Will you vote Trump?

[SavedByGrace1980]

On 3/9/2024 at 10:19 PM, SavedByGrace1981 said:

I voted for Trump in 2016. and in 2020 and likely will again in 2024 if he's a candidate. Consider who he was running against in those elections

I've always been conservative and I try to consider the most conservate option of the ones available. Unfortunately and contrary to popular belief, that isn't always the R candidate.  It's never the D candidate. So in elecions like in 08 and 12 I voted 3rd party. 

In 16 and 20 the most conservative was DJT so he got my vote.

My son said, "Dad, how can you vote for a man with Trumps moral baggage?"

Son, we're voting for a US president - not a preacher or a priest

 

The only thing I would add to what I wrote back in March is " . . .nor are we voting for a Savior.  There's only One of Those. 

[Still Alive]

16 hours ago, other one said:

Exactly! 

[other one]

3 hours ago, Neighbor said:

Wow I do think that to be a very poor representation of Christianity; basking uncaringly at the plight of others?

Wow, I can't believe you missed the whole point of the picture.   We've been told all this would happen and we should not be worried about it, He's still in charge of our lives.

Odd how people can have such differing thoughts from the same picture.  I like my thinking best.

[Neighbor]

12 minutes ago, other one said:

Odd how people can have such differing thoughts from the same picture.  I like my thinking best.

Hi, I am sure  that you do,  otherwise you would not have posted it. But what it depicts to my eyes is a man laying back  while others are suffering chaos. I understand the absolute security in the hope certain of our Lord being upon us.  

I just do not see that  manifesting in any Christian laying back serenely. Instead it seems to me there is call to be going about in all that we do in  a manner that glorifies our creator. If I missed that in the picture then yes I missed it for sure. As being secure absolutely secure  just doesn't seem to me to be a ticket to lay back.

To my way  of understanding I am in the world though not of it. I am not led to lay back, though I have a smile on my face or at least in my heart as I am led each day as God wills.

[Debp]

13 hours ago, Neighbor said:

Wow I do think that to be a very poor representation of Christianity; basking uncaringly at the plight of others? Really?

The picture was simply conveying the peace we have in Christ in the midst of the storms in life.

[Neighbor]

8 hours ago, Debp said:

The picture was simply conveying the peace we have in Christ in the midst of the storms in life.

And yet to me  it depicts someone who's uncaring about all that is around 'em,  long as he personally is comfy. Seems to me that Paul for example  was never pictured as being serene and uninvolved in the plight of all that was around him.

Romans 9 "I tell the truth in Christ, I am not lying, my conscience also bearing me witness in the Holy Spirit,  that I have great sorrow and continual grief in my heart.  For I could wish that I myself were accursed from Christ for my brethren, my  according to the flesh,  who are Israelites, to whom pertain the adoption, the glory, the covenants, the giving of the law, the service of God, and the promises;  of whom are the fathers and from whom, according to the flesh, Christ came, who is over all, the eternally blessed God. Amen."

I just don't see that in a depiction of a man seeming to be uncaring about what is befalling others while he naps away.

Truth is Christians much as anyone feel the plight that is not only around us, but also affecting us, our friends, families, strangers, and even our  enemies. Better IMO for Christians to be in action amongst the chaos, than  it is to be above it all serenely unaffected by what is unfolding at this the time of the signs all around.

It is a time to be confident in prayer in the name of our Lord and savior for sure,  it is a time of physical sacrifical involvement too; but laid back while "Rome burns"?

I didn't get  the warm fuzzies when I saw that particular depiction of what someone thinks  Christians are like, even it it were so that no troubles befall a Christian it would be a really bad reality, if it were real.

And so I simply share  that perhaps it will be received in the same way by the very individuals one prays about reaching with the gospel of Jesus.  But then it has been my own experience for some 40 plus years that  there is no hammock sitting for Christians; that it  as Matthew 5 the beatitudes highlights for  understanding ..."For He makes His sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sends rain on the just and on the unjust."...  

Christians are not going to nap in a hammock while  earth and all of creation faces the time of the signs. Better to have camel knees than rump sores.

Sorry that  I see it differently than those that see the imagery  as confidence, but I do think  many will not see  Christians  in a  very kindly or inviting light if they see Christians portraying themselves as thinking of themselves to be above the fray all around them, relaxing while earth burns.

[Neighbor]

On 5/10/2024 at 4:36 PM, Still Alive said:

I've asked this question for over a year: Regardless of which side wins, how do you think the other side will respond? Honestly, I don't know, but I strongly believe it will be popcorn time.

Therein is the reason for Bobby Kennedy Jr. running independently of "sides". He is not on a side, is not  there to hammer another side, but is there to hear out and work out that which may benefit all factions, uniting the States.  See Kennedy24 online for details.

[Debp]

23 minutes ago, Neighbor said:

Therein is the reason for Bobby Kennedy Jr. running independently of "sides". He is not on a side, is not  there to hammer another side, but is there to hear out and work out that which may benefit all factions, uniting the States.  See Kennedy24 online for details.

Does he indicate what he will do about all of the illegal migrants flooding across the border?   Thereby using a lot of tax dollars.   I saw that 66 billion was used for illegal migrants compared to only 3 billion for veterans.

[Still Alive]

6 hours ago, Neighbor said:

Therein is the reason for Bobby Kennedy Jr. running independently of "sides". He is not on a side, is not  there to hammer another side, but is there to hear out and work out that which may benefit all factions, uniting the States.  See Kennedy24 online for details.

I don't believe Trump is on a side either. He joined the side of the uniparty who's platform most merged with his own views because you have to be a member of one of those parties to even have a chance at winning. 

It's pretty obvious that the republicans hate him as much as the Democrats. In my opinion, it's because they are really just two branches of the same party playing "good cop, bad cop". But Trump is above it, IMO. FWIW, one thing the trump debacle has taught me: Never again will I vote for a career politician for president. I'm done playing that game.

[Rick-Parker]

7 hours ago, Neighbor said:

Therein is the reason for Bobby Kennedy Jr. running independently of "sides". He is not on a side, is not  there to hammer another side, but is there to hear out and work out that which may benefit all factions, uniting the States.  See Kennedy24 online for details.

So, you support his position on abortion? You support his choice for VP?