It Is Not For You To Know!

[Mr. M]

Acts 1:7 And He said to them,

It is not for you to know times or seasons which the Father has put in His own authority.

Why then have we been given Revelation?

1:3 Blessed is he who reads and those who hear the words of this prophecy,

and keep those things which are written in it; for the time is near.

What does it mean to "keep these words"?

John 14:29 And now I have told you before it comes, that when it does come to pass, you may believe.

To turn the word of prophetic truth into scholarly, theological debate is anathema.

Revelation 22:

18 For I testify to everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: 

If anyone adds to these things, God will add to him the plagues that are written in this book; 

19 and if anyone takes away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part

from the Book of Life, from the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.

We are witnesses

Acts 1:8 But you shall receive power when the Holy Spirit has come upon you; and 

you shall be witnesses to Me in Jerusalem, and in all Judea and Samaria,

and to the end of the earth.

"Occupy until I come"

Matthew 24:14 And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in all the world

as a witness to all the nations, and then the end will come.

Luke 2:19 But Mary kept all these things and pondered them in her heart. 

Edited July 21, 2023 by Mr. M
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[AdHoc]

7 hours ago, Mr. M said:

Acts 1:7 And He said to them,

It is not for you to know times or seasons which the Father has put in His own authority.

Why then have we been given Revelation?

Revelation will only help marginally. The question was;

6 When they therefore were come together, they asked of him, saying, Lord, wilt thou at this time restore again the kingdom to Israel? 7 And he said unto them, It is not for you to know the times or the seasons, which the Father hath put in his own power. (Act.1:6–7)

In Matthew 21:43, our Lord Jesus informs Israel that although the Kingdom (and the King) were "at hand", He has ripped the Kingdom from Israel. The Kingdom is when Christ, together with diligent and faithful servants will rule the world (Rom.4:13). The question was NOT, "will Israel be restored as a Nation". That is guaranteed by the Promises in the Covenant with Abraham, and the following prophets. But will Israel have this loss of the Kingdom overturned? NO! 12 CHRISTIANS will rule Israel by Tribe, and David, who wrote extensively about the coming Messiah, will be second in the Kingdom of Israel (Jer.30:9).

Israel will be restored to number 1 NATION. But they will never rule the earth.

[Shilohsfoal]

50 minutes ago, AdHoc said:

Revelation will only help marginally. The question was;

6 When they therefore were come together, they asked of him, saying, Lord, wilt thou at this time restore again the kingdom to Israel? 7 And he said unto them, It is not for you to know the times or the seasons, which the Father hath put in his own power. (Act.1:6–7)

In Matthew 21:43, our Lord Jesus informs Israel that although the Kingdom (and the King) were "at hand", He has ripped the Kingdom from Israel. The Kingdom is when Christ, together with diligent and faithful servants will rule the world (Rom.4:13). The question was NOT, "will Israel be restored as a Nation". That is guaranteed by the Promises in the Covenant with Abraham, and the following prophets. But will Israel have this loss of the Kingdom overturned? NO! 12 CHRISTIANS will rule Israel by Tribe, and David, who wrote extensively about the coming Messiah, will be second in the Kingdom of Israel (Jer.30:9).

Israel will be restored to number 1 NATION. But they will never rule the earth.

Israel will rule the nations in the Lords land.(,kingdom of heaven)

Isaiah 14:2

And the people shall take them, and bring them to their place: and the house of Israel shall possess them in the land of the LORD for servants and handmaids: and they shall take them captives, whose captives they were; and they shall rule over their oppressors.

 

The remnant of Israel is a special group.They do not worship the beast or it's image or recieve the mark of the beast.They are killed for their witness of Jesus and for the word of God.

They follow the lamb whereever he goes.

[Revelation Man]

9 hours ago, Mr. M said:

Acts 1:7 And He said to them,

It is not for you to know times or seasons which the Father has put in His own authority.

Why then have we been given Revelation?

Those he was speaking unto could never know the times nor seasons because they were too far off into the future. Israel had to be reborn before the End Times would start clarifying themselves unto us. Notice, as soon as Israel became a Nation Satan was allowed to reform Europe/Rome (Council of Rome 1956). Psalm 83 happens from 1948 until 210ish, Gog and Magog is on the horizon (Turkey, Iran and Russia attacks Israel). So, just because the early church could not know doesn't mean that these latter times churches can't or will not know.

Edited July 20, 2023 by Revelation Man

[WilliamL]

8 hours ago, Mr. M said:

Acts 1:7 And He said to them,

It is not for you to know times or seasons which the Father has put in His own authority.

Why then have we been given Revelation?

1:3 Blessed is he who reads and those who hear the words of this prophecy,

and keep those things which are written in it; for the time is near.

What does it mean to "keep these words"?

John 14:29 And now I have told you before it comes, that when it does come to pass, you may believe.

To turn the word of prophetic truth into scholarly, theological debate is anathema.

Revelation 22:

18 For I testify to everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: If anyone adds to these things,

God will add to him the plagues that are written in this book; 

19 and if anyone takes away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part

from the Book of Life, from the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.

We are witnesses

Acts 1:8 But you shall receive power when the Holy Spirit has come upon you; and you shall be witnesses to Me

in Jerusalem, and in all Judea and Samaria, and to the end of the earth.

"Occupy until I come"

Matthew 24:14 And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in all the world as a witness to all the nations,

and then the end will come.

Luke 2:19 But Mary kept all these things and pondered them in her heart. 

And your point that ties all these verses is...?

 

Edited July 20, 2023 by WilliamL

[WilliamL]

1 minute ago, Revelation Man said:

just because the early church could not know doesn't mean that these latter times churches can't or will not know.

Agreed.

[Mr. M]

3 minutes ago, WilliamL said:

And your point that ties all these verses is...?

 

My words are between the verses.

[Mr. M]

1 hour ago, AdHoc said:

Revelation will only help marginally. The question was;

6 When they therefore were come together, they asked of him, saying, Lord, wilt thou at this time restore again the kingdom to Israel? 7 And he said unto them, It is not for you to know the times or the seasons, which the Father hath put in his own power. (Act.1:6–7)

In Matthew 21:43, our Lord Jesus informs Israel that although the Kingdom (and the King) were "at hand", He has ripped the Kingdom from Israel. The Kingdom is when Christ, together with diligent and faithful servants will rule the world (Rom.4:13). The question was NOT, "will Israel be restored as a Nation". That is guaranteed by the Promises in the Covenant with Abraham, and the following prophets. But will Israel have this loss of the Kingdom overturned? NO! 12 CHRISTIANS will rule Israel by Tribe, and David, who wrote extensively about the coming Messiah, will be second in the Kingdom of Israel (Jer.30:9).

Israel will be restored to number 1 NATION. But they will never rule the earth.

Your input on these passages that I quoted in another thread would be very helpful!

 

[Mr. M]

34 minutes ago, Shilohsfoal said:

Israel will rule the nations in the Lords land.(,kingdom of heaven)

Isaiah 14:2

And the people shall take them, and bring them to their place: and the house of Israel shall possess them in the land of the LORD for servants and handmaids: and they shall take them captives, whose captives they were; and they shall rule over their oppressors.

 

The remnant of Israel is a special group.They do not worship the beast or it's image or recieve the mark of the beast.They are killed for their witness of Jesus and for the word of God.

They follow the lamb whereever he goes.

Thanks for the response. There are a couple of passages in Micah 4

and Jeremiah 51 that I was considering this week and posted on 

another thread. Would you care to comment? Appreciated.

 

[AdHoc]

10 hours ago, Shilohsfoal said:

Israel will rule the nations in the Lords land.(,kingdom of heaven)

Isaiah 14:2

And the people shall take them, and bring them to their place: and the house of Israel shall possess them in the land of the LORD for servants and handmaids: and they shall take them captives, whose captives they were; and they shall rule over their oppressors.

 

The remnant of Israel is a special group.They do not worship the beast or it's image or recieve the mark of the beast.They are killed for their witness of Jesus and for the word of God.

They follow the lamb whereever he goes.

It is always dangerous to add to God's Word. It has the habit of making things complicated.

Isaiah 14 does not address the Kingdom of Heaven. And to introduce it in the Old Testament is to overthrow scripture. Luke 16:16 says that the first time the Kingdom is preached is by John Baptist. But that is not all. Matthew 13 tells us that Jesus spoke to Israel in Parables so that they would not understand the Kingdom. Verse 44 says that the kingdom is "Hid". Isaiah 14:2 says only what it says; that when Israel are restored to the Lord's Land, they will exercise rulership over any foreigner living in the Land. If you want to apply allegory to the Lord's Land, you must do in also in Hosea 9:3 where the term appears again. But then you have to apply allegory to Egypt and Assyria too. God's Land is Canaan and the Law, under which Israel will still be (Jer.31:31-33), requires that the stranger must be subject to the Law (Ex.12:49).

The Remnant of Israel are not killed. They are sealed so that they are not killed by the Great Tribulation (Rev.7:1-8, 9:4), and when persecuted by the Beast, they flee to a wilderness (Rev.12:17). The Remnant is there to fulfill Deuteronomy 30:1-5. That is, they must "keep the commandments of God" in order to allow God to restore them to their Land.

But they are far from following the Lamb. They hate Him. Romans 11:25 tells us that Israel do not change till the fullness of the Gentiles comes in, and verse 32 concludes ALL in UNBELIEF. There is not a single scripture that even alludes to Israel repenting and believing. Even our Lord said that they would only say "blessed" when He " COMES"! (Matt.23:39)