I AM THAT I AM

[farouk]

1 hour ago, kwikphilly said:

Blessings Brother

The Word of God is so Beautiful,the Living Word.....Halleluyah,Praise Jesus,my Redeemer Lives

I was scrolling through threads and thought- wait a minute,what's going on here in the Study about " The Great I AM" and I just had to go back to the OP    So glad I did!

The Food for my spirit,the Living Waters and the Bread of Life- Glory to Almighty God Most High

The Great I Am....

and Jesus replied" before Abraham was,I AM ( John 8:58)

@kwikphilly Reminds me also of 'The God of Abraham Praise', by Thomas Olivers:

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The God of Abraham praise,
who reigns enthroned above;
Ancient of Everlasting Days,
and God of Love;
Jehovah, great I AM!
by earth and heaven confessed;
I bow and bless the sacred name
forever blest.

2 The great I AM has sworn;
I on this oath depend.
I shall, on eagle wings upborne,
to heaven ascend.
I shall behold God's face;
I shall God's power adore,
and sing the wonders of God's grace
forevermore.

3 The heavenly land I see,
with peace and plenty blest;
a land of sacred liberty,
and endless rest.
There milk and honey flow,
and oil and wine abound,
and trees of life forever grow
with mercy crowned.

4 The God who reigns on high
the great archangels sing,
and "Holy, holy, holy!" cry
"Almighty King!
Who was, and is, the same,
and evermore shall be:
Jehovah, Lord, the great I AM,
we worship thee!"

United Methodist Hymnal, 1989

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[kwikphilly]

4 hours ago, Know Jah said:

I must disagree. God himself put a name on Himself. Psalm 83:18 and Jesus at Matthew 6:9 "let your name be sanctified"

Who exactly are you disagreeing with or more specifically,",whst" exactly are you disagreeing with ?

Not really sure what you are trying to say...

Jehovah,is actually a hybrid form of YHVH- derived from the actual Tetragrammation used in early ancient Hebrew text.... so for simplicity sake it is the English translation....

So what does this have to do with Jesus Teaching " how to pray intimately" and personally by addressing Almighty God as ",Abba" ( Father)?

If you would be so kind to elaborate

[Michael37]

10 hours ago, Slibhin said:

Okay, what specifically?

Mat 15:1-9  Then Pharisees and scribes came to Jesus from Jerusalem, saying,  (2)  “Why do your disciples disobey the tradition of the elders? For they don’t wash their hands when they eat bread.”  (3)  He answered them, “Why do you also disobey the commandment of God because of your tradition?  (4)  For God commanded, ‘Honor your father and your mother,’ and, ‘He who speaks evil of father or mother, let him be put to death.’  (5)  But you say, ‘Whoever may tell his father or his mother, “Whatever help you might otherwise have gotten from me is a gift devoted to God,”  (6)  he shall not honor his father or mother.’ You have made the commandment of God void because of your tradition.  (7)  You hypocrites! Well did Isaiah prophesy of you, saying,  (8)  ‘These people draw near to me with their mouth, and honor me with their lips; but their heart is far from me.  (9)  And in vain do they worship me, teaching as doctrine rules made by men.’”
 

[Your closest friendnt]

9 hours ago, kwikphilly said:

Who exactly are you disagreeing with or more specifically,",whst" exactly are you disagreeing with ?

Not really sure what you are trying to say...

Jehovah,is actually a hybrid form of YHVH- derived from the actual Tetragrammation used in early ancient Hebrew text.... so for simplicity sake it is the English translation....

So what does this have to do with Jesus Teaching " how to pray intimately" and personally by addressing Almighty God as ",Abba" ( Father)?

If you would be so kind to elaborate

@kwikphilly

Greetings to you Kwik, that's what I found out in Exodus chapter 3. 

Exodus 6:3 New International Version
3. I appeared to Abraham, to Isaac and to Jacob as God Almighty, but by my name the LORD I did not make myself fully known to them. 

Exodus 3:14  

14 God said to Moses, “I am who I am. This is what you are to say to the Israelites: ‘I am has sent me to you.’”15 God also said to Moses, “Say to the Israelites, ‘The Lord, the God of your fathers—the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac and the God of Jacob—has sent me to you.’ 

The Israelites and Moses had learned to identify the God's of Egypt by their specific name, and they had learn what each one of them was assigned to do. 

 Their names were associated with a specific ministry, to what they were doing. God understood how they had learn to think because they same set up was with the Gods of their neighbors and the Greeks and the Romans. God understood their mind set and he wanted to tell them that he is the God for everything, just him alone. One God for all their needs. Later on with the ten Comandments and the institution of the Sabath God lock them up (He put their feet in one shoe) to worship only him. The Sabath it was only for him and he did not leave room for anyone else. He took away from them the worship of Angels and the worship of their Ansestors...and some of them they rebel big time. They could not grasp that one God has all the portfolios of the government unto himself. That could not be found in any religion in the whole world. At that time. And maybe today. 

What did God wanted to say to Moses? 

Under the Covenant of Circumcision God did not hold their sins against them. 

Is it that's why he tells Moses that  the beginning of something New is about to srart. That He will held them accountable for their sins. Later he provided a way for the forgiveness of their sins ( but not all of them) That  He biggins to be with them and quide them. And he followed that statement by giving them the ten Comandments to start with and he followed up with the Levitical priesthood and the tent of Testimony and their religious Calendar and the book of Leviticus and He gave them the Sabath that he wanted them to be a Holy Nation and He began to rein over them and judge the disobedient. 

The sons of Jacob got away with a lot of things that they would never gotten away if they lived under the ten Comandments and the Sinai Covenant. 

 

Edited October 28, 2023 by Your closest friendnt

[kwikphilly]

5 hours ago, Your closest friendnt said:

@kwikphilly

Greetings to you Kwik, that's what I found out in Exodus chapter 3. 

Exodus 6:3 New International Version
3. I appeared to Abraham, to Isaac and to Jacob as God Almighty, but by my name the LORD I did not make myself fully known to them. 

Exodus 3:14  

14 God said to Moses, “I am who I am. This is what you are to say to the Israelites: ‘I am has sent me to you.’”15 God also said to Moses, “Say to the Israelites, ‘The Lord, the God of your fathers—the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac and the God of Jacob—has sent me to you.’ 

The Israelites and Moses had learned to identify the God's of Egypt by their specific name, and they had learn what each one of them was assigned to do. 

 Their names were associated with a specific ministry, to what they were doing. God understood how they had learn to think because they same set up was with the Gods of their neighbors and the Greeks and the Romans. God understood their mind set and he wanted to tell them that he is the God for everything, just him alone. One God for all their needs. Later on with the ten Comandments and the institution of the Sabath God lock them up (He put their feet in one shoe) to worship only him. The Sabath it was only for him and he did not leave room for anyone else. He took away from them the worship of Angels and the worship of their Ansestors...and some of them they rebel big time. They could not grasp that one God has all the portfolios of the government unto himself. That could not be found in any religion in the whole world. At that time. And maybe today. 

What did God wanted to say to Moses? 

Under the Covenant of Circumcision God did not hold their sins against them. 

Is it that's why he tells Moses that  the beginning of something New is about to srart. That He will held them accountable for their sins. Later he provided a way for the forgiveness of their sins ( but not all of them) That  He biggins to be with them and quide them. And he followed that statement by giving them the ten Comandments to start with and he followed up with the Levitical priesthood and the tent of Testimony and their religious Calendar and the book of Leviticus and He gave them the Sabath that he wanted them to be a Holy Nation and He began to rein over them and judge the disobedient. 

The sons of Jacob got away with a lot of things that they would never gotten away if they lived under the ten Comandments and the Sinai Covenant. 

 

I have no idea how your reply relates to my question for@Know Jah

I mean no disrespect dear Friendnt but I was sincerely hoping to bring @JohnD 's lovely Topic back to the the Case & Point which is a matter of Life and Death and not spiral off Topic into non Salvational discussion

The Point is that Jesus IS God -He Lives!He Left His Throne & Reduced Himself to Servitude to Offer Himself as the Bread from Heaven,the Bread of Life- the Way,,the Truth and the Life

Fully God and Fully Human,God the Son is indeed I Am-God is not a man that He Could lie and by His Very Own Word He Reveals Himself to the Eyes of Understanding

Id appreciate staying on Topic.    the side chatter is merely distraction from the Good News

With love in Christ,Kwik

[kwikphilly]

9 hours ago, Michael37 said:

Mat 15:1-9  Then Pharisees and scribes came to Jesus from Jerusalem, saying,  (2)  “Why do your disciples disobey the tradition of the elders? For they don’t wash their hands when they eat bread.”  (3)  He answered them, “Why do you also disobey the commandment of God because of your tradition?  (4)  For God commanded, ‘Honor your father and your mother,’ and, ‘He who speaks evil of father or mother, let him be put to death.’  (5)  But you say, ‘Whoever may tell his father or his mother, “Whatever help you might otherwise have gotten from me is a gift devoted to God,”  (6)  he shall not honor his father or mother.’ You have made the commandment of God void because of your tradition.  (7)  You hypocrites! Well did Isaiah prophesy of you, saying,  (8)  ‘These people draw near to me with their mouth, and honor me with their lips; but their heart is far from me.  (9)  And in vain do they worship me, teaching as doctrine rules made by men.’”
 

Praise the Lord ,Faith Comes by Hearing the Word of God

Addressing side chatter might be better for its own thread,,just a suggestion ..  This Thread has been thrown off Topic many pages ago....agree?

Bible Study is Awesome,it'd be wonderful to enjoy a deeper discussion of the Scriptures amongst the Body of Believers- we are not here to defend the authenticity of Jesus Written Words,we can entertain thst in many discussion Forums- Here we Study the Inerrant,,Infallible Word of God

 

[farouk]

1 minute ago, kwikphilly said:

Bible Study is Awesome,it'd be wonderful to enjoy a deeper discussion of the Scriptures amongst the Body of Believers- we are not here to defend the authenticity of Jesus Written Words,we can entertain thst in many discussion Forums- Here we Study the Inerrant,,Infallible Word of God

 

Amen @kwikphilly

[kwikphilly]

15 minutes ago, farouk said:

Amen @kwikphilly

Thank you Brother but let's thank God for Reminding us why we are here.....we MUST keep our eyes on Jesus and not be distracted

It is how we GROW in the Unity of our Faith,we must Remain in One Accord for the Effectiveness of the Body of Christ-,Amen?

[farouk]

1 minute ago, kwikphilly said:

Thank you Brother but let's thank God for Reminding us why we are here.....we MUST keep our eyes on Jesus and not be distracted

It is how we GROW in the Unity of our Faith,we must Remain in One Accord for the Effectiveness of the Body of Christ-,Amen?

@kwikphilly A true Berean spirit to search the Scriptures daily is very precious...........

[kwikphilly]

I've had so many discussions about this very Topic,,especially with JWs who ,imo are quite ignorant in Bible Study-I can't really understand how anyone does not have any desire to seek God,Intimately,Personally ..I suppose the hardening of the heart is the reason because of strong delusion

God Revealed Himself Personally to Moses,Moses as we can see was a foreshadow of our Jesus..... the Mediator,showing God's Called out ones the Way

So what Does God Mean by telling Moses to tell the people " I Am thst I Am" when they ask " what is His Name?@John explained very early on what that means and he went into the transliterations such as " Alpha & Omega" ...also we should get into YHVH to explain why the ancient Hebrews inscribed this Tetragrammation ( much like we see folks write G_d   )

Anyone like to reply ? We know what IT means ( I Am) but who would like to answer God's Purpose for the Answer He Gave Moses

With love in Christ,Kwik

@JohnD @Mr. M

@Michael37