The end time has different physics?

[FJK]

30 minutes ago, dad2 said:

Explain how the wonderful importance of the cross relates to the issue of when the world changes in nature, whether the tribulation or millennium?

A bit of an oblique question here, but what makes you think the world will change in nature at any point?

I suppose that would be clearer if I knew the meaning of "world" as you're using it in your post.

[dad2]

4 hours ago, farouk said:

What I would say in response is that the glorious Gospel is unchanging: based on faith in the finished work of Christ at the Cross for sinners. The dispensational background may differ from one era to another.

And that has what too do with the millennium or tribulation?

[BeyondET]

On 7/27/2023 at 4:18 PM, dad2 said:

Revelation 16:20

 

And every island fled away, and the mountains were not found

 

We already know that the 1000 year reign of Christ on earth has different realities and a different nature than this present time. People live about 1000 years again as before the flood, spirits dwell on earth with men, plants grow fast, and etc.

 

 One interesting question is whether that change in nature and laws starts before the 1000 years and in the last seven years sometime?

 

The verse above indicates it is already changed when the continents and islands all suddenly move. If that were to happen in this presnet day, I hear immense heat would result, that would probably not allow human life on earth.

I know the Bible says Christ will resign for a 1000 years. But where in the Bible does it say people will live for a 1000 years?

[dad2]

4 hours ago, FJK said:

A bit of an oblique question here, but what makes you think the world will change in nature at any point?

I suppose that would be clearer if I knew the meaning of "world" as you're using it in your post.

In the 1000 year reign of Christ on earth, many differences are cited. Long lifespans etc. Much like the different world of Noah's day. With the laws of nature in place today we die usually around 100 years or less. Trees and plants grow slow today. Spirits are not seen living with us openly and marrying. We also have laws in existence today that result in a lot of friction/heat being created if large landmasses were moved quickly.

[dad2]

Just now, BeyondET said:

I know the Bible says Christ will resign for a 1000 years. But where in the Bible does it say people will live for a 1000 years?

A man dying at a hundred will be considered a child.

[BeyondET]

Just now, dad2 said:

A man dying at a hundred will be considered a child.

Show me the verse not a opinion. And no human has ever lived a 1000 years. The closest any man has come is 969 years.

[dad2]

18 minutes ago, BeyondET said:

Show me the verse not a opinion. And no human has ever lived a 1000 years. The closest any man has come is 969 years.

You are right. So that is almost 1000 years. When Jesus is right here, who knows it might even be a bit better than the 969!?

The verse for a man dying at 1000 being considered extremely young is here.

Isaiah 65:20

"Never again will there be in it an infant who lives but a few days, or an old man who does not live out his years; he who dies at a hundred will be thought a mere youth; he who fails to reach a hundred will be considered accursed.

 

[BeyondET]

26 minutes ago, dad2 said:

You are right. So that is almost 1000 years. When Jesus is right here, who knows it might even be a bit better than the 969!?

The verse for a man dying at 1000 being considered extremely young is here.

Isaiah 65:20

"Never again will there be in it an infant who lives but a few days, or an old man who does not live out his years; he who dies at a hundred will be thought a mere youth; he who fails to reach a hundred will be considered accursed.

 

In the context of Isaiah not just one verse. That will happen when the new heaven and earth arrives. After the 1000 year reign not during the thousand years.

Edited August 23, 2023 by BeyondET

[dad2]

2 hours ago, BeyondET said:

In the context of Isaiah not just one verse. That will happen when the new heaven and earth arrives. After the 1000 year reign not during the thousand years.

Can't be actually. Although it was mentioned in the chapter that He would create a new earth, the part about a man dying is not in the new heaven and earth. Why?

Revelation 21:4

 

And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.

[BeyondET]

5 hours ago, dad2 said:

Can't be actually. Although it was mentioned in the chapter that He would create a new earth, the part about a man dying is not in the new heaven and earth. Why?

Revelation 21:4

 

And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.

Can't be during the 1000 yr reign either, there's no receiving glorified bodies during that time.

And then this happens

Revelation 20

7When the thousand years are complete, Satan will be released from his prison, 8and will go out to deceive the nations in the four corners of the earth—Gog and Magog—to assemble them for battle. Their number is like the sand of the seashore.

Edited August 23, 2023 by BeyondET