"We accept Christ - then get a bunch of rules to follow"

[Know Jah]

The New Commandment, Why was it New?

[Neighbor]

On 2/8/2024 at 5:15 PM, Marathoner said:

Who among us would have known to forgive the adulterous woman? She was not only guilty in our eyes, but she was deserving of the punishment demanded by the Law. Ah, but the Giver of the Law Himself released her from the penalty. This is what I'm talking about. Walking in His Spirit, the Lord would speak, saying, "Forgive her, and let her go."

Without rules of God's Holiness who among us would even know to condemn her in the first place?

 I think it is most important to be aware of what Yeshua followed up with. Let whomever is without sin cast the first stone ( The stoning to kill the offender). To condemn another is to put self at risk of judgement  under the same  punishment death.

BUT that does not eliminate rules, it reinforces that they exist! It also tells each  of us of our own plight, that each are sinner unacceptable in the sight of Holy God and in need of reconciliation with God less we die the eternal death of separation from God.

There are rules, a bunch of them, and it is a good thing God makes them known to us, along with his only, sole, solution for our failure to follow all the rules perfectly as to be holy  as God is Holy.

That solution is His Son the passover Lamb that covers those violations of the rules. Jesus do id not sacrifice upon a tree because therewere no rules of God. He fulfilled them when  he reconciled our account before His Father.

Jesus did not do so,  that I may sin all the more,  that grace may abound.

Yes there are rules and it is important  even virtual to know them in order to have appreciation of God's mercy from everlasting to everlasting. What one is unable to do is comply with them  perfectly! But God has worked that up for those he has foreknown and predestined  to be with him eternally, those he has given to his son  who paid the price of sin that many may be with him eternally, seen as being white as snow in God the Father's sight.

If there are no rules no standard of Holiness, instead  only one's own conscience, then why the sacrifice on the cross by God's Son?

No there are rules, lots of them. It is wise to learn as many as one might comprehend. And don't be angry! Nothing is so silly as an angry Christian, one saved out from destruction by the calling and the indwelling by the Holy Spirit and then living anger-ly .

Love God love His mercy, respect his rules. Love one another- do not get angry, and take offense at one another. Seek out God's good guidance and care doing all that one does to the glory of God alone.

 

[Know Jah]

We live in a age that nobody want to follow rules. They want to do their own thing

[Vine Abider]

12 minutes ago, Know Jah said:

We live in a age that nobody want to follow rules. They want to do their own thing

That's pretty much Adam, and that rebelliousness culminates in "the lawless one."

[Scott Free]

44 minutes ago, Know Jah said:

We live in a age that nobody want to follow rules. They want to do their own thing

It seems during the 60's everyone unanimously decided teaching children character and proper behavior would no longer be a thing. Thanks Boomers, we are harvesting the fruits of your labor. It is a shame we lack the foundation, having to learn these habits as adults.

Edited February 13, 2024 by Scott Free

[RdJ]

4 hours ago, Scott Free said:

It seems during the 60's everyone unanimously decided teaching children character and proper behavior would no longer be a thing. Thanks Boomers, we are harvesting the fruits of your labor. It is a shame we lack the foundation, having to learn these habits as adults.

If you do one extreme you get the other extreme as a reaction. One Indian comedian said: We were only taught to obey and follow rules. Not how to give someone else rules.

[Vine Abider]

10 hours ago, Know Jah said:

We live in a age that nobody want to follow rules. They want to do their own thing

 

10 hours ago, Vine Abider said:

That's pretty much Adam, and that rebelliousness culminates in "the lawless one."

Let me expand on that a little - by letting Christ live through us, we will keep the laws, including the highest law of loving God and others.  So Christ living in us and through us will fulfill the law (and most rules) in the very best way; but just keeping rules, without the life of Christ operating in us, is ultimately profitless. 

It's a matter of source. 

[Marathoner]

36 minutes ago, Vine Abider said:

 

Let me expand on that a little - by letting Christ live through us, we will keep the laws, including the highest law of loving God and others.  So Christ living in us and through us will fulfill the law (and most rules) in the very best way; but just keeping rules, without the life of Christ operating in us, is ultimately profitless. 

It's a matter of source. 

It's all in how things are framed, yes?

Are we called according to the blessing, or are we called to abstain from this and that? Does the Lord encourage us, or does He berate us? Does the Lord teach us to rise to our feet if we stumble and fall, or does He thrash us for falling in the first place?

The Lord lifts us up, He never tears us down. Throughout the paragraph above one is the way of the Lord, and the other is the discipline of man. It's easy to discern the difference. We stand or fall by Jesus Christ, and He is able to make us stand. Entirely scriptural.

It's quite a sight to witness how many presume to assume the role of the Lord, especially where their neighbor is concerned. 

Edited February 14, 2024 by Marathoner

[Marathoner]

10 hours ago, Know Jah said:

We live in a age that nobody want to follow rules. They want to do their own thing

This has been said by the older generation about the younger generation over, and over again. It's always been that way, my friend. As @Vine Abider accurately points out, this is the legacy of Adam. 

[Sower]

12 hours ago, Scott Free said:

It seems during the 60's everyone unanimously decided teaching children character and proper behavior would no longer be a thing. Thanks Boomers, we are harvesting the fruits of your labor. It is a shame we lack the foundation, having to learn these habits as adults.

                       "everyone unanimously decided"

       Thanks Boomers, we are harvesting the fruits of your labor.

God hold's you, Scott, responsible four actions, sins, not me or anybody else. You really should not group everyone unanimously  deciding anything, as I doubt you wouldn't know even one percent of them.

I was from that generation, from teenager to adult. And we had parents that made it through the Great depression and a World War, and we were raised to be tough and how to work or go without. There was simply no money to spoil us, and we were poor by today's 'wealthy' standards, but everybody was poor, and we didn't know it.

I was married a couple of years after the sixties and we raised a family from then on, and today have a dozen grand kids, believers all. Our kids all knew how to work as we taught them they would have to work if they needed wanted anything beyond room and board. They worked and bought their own cars/insurance, paid their own college tuition. It's called the work ethic, not well known today.

It is natural for a parent to want to give to their children what they didn't have growing up. Every generation does. Since the draft dodgers from the 60-70's  Viet Nam war fled to Canada and years later came back, they filled the colleges and university with their socialistic agenda that has increased to the government run public schools teaching Values Clarification (changing morals-ethics) known as situational ethics by psychologists. Many Public school graduates can not even read. I know because I have employed them.

So let us know how well your generation does when the time comes. Or has it already happened. Which generation are your children in?......

Thanks Scott.