Revisting Eze 38 and 39 - When?

[Shilohsfoal]

8 minutes ago, dad2 said:

If there are no places that are walled why mentioned unwalled places?

Yes they have weapons in the Eze invasion.

Ezekiel 39:9

 

And they that dwell in the cities of Israel shall go forth, and shall set on fire and burn the weapons, both the shields and the bucklers, the bows and the arrows, and the handstaves, and the spears, and they shall burn them with fire seven years:

 

So many it will take seven years to burn them!! You are not even close.

 

 

Eze states explicitly they have swords you are not even close again.

Ezekiel 38:4

 

And I will turn thee back, and put hooks into thy jaws, and I will bring thee forth, and all thine army, horses and horsemen, all of them clothed with all sorts of armour, even a great company with bucklers and shields, all of them handling swords:

 

In fact they ALL have swords!!!!

 

Don't waste our time with fringe foolishness that is off topic.

Israel didn't have weapons before Gog brings them.Istael does not need weapons ,walls or fences.

When Gog invades the land of Israel after the millinium,there are no walls just as the word of ,God says.

 

⁸ After many days thou shalt be visited: in the latter years thou shalt come into the land that is brought back from the sword, and is gathered out of many people, against the mountains of Israel, which have been always waste: but it is brought forth out of the nations, and they shall dwell safely all of them.

⁹ Thou shalt ascend and come like a storm, thou shalt be like a cloud to cover the land, thou, and all thy bands, and many people with thee.

¹⁰ Thus saith the Lord God; It shall also come to pass, that at the same time shall things come into thy mind, and thou shalt think an evil thought:

¹¹ And thou shalt say, I will go up to the land of unwalled villages; I will go to them that are at rest, that dwell safely, all of them dwelling without walls, and having neither bars nor gates

 

 

Israel is a land that has no walls when Gog invades after the millinium.

[Shilohsfoal]

2 minutes ago, other one said:

Keep it on the subject and not each other if you want your posts available to everyone

For some reason this person denies what the word says.I enlarge the words for them to see but they still can't seem to see it.

 

For instance

¹¹ And thou shalt say, I will go up to the land of unwalled villages; I will go to them that are at rest, that dwell safely, all of them dwelling without walls, and having neither bars nor gates

 

 

 

[dad2]

Just now, Shilohsfoal said:

Israel didn't have weapons before Gog brings them.Istael does not need weapons ,walls or fences.

When Gog invades the land of Israel after the millinium,there are no walls just as the word of ,God says.

Who says anyone can beat plowshares back to swords when God is ruling the earth? Not the bible! No swords were mentioned in Rev 20 as you were shown. Swords and tons of them were totally involved in the Eze invasion.

Your claim that the people living in peace were eternal is also nonsensical. You think some king in the rule of Jesus would have weapons and then try to attack spirits with them?

[other one]

14 minutes ago, dad2 said:

Don't waste our time with fringe foolishness that is off topic.

Is that really necessary.   Kind of just stirs up feelings to cause personal conflict.

[dad2]

Just now, other one said:

Is that really necessary.   Kind of just stirs up feelings to cause personal conflict.

You may have a point

[Shilohsfoal]

3 minutes ago, dad2 said:

Who says anyone can beat plowshares back to swords when God is ruling the earth? Not the bible! No swords were mentioned in Rev 20 as you were shown. Swords and tons of them were totally involved in the Eze invasion.

Your claim that the people living in peace were eternal is also nonsensical. You think some king in the rule of Jesus would have weapons and then try to attack spirits with them?

No one said Gog had beat his plowshares into swords.

I said Israel had.You know where Christ is at the time Gog Invadess after the millinium.

 

⁶ Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.

⁷ And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,

⁸ And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog, and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.

⁹ And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.

 

 

What makes you think Israel needs swords for after the millinium?

Edited October 9, 2023 by Shilohsfoal

[dad2]

Just now, Shilohsfoal said:

No one said Gog had beat his plowshares into swords.

I said Israel had.You know where Christ is at the time Gog Invadess after the millinium.

You mean those people you say were 'eternal'? Now they have swords? Anyhow we will disagree. Your opinion was heard.

 

The thread centers around the time of the tribulation. The question is before or after or during. Not centuries and centuries before or after, thanks

[Shilohsfoal]

Just now, other one said:

let me make it blunt then:     

Personal statements like this is not allowed.   There are people here who have to have every one of thier posts approved because they will not stop such things.   I'm just trying to keep you out of that category and saving me the time of approving your posts

Ok,I will try to behave mysrlf a little better since you put it that way.Ive never liked time out.

[Shilohsfoal]

Just now, dad2 said:

You mean those people you say were 'eternal'? Now they have swords? Anyhow we will disagree. Your opinion was heard.

 

The thread centers around the time of the tribulation. The question is before or after or during. Not centuries and centuries before or after, thanks

So you claim Gog has eternal life.

If Gog has eternal life as you claim then he wouldnt be getting buried as scripture says he will.

 

[Shilohsfoal]

6 minutes ago, dad2 said:

You mean those people you say were 'eternal'? Now they have swords? Anyhow we will disagree. Your opinion was heard.

 

The thread centers around the time of the tribulation. The question is before or after or during. Not centuries and centuries before or after, thanks

The tribulation of the saints takes place over 1000 years before Gog invades the land of Israel.The saints had already been put to death during the tribulation .Then they are resurected and reign with Christ for 1000 years before Gog ever comes to Israel.

So are you talking about the saints tribulation,or Gogs?

Gogs tribulation would be 1000 years after the saints tribulation.

 

⁴ And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.

⁵ But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.

⁶ Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.

⁷ And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,

 

⁸ And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog, and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.

⁹ And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.

Edited October 9, 2023 by Shilohsfoal