root shall come forth a cockatrice, and his fruit shall be a fiery flying serpent.

 

 

Anyone who read today's news would understand why Palestinia would rejoice at the fall of the king of Babylon.

 

 

Edited June 20, 2023 by Shilohsfoal

[Michael37]

1 hour ago, Shilohsfoal said:

It's not compared to a city.

It is literally called a city by God.

 

This is for the mind that has wisdom.

 

Revelation 17:18

The woman you saw is the great city that rules over the kings of the earth.”

 

 

Almost everyday I read the news to see what the king of Babylon is up to.Most days he is sending his forces to kill someone as today or he is sending missiles down on his neighbors.No wonder they hate babylon .

One day soon the cedars of Lebanon will say there is no man to come against us and Palestinia shall rejoice at his fall.

Metaphors are inherently comparisons, in this case the comparison is of the matriarchal harlot with the global confusion of godless humanity.

[Shilohsfoal]

8 minutes ago, Michael37 said:

Metaphors are inherently comparisons, in this case the comparison is of the matriarchal harlot with the global confusion of godless humanity.

Well,I'll just stick with the biblical.prostitute then .At least I know Isaiah won't steer me in the wrong direction.

 

 

Isaiah 1:21

See how the faithful city has become a prostitute! She once was full of justice; righteousness used to dwell in her— but now murderers!

[douggg]

1 hour ago, truth7t7 said:

Mystery Babylon the Great is Jerusalem, the woman, the great city, as you have been shown several times

Mystery Babylon the Great is not Jerusalem, because Jerusalem is not responsible for all slain upon the earth - as you have been shown several times.

Revelation 18:24 And in her was found the blood of prophets, and of saints, and of all that were slain upon the earth.

 

[Marilyn C]

2 hours ago, Revelation Man said:

God uses Metaphors for a REASON, we have to figure them out, God can not lie. Thus when God says Babylon will never be a City where men dwell again, that ends the conversation and one this has to figure out (easy to do) why God uses Babylon. First, the passage where Isaiah states Babylon will never be a city dwelling place again, throughout ALL Generations. 

Isaiah 13:19 And Babylon, the glory of kingdoms, the beauty of the Chaldees' excellency, shall be as when God overthrew Sodom and Gomorrah.(They were obliterated, and still do not inhabit a single person in those cities God destroyed by fire and brimstone)

20 It (Babylon) shall never be inhabited, neither shall it be dwelt in from generation to generation(NEVER): neither shall the Arabian pitch tent there; neither shall the shepherds make their fold there.

21 But wild beasts of the desert shall lie there; and their houses shall be full of doleful creatures; and owls shall dwell there, and satyrs shall dance there.

Since God can not lie, Babylon will never be a city again.

Hi Rev Man,

Actually the city of Babylon is being rebuilt, so that prophecy is yet future.

[Marilyn C]

[Marilyn C]

[Marilyn C]

The Future Babylon Project.

 

Following the 2003 invasion of Iraq, the area around Babylon came under the control of US forces. Much damage was done by military vehicles; however, the US are now working with Iraq leaders to restore Babylon.

 

This project is called the Future Babylon project. (2009)

 

Those involved will involve the local community and work to create a sustainable situation. Jeff Allen of the US side said, “The idea is to develop something that is going to be here 30 – 40 years from now and has benefits for the local people. We don`t want something that will only benefit outsiders.”

 

“If you have 200, 000 people a year coming to this site, you will have people staying at hotels, visiting restaurants, buying souvenirs,” Allen said. “The site is in some ways a revenue generator for the local community.”

 

The State Board of Antiquities and Heritage (SBAH) is the main authority responsible for the conservation of the archeological site. They are assisted by Antiquity and Heritage Police and maintain a permanent presence there.

 

The World Monuments Fund is also involved in research and conservation. The SBAH Provincial Inspectorate headquarters is located within the boundaries of the ancient inner-city walls on the east side and several staff members and their families reside in subsidized housing in this area.

 

The United Nations Educational, Scientific and Cultural Organization is spending millions of dollars into protecting and restoring – Babylon and some other ancient ruins. UNESCO has printed up a well-produced brochure, with Babylon listed as the premier destination, to hand out to wealthy donors.

 

The Babylon project is Iraq`s biggest and most ambitious by far, reflection of the ancient city`s fame and its resonance in Iraq`s modern political and cultural heritage.