Is this Correct Teaching???

[Big Boy Stan Murf]

James 5:19,20

Brethren, if any of you do err from the truth, and one convert him;

Let him know, that he which converteth the sinner from the error of his way shall save a soul from death, and shall hide a multitude of sins.

I have other discussions about this going elsewhere and this utube preacher sent me this verse and says if it were not possible to lose salvation then this verse would not be in the bible at all.

He’s saying this verse is speaking directly to the brethren and is saying it shows that it’s possible for some brethren to err from the truth as in turning away from God

And he says it’s obvious that this verse is saying that erring from the truth makes one a sinner again who is in need of being saved again from death and from their sins.

For those that believe you cannot lose salvation, what say you? 

Edited August 14, 2023 by Stan Murff

[Big Boy Stan Murf]

Matthew 6:14,15

For if ye forgive men their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you:

But if ye forgive not men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses.

 

This same preacher is saying this bible verse is another one that proves it is possible for christians to lose salvation

 

He’s claiming in this verse Jesus is speaking to those that are God’s children because He says “your Heavenly Father”

 

And he says this also shows that sowing and reaping is what God’s Kingdom is built upon and if we sow to the flesh we shall reap unrighteousness as in no longer being in right standing with God.

 

For those that believe you cannot lose salvation, what say you?

Edited August 13, 2023 by Stan Murff

[other one]

I think I posted on one of the first posts you posted about this subject.  It is senseless to go at it again and again.

[BeyondET]

24 minutes ago, Stan Murff said:

James 5:19,20

Brethren, if any of you do err from the truth, and one convert him;

Let him know, that he which converteth the sinner from the error of his way shall save a soul from death, and shall hide a multitude of sins.

I have other discussions about this going elsewhere and this utube preacher sent me this verse and says if it were not possible to lose salvation then this verse would not be in the bible at all.

He’s saying this verse is speaking directly to the brethren and is saying it shows that it’s possible for some brethren to err from the truth as in turning away from God

And he says it’s obvious that this verse is saying that erring from the truth makes one a sinner again who is in need of being saved again from death and from their sins.

For those that believe you cannot lose salvation, what say you? 

The verse is saying, hey brother if you convert someone who is sinning which could be a multitude of things, like is not believing in God a sin?

[Michael37]

25 minutes ago, Stan Murff said:

James 5:19,20

Brethren, if any of you do err from the truth, and one convert him;

Let him know, that he which converteth the sinner from the error of his way shall save a soul from death, and shall hide a multitude of sins.

I have other discussions about this going elsewhere and this utube preacher sent me this verse and says if it were not possible to lose salvation then this verse would not be in the bible at all.

He’s saying this verse is speaking directly to the brethren and is saying it shows that it’s possible for some brethren to err from the truth as in turning away from God

And he says it’s obvious that this verse is saying that erring from the truth makes one a sinner again who is in need of being saved again from death and from their sins.

For those that believe you cannot lose salvation, what say you? 

Are you in the flesh or in the Spirit?

Are you in the Faith or out of it?

These are questions for when we examine ourselves, and for when outsiders enquire.

2Co 13:5  Examine yourselves as to whether you are in the faith. Test yourselves. Do you not know yourselves, that Jesus Christ is in you?—unless indeed you are disqualified.
 

Rom 8:1-11  There is therefore now no condemnation to those who are in Christ Jesus, who do not walk according to the flesh, but according to the Spirit.  (2)  For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus has made me free from the law of sin and death.  (3)  For what the law could not do in that it was weak through the flesh, God did by sending His own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, on account of sin: He condemned sin in the flesh,  (4)  that the righteous requirement of the law might be fulfilled in us who do not walk according to the flesh but according to the Spirit.  (5)  For those who live according to the flesh set their minds on the things of the flesh, but those who live according to the Spirit, the things of the Spirit.  (6)  For to be carnally minded is death, but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.  (7)  Because the carnal mind is enmity against God; for it is not subject to the law of God, nor indeed can be.  (8)  So then, those who are in the flesh cannot please God.  (9)  But you are not in the flesh but in the Spirit, if indeed the Spirit of God dwells in you. Now if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he is not His.  (10)  And if Christ is in you, the body is dead because of sin, but the Spirit is life because of righteousness.  (11)  But if the Spirit of Him who raised Jesus from the dead dwells in you, He who raised Christ from the dead will also give life to your mortal bodies through His Spirit who dwells in you.

[Big Boy Stan Murf]

6 hours ago, BeyondET said:

The verse is saying, hey brother if you convert someone who is sinning which could be a multitude of things, like is not believing in God a sin?

Pretty sure believing in God is not a sin and this is not what this bible verse is saying. 

[Big Boy Stan Murf]

6 hours ago, Michael37 said:

Are you in the flesh or in the Spirit?

Are you in the Faith or out of it?

These are questions for when we examine ourselves, and for when outsiders enquire.

2Co 13:5  Examine yourselves as to whether you are in the faith. Test yourselves. Do you not know yourselves, that Jesus Christ is in you?—unless indeed you are disqualified.
 

Rom 8:1-11  There is therefore now no condemnation to those who are in Christ Jesus, who do not walk according to the flesh, but according to the Spirit.  (2)  For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus has made me free from the law of sin and death.  (3)  For what the law could not do in that it was weak through the flesh, God did by sending His own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, on account of sin: He condemned sin in the flesh,  (4)  that the righteous requirement of the law might be fulfilled in us who do not walk according to the flesh but according to the Spirit.  (5)  For those who live according to the flesh set their minds on the things of the flesh, but those who live according to the Spirit, the things of the Spirit.  (6)  For to be carnally minded is death, but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.  (7)  Because the carnal mind is enmity against God; for it is not subject to the law of God, nor indeed can be.  (8)  So then, those who are in the flesh cannot please God.  (9)  But you are not in the flesh but in the Spirit, if indeed the Spirit of God dwells in you. Now if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he is not His.  (10)  And if Christ is in you, the body is dead because of sin, but the Spirit is life because of righteousness.  (11)  But if the Spirit of Him who raised Jesus from the dead dwells in you, He who raised Christ from the dead will also give life to your mortal bodies through His Spirit who dwells in you.

So you have no comments concerning the 2 bible verses this guy sent me?

That was the question being posted

[Michael37]

6 hours ago, Michael37 said:

For those that believe you cannot lose salvation, what say you? 

@Stan Murff You asked, I answered.

3 minutes ago, Stan Murff said:

So you have no comments concerning the 2 bible verses this guy sent me?

That was the question being posted

Romans 8 covers your query. 

[Michael37]

Is this Correrct Teaching???

 

@Stan Murff Do you want me to correct your spelling?

[Big Boy Stan Murf]

3 minutes ago, Michael37 said:

@Stan Murff You asked, I answered.

Romans 8 covers your query. 

No, you did not specifically comment on the 2 bible verses.

This guy that sent these to me is making a very good argument that christians can actually lose their salvation.

If you think he argument is wrong, why is it wrong?

If you aren't one of the seeming majority on this forum that says it's not possible for christians to lose their salvation, then please disregard.