Born Again And Born Again Scripture.

[Debp]

13 hours ago, LisaLola said:

The thing is though Debp, I wasn’t Born Again by reading God’s word and I can only go by Gods word that he speaks to my heart..my testimony is scriptural, yet, many disagree with my testimony, that’s fine..I can’t be told by others how to be Born Again...I know how I was Born Again of the Spirit and it can never be erased from my heart/ spirit..I hope you understand this @Debp....I had a mind blowing rebirth..that God revealed himself to me via his Spirit.he testified with my spirit that I was his child.that blew my mind. 

We have eternal security once we have been Born Again of imperishable seed..that is my belief.

I understand what you are saying.   There are others who have had such conversion (born again) experiences.... hardly any Bible knowledge but the Lord came into their lives in a dramatic way.

Not everyone comes to the Lord in the same way.

Someone told me they found peace with God through accepting Christ as their Savior.    Sometime later I prayed for forgiveness and asked the Lord into my heart/life.   And instantly I had peace in my heart and knew Christ was in me by the Holy Spirit.

Of course, I then started reading the Bible and learning more to grow spiritually.

[LisaLola]

9 minutes ago, Debp said:

I understand what you are saying.   There are others who have had such conversion (born again) experiences.... hardly any Bible knowledge but the Lord came into their lives in a dramatic way.

9 minutes ago, Debp said:

Not everyone comes to the Lord in the same way.

Someone told me they found peace with God through accepting Christ as their Savior.    Sometime later I prayed for forgiveness and asked the Lord into my heart/life.   And instantly I had peace in my heart and knew Christ was in me by the Holy Spirit.

Of course, I then started reading the Bible and learning more to grow spiritually.

Yes, we must read Gods word to grow in spiritual knowledge, as it’s a spiritual book,( Gods Living word) only to be understood in the Spirit.

Even if we never read his word, we would never die as we have been Born Again of imperishable seed.....without reading his word, we would just never grow....yet, we would still have that eternal security.....which can only come from the Living word of God.

Edited January 13, 2024 by LisaLola

[kwikphilly]

I've been away all day- many pages to get caught up on....is this discussion still going?

[LisaLola]

2 hours ago, kwikphilly said:

I've been away all day- many pages to get caught up on....is this discussion still going?

Hi Kwik, I personally think @FreeGrace and myself need to end our discussion, as I will never agree with what he says to me, and he certainly doesn’t agree with my testimony....it’s the forcing what he believes onto me, it’s not of God Sis.i can only be led by the Holy Spirit, I can’t take on board any other name, other than the name and teachings of Jesus....Gods Son, Jesus was God in the flesh, ....best we stop now don’t you agree?..xoxoxo.

edit to add...not asking you to take sides Kwik, just that the two of us should call it a day?

Thank you @kwikphilly....your input is appreciated.

Edited January 13, 2024 by LisaLola

[LisaLola]

Galatians 5:22-26

 

²²But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, ²³gentleness and self-control. Against such things there is no law. ²⁴Those who belong to Christ Jesus have crucified the sinful nature with its passions and desires. ²⁵Since we live by the Spirit, let us keep in step with the Spirit. ²⁶Let us not become conceited, provoking and envying each other.

[LisaLola]

◄ John 15 ►

Berean Standard Bible  Par ▾  Jesus the True Vine (Isaiah 27:1–13) 1“I am the true vine, and My Father is the keeper of the vineyard. 2He cuts off every branch in Me that bears no fruit, and every branch that does bear fruit, He prunes to make it even more fruitful. 3You are already clean because of the word I have spoken to you. 4Remain in Me, and I will remain in you. Just as no branch can bear fruit by itself unless it remains in the vine, neither can you bear fruit unless you remain in Me. 5I am the vine and you are the branches. The one who remains in Me, and I in him, will bear much fruit. For apart from Me you can do nothing. 6If anyone does not remain in Me, he is like a branch that is thrown away and withers. Such branches are gathered up, thrown into the fire, and burned. 7If you remain in Me and My words remain in you, ask whatever you wish, and it will be done for you. 8This is to My Father’s glory, that you bear much fruit, proving yourselves to be My disciples. No Greater Love 9As the Father has loved Me, so have I loved you. Remain in My love. 10If you keep My commandments, you will remain in My love, just as I have kept My Father’s commandments and remain in His love. 11I have told you these things so that My joy may be in you and your joy may be complete. 12This is My commandment, that you love one another as I have loved you.13Greater love has no one than this, that he lay down his life for his friends. 14You are My friends if you do what I command you. 15No longer do I call you servants, for a servant does not understand what his master is doing. But I have called you friends, because everything I have learned from My Father I have made known to you. 16You did not choose Me, but I chose you. And I appointed you to go and bear fruit—fruit that will remain—so that whatever you ask the Father in My name, He will give you. 17This is My command to you: Love one another. The Hatred of the World 18If the world hates you, understand that it hated Me first. 19If you were of the world, it would love you as its own. Instead, the world hates you, because you are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world. 20Remember the word that I spoke to you: ‘No servant is greater than his master.’a If they persecuted Me, they will persecute you as well; if they kept My word, they will keep yours as well. 21But they will treat you like this because of My name, since they do not know the One who sent Me. 22If I had not come and spoken to them, they would not be guilty of sin. Now, however, they have no excuse for their sin. 23Whoever hates Me hates My Father as well. 24If I had not done among them the works that no one else did, they would not be guilty of sin; but now they have seen and hated both Me and My Father. 25But this is to fulfill what is written in their Law: ‘They hated Me without reason.’b 26When the Advocatec comes, whom I will send to you from the Father—the Spirit of truth who proceeds from the Father—He will testify about Me. 27And you also must testify, because you have been with Me from the beginning.   I love this scripture, we remain in the true vine because God grafted us in, when we became Born Again, ..God is so true to his word....he does exactly as his word says above...,Praise God!

Edited January 13, 2024 by LisaLola

[kwikphilly]

2 hours ago, LisaLola said:

Hi Kwik, I personally think @FreeGrace and myself need to end our discussion, as I will never agree with what he says to me, and he certainly doesn’t agree with my testimony....it’s the forcing what he believes onto me, it’s not of God Sis.i can only be led by the Holy Spirit, I can’t take on board any other name, other than the name and teachings of Jesus....Gods Son, Jesus was God in the flesh, ....best we stop now don’t you agree?..xoxoxo.

edit to add...not asking you to take sides Kwik, just that the two of us should call it a day?

Thank you @kwikphilly....your input is appreciated.

I would not take sides- I love Brother Free Grace and he has a good solid Doctrine - I've had quite a few conversations with you as well and I do " get you" and I Believe I Understand YOUR Testimony - often times people( yrs,Brothers & Sisters in Christ) speak,write and give analogies very different than each other- from what I've read I think your BOTH having a difficult time communicating at should both refrain and simply TRY to hear one another - not every single post( tagging us ) or quoting us needs a reply,it's unwarranted and leads to discord

Why is it I can talk to our Brother for pages & pages and even where we disagree there's no disharmony and it's exactly the same when I have pages & pages of Discussion with you? " Take captive our thoughts' - that's why.

I agree dear Sister and I'm sure FreeGrace will as well- it's time to chill out and perhaps revisit later and try to relate- some are very well read,I'll give you an example too

You speak a lot about the imperishable seed- now if anyone is a KJV studier they will say" that's not what the Bible Says,it's incorruptible seed" and there behind a dispute over TAMAHTOE/TOMATOE- sounds so silly, doesnt it?

 

But semantics and analogies can become a point of contention when speaking with someone who is very Scriptural,if you get my jist- now I don't know exactly why there's obvious discord but I do know we have a common enemy and it is not each other,we are on the same side of this constant Spiritual battle

So let's take a nice break and Praise the Lord!

Glory to God Most High- we are to Represent our Lord & Savior in LOVE

With love in Christ,Kwik

[kwikphilly]

31 minutes ago, LisaLola said:

◄ John 15 ►

Berean Standard Bible  Par ▾  Jesus the True Vine (Isaiah 27:1–13) 1“I am the true vine, and My Father is the keeper of the vineyard. 2He cuts off every branch in Me that bears no fruit, and every branch that does bear fruit, He prunes to make it even more fruitful. 3You are already clean because of the word I have spoken to you. 4Remain in Me, and I will remain in you. Just as no branch can bear fruit by itself unless it remains in the vine, neither can you bear fruit unless you remain in Me. 5I am the vine and you are the branches. The one who remains in Me, and I in him, will bear much fruit. For apart from Me you can do nothing. 6If anyone does not remain in Me, he is like a branch that is thrown away and withers. Such branches are gathered up, thrown into the fire, and burned. 7If you remain in Me and My words remain in you, ask whatever you wish, and it will be done for you. 8This is to My Father’s glory, that you bear much fruit, proving yourselves to be My disciples. No Greater Love 9As the Father has loved Me, so have I loved you. Remain in My love. 10If you keep My commandments, you will remain in My love, just as I have kept My Father’s commandments and remain in His love. 11I have told you these things so that My joy may be in you and your joy may be complete. 12This is My commandment, that you love one another as I have loved you.13Greater love has no one than this, that he lay down his life for his friends. 14You are My friends if you do what I command you. 15No longer do I call you servants, for a servant does not understand what his master is doing. But I have called you friends, because everything I have learned from My Father I have made known to you. 16You did not choose Me, but I chose you. And I appointed you to go and bear fruit—fruit that will remain—so that whatever you ask the Father in My name, He will give you. 17This is My command to you: Love one another. The Hatred of the World 18If the world hates you, understand that it hated Me first. 19If you were of the world, it would love you as its own. Instead, the world hates you, because you are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world. 20Remember the word that I spoke to you: ‘No servant is greater than his master.’a If they persecuted Me, they will persecute you as well; if they kept My word, they will keep yours as well. 21But they will treat you like this because of My name, since they do not know the One who sent Me. 22If I had not come and spoken to them, they would not be guilty of sin. Now, however, they have no excuse for their sin. 23Whoever hates Me hates My Father as well. 24If I had not done among them the works that no one else did, they would not be guilty of sin; but now they have seen and hated both Me and My Father. 25But this is to fulfill what is written in their Law: ‘They hated Me without reason.’b 26When the Advocatec comes, whom I will send to you from the Father—the Spirit of truth who proceeds from the Father—He will testify about Me. 27And you also must testify, because you have been with Me from the beginning.   I love this scripture, we remain in the true vine because God grafted us in, when we became Born Again, ..God is so true to his word....he does exactly as his word says above...,Praise God!

Yes- let us Praise our Glorious Lord God!

[kwikphilly]

35 minutes ago, LisaLola said:

Galatians 5:22-26

 

²²But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, ²³gentleness and self-control. Against such things there is no law. ²⁴Those who belong to Christ Jesus have crucified the sinful nature with its passions and desires. ²⁵Since we live by the Spirit, let us keep in step with the Spirit. ²⁶Let us not become conceited, provoking and envying each other.

Amen!

[LisaLola]

4 minutes ago, kwikphilly said:

Amen!

Amen! Xoxoxo.