All About Angels Ron Rhodes

[missmuffet]

I thought this was an interesting presentation to post. But my only question on this presentation is that Ron Rhodes said that Jesus created the angels? I always thought it was God

 

[Justin Adams]

read John one and keep going

[JohnD]

I met Dr. Rhodes almost 30 years ago at C.R.I. with my brother James (we toured the facility that was in Irvine, CA in those days).

Brilliant man.

 

[Retrobyter]

4 hours ago, missmuffet said:

I thought this was an interesting presentation to post. But my only question on this presentation is that Ron Rhodes said that Jesus created the angels? I always thought it was God

Shabbat shalom, missmuffet.

Bro. Rhodes quoted Colossians 1:

Colossians 1:1-20 (KJV)

1 Paul, an apostle of Jesus Christ by the will of God, and Timotheus our brother, 2 To the saints and faithful brethren in Christ which are at Colosse: Grace be unto you, and peace, from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ.

3 We give thanks to God and the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, praying always for you, 4 Since we heard of your faith in Christ Jesus, and of the love which ye have to all the saints, 5 For the hope which is laid up for you in heaven, whereof ye heard before in the word of the truth of the gospel; 6 Which is come unto you, as it is in all the world; and bringeth forth fruit, as it doth also in you, since the day ye heard of it, and knew the grace of God in truth: 7 As ye also learned of Epaphras our dear fellowservant, who is for you a faithful minister of Christ; 8 Who also declared unto us your love in the Spirit.

9 For this cause we also, since the day we heard it, do not cease to pray for you, and to desire that ye might be filled with the knowledge of his will in all wisdom and spiritual understanding; 10 That ye might walk worthy of the Lord unto all pleasing, being fruitful in every good work, and increasing in the knowledge of God; 11 Strengthened with all might, according to his glorious power, unto all patience and longsuffering with joyfulness; 12 Giving thanks unto the Father, which hath made us meet to be partakers of the inheritance of the saints in light:

13 Who hath delivered us from the power of darkness, and hath translated us into the kingdom of his dear Son: 14 In whom we have redemption through his blood, even the forgiveness of sins:

15 Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature: 16 For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him: 17 And he is before all things, and by him all things consist. 18 And he is the head of the body, the church: who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead; that in all things he might have the preeminence. 19 For it pleased the Father that in him should all fulness dwell; 20 And, having made peace through the blood of his cross, by him to reconcile all things unto himself; by him, I say, whether they be things in earth, or things in heaven.

[missmuffet]

I don't buy the fact that Jesus Christ created the angels. God created all things and that includes the angels.

[angels4u]

for by Him all things were created, both in the heavens and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones, or dominions, or rulers, or authorities—all things have been created through Him and for Him.1 Cor.1:16

 

[angels4u]

I listened to the whole video this morning, love it! Thanks for posting!

[Wayne222]

On 9/30/2023 at 3:58 PM, missmuffet said:

I don't buy the fact that Jesus Christ created the angels. God created all things and that includes the angels.

Jesus is God. God is a trinity. It says he created all things through Christ 

[Guest AFlameOfFire]

On 9/30/2023 at 4:58 PM, missmuffet said:

I don't buy the fact that Jesus Christ created the angels. God created all things and that includes the angels.

Heres a few verses

Hebrews 1:1 God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets,

Hebrews 1:2 Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds

John 1:10 He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not.

Paul says,

Ephes 3:8 Unto me, who am less than the least of all saints, is this grace given, that I should preach among the Gentiles the unsearchable  riches of Christ;

Ephes 3:9 And to make all men see what is the fellowship of the mystery, which from the beginning of the world hath been hid in God, who created all things by Jesus Christ

And here also it says,

Col 1:16 For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:

Col 1:17 And he is before all things, and by him all things consist

Col 1:18 And he is the head of the body, the church: who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead; that in all things he might have the preeminence.

Edited October 2, 2023 by AFlameOfFire