Israel has been attacking Gaza for decades

[WilliamL]

3 hours ago, jamesdyson said:

Israel’s true history

Palestinian territory – encompassing the Gaza Strip and West Bank, including East Jerusalem – has been illegally occupied by Israel since 1967.

So tell us, who deeded the land to the Palestinians to make it theirs? (Certainly not the Turks, who owned nearly all of it up until 1917, having sold little of it -- and much of that to the Jews -- and leased most of it.)

[Dennis1209]

I will not jump into the fray of defending Israel; that is what God does, I pray for the peace of Israel and bless them. I certainly would not use Wikipedia as a reliable source of unbiased information.

This hatred of the Jews goes back to antiquity. Today, the Muslims and Arabs will settle for nothing less than the genocide of the Jews, as officially stated by their representatives, to drive them all into the sea.

The historical facts have been twisted like a pretzel.  

[Diaste]

16 hours ago, jamesdyson said:

Israel’s true history

Palestinian territory – encompassing the Gaza Strip and West Bank, including East Jerusalem – has been illegally occupied by Israel since 1967. Since then, the Israeli government has established a two-tiered legal and political system that provides comprehensive rights for Jewish Israeli settlers while imposing military rule and control on Palestinians without any basic protections or rights under international law. The Israeli government has also engaged in a regular practice of inhumane acts, as well as extrajudicial killings, torture, denial of fundamental human rights, arbitrary detention and collective punishment. The UN

According to a March 2022 report by the UN Special Rapporteur on the situation of human rights in the OPT, Israel’s political system of entrenched rule in the OPT satisfies the prevailing evidentiary standard for the crime of apartheid. The Special Rapporteur determined in July 2021 that Israel’s occupation since 1967 has been characterized by settlement expansion that aims to permanently alter the ethnic demographics of East Jerusalem and amounts to a war crime. The UN Security Council (UNSC) previously adopted a resolution in December 2016 reaffirming that Israeli settlements in the OPT violate international law. The CoI reached similar conclusions in September 2022, reporting that the Israeli government’s policies and actions have led to the permanent occupation and de facto annexation of Palestinian territory, likely constituting crimes under international law, including war crimes. Both the CoI and Special Rapporteur have reported that this ongoing coercive environment has prevented Palestinians from fulfilling their right to self-determination and other fundamental human rights. In December 2022 the UN General Assembly requested the International Court of Justice to give an advisory opinion on the legal consequences of Israel’s ongoing occupation.

Palestinians are regularly subjected to violence by Israeli settlers, including physical attacks, shooting with live ammunition, torching of fields and livestock, theft and vandalization of property. Israeli security forces also perpetrate widespread attacks against Palestinians, particularly in occupied territory, which often lead to deadly escalations, including regular aerial bombardments of the Gaza Strip. According to the UN Office for the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs (OCHA) and the Office of the High Commissioner for Human Rights (OHCHR), 2022 was the deadliest year for Palestinians residing in the Occupied West Bank, including East Jerusalem, since 2005, with over 150 Palestinians, including 26 children, killed by Israeli security forces.

Meanwhile, Israel’s air, sea and land blockade of Gaza has been in place since 2007

The CoI concluded that the Israeli government has restricted civic space through a strategy of delegitimizing and silencing civil society, which is linked to its goal of maintaining permanent occupation at the expense of the rights of the Palestinian people.

https://www.globalr2p.org/countries/israel-and-the-occupied-palestinian-territory/

You cited the UN. The UN has an unnatural bias against Israel, but other than than that is generally useless to the rest of the world. 

The reports always leave out the danger of the terrorist organizations that rule the West Bank and Gaza and the violence they perpetrate against Israeli citizens. 

All one sided reports are a pack of lies.

[WilliamL]

On 11/26/2023 at 5:36 PM, Dennis1209 said:

Today, the Muslims and Arabs will settle for nothing less than the genocide of the Jews, as officially stated by their representatives, to drive them all into the sea.

The End Times genocide of the Jews is called for in the Koran.

[other one]

On 11/23/2023 at 3:18 PM, jamesdyson said:

Israel has been attacking Gaza for decades, trying to ethnically cleans the land for Zion settlements

No, trying to keep them from shooting missiles into Israel, killing civilians.   They don't want to cleanse the land of Palestinians, just keep Hamas from killing Israelis.   

[other one]

@jamesdyson

 

[WilliamL]

20 hours ago, other one said:

@jamesdyson

 

Would that we had even a few straight-talking leaders like this.

Course, he is not a Saudi leader either...

[other one]

1 hour ago, WilliamL said:

Would that we had even a few straight-talking leaders like this.

Course, he is not a Saudi leader either...

I am finding that a lot of people pay a bit more attention to him than they do me.   It aggravates me to say that, but it is so.  

[Shilohsfoal]

On 11/23/2023 at 4:18 PM, jamesdyson said:

 

Israel has been attacking Gaza for decades, trying to ethnically cleans the land for Zion settlements

Timeline: Israel’s attacks on Gaza since 2005

This is the latest assault by Israel on Gaza since the 11-day war in May 2021 killed hundreds and wounded thousands.

https://tinyurl.com/mrxuun7a

Effects of the Gaza War (2008–2009)

There are multiple humanitarian, medical, economic, and industrial effects of the 2008–2009 Gaza War which started with the Israeli air strikes on 27 December 2008 and ended on 18 January with a cease-fire implemented unilaterally by Israel, and later the same day by Hamas and other Palestinian factions. The cease-fire followed twenty-two days of bombardment by land, sea and air which left over 1,300 Palestinians dead and over 5,000 injured, and the death of 13 Israelis. The United Nations Development Programme warned that there will be long-term consequences of the attacks on Gaza because the livelihoods and assets of tens of thousands of Gaza civilians have been affected

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Effects_of_the_Gaza_War_(2008%E2%80%932009)

The 2014 Gaza War, also known as Operation Protective Edge (Hebrew: מִבְצָע צוּק אֵיתָן, romanized: Miv'tza Tzuk Eitan, lit. 'Operation Strong Cliff'), was a military operation launched by Israel on 8 July 2014 in the Gaza Strip, a Palestinian territory that has been governed by Hamas since 2007. Following the kidnapping and murder of three Israeli teenagers in the West Bank by Hamas-affiliated Palestinian militants, the Israel Defense Forces (IDF) initiated Operation Brother's Keeper, in which some 350 Palestinians, including nearly all of the active Hamas militants in the West Bank, were arrested. Hamas subsequently fired a greater number of rockets into Israel from the Gaza Strip,

The Israeli military operation aimed to stop rocket fire into Israel from the Gaza Strip.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_Gaza_War

According to scripture,it is not Israel that is smiting the Palestinians.

It is the king of Babylon .

 

 

²⁹ Rejoice not thou, whole Palestina, because the rod of him that smote thee is broken: for out of the serpent's root shall come forth a cockatrice, and his fruit shall be a fiery flying serpent.

³⁰ And the firstborn of the poor shall feed, and the needy shall lie down in safety: and I will kill thy root with famine, and he shall slay thy remnant.

³¹ Howl, O gate; cry, O city; thou, whole Palestina, art dissolved: for there shall come from the north a smoke, and none shall be alone in his appointed times.

³² What shall one then answer the messengers of the nation? That the Lord hath founded Zion, and the poor of his people shall trust in it.

 

 

 

I'm convinced this constant smiting with a perpetual stroke is a big reason the nations ,including the Medes,destroy Babylon.

But after Babylon does fall,that land will be consumed and Zion will be founded 

 

Don't be surprised by the people you see worshiping the beast of Babylon.They have been decieved into believing they support the king of Israel.

[Desopixi Seilynam]

On 11/26/2023 at 12:08 PM, FJK said:

Illegal to whom?  God or man?

Choose today who you will serve - and receive the rewards and consequences of that choice (if you're not sure what they will be, you can find the answers in the Bible).

Circumcise therefore the foreskin of your hearts.... love ye therefore the stranger.
Deuteronomy 10:16-19

The stranger that dwells among you shall be as one born among you and you shall love him as yourself,
I am the Lord your God.
Leviticus 19:33-34

If you meet your enemies donkey or ox going a stray,
you shall surely give it back to him.
If you see someone that hates you struggling with his burden,
you shall surely help him with it.
Exodus 23:4-5

You shall not oppress a stranger,
seeing you were strangers in the land of Israel.
Exodus 23:9

Son of man, thy brethren, even thy kindred,
are they unto whom the inhabitants of Jerusalem have said,
get you far from the Lord, unto us is this land given in possession.
Ezekiel 11:15

I will be a swift witness against... false swearers...
and them that turn aside the stranger from his right.
Malachi 3:5

 

Because he is not a Jew which is one outwardly...
circumcision is that of the heart.

The land was given to Jacob not Esau,
but the Bible tells us that Esau would be ruling in Zion at the end.

And describes what Esau will do in the land.
 

You should not have gloated over your brother in the day that he became a stranger.

You should not have entered into the gates of my people.

You should not have stood in the crossroads
to cut off those of his that did escape
you should not have made captive those of his that did remain.

For the day of the Lord is near.

Deliverers shall come up on mount Zion,
to judge the mount of Esau,
and the kingdom shall be the Lords.

Obadiah 1:12,13,14,15,21

 

Since 1967 literal military checkpoints at and on many various crossroads in Israel have made some captive,
(like those in the Gaza strip who have had only 1 military checkpoint as a way in and out, since 1967)
and restricted tourism and returns to other areas, making them effect ghost towns.
 

Obadiah prophesied about it, making it clear who is who.

Many in Israel will plainly tell you that Zionism is not Judaism, the other day I saw a video
of some religious Jews, in Israel, being violently harassed by the police
simply because they expressed that there should be a ceasefire
and that the Palestinians should not be mistreated.

Anyone sincerely studying the Torah itself
would see the above commands, and they do, plenty in Israel are circumcised,
whether they descend from Esau or Jacob matters little, a circumcision of the heart;
love for even those considered strangers, is what matters.

But Zionism originates from people who actually descend from Esau and not Jacob,
the Bible speaks of all this, we can see Obadiah 1:21 and Revelation 3:9.