Oh yeah, it is independence day at the USA-

[Neighbor]

Are you feeling it? I'm not. Perhaps I should but: Seems there is less need for  independence and far more need for interdependence under God's will.

July 4 is all convoluted in it's meaning today. Much of the nation's people want something to be theirs as an entitlement rather than being ever so thankful to God for the opportunity to  share one with another of the bounty of this land.

 I think it need become more a day of national humility than a day of pride in one's nation as though it is a blessing  to the world from God. The USA today stands, well for not much, except perhaps over an indulgence in causes that are counter to the blessing to it from God.

There is hope still, it rests in Jesus.

[Ray12614]

18 minutes ago, Neighbor said:

Are you feeling it? I'm not. Perhaps I should but: Seems there is less need for  independence and far more need for interdependence under God's will.

July 4 is all convoluted in it's meaning today. Much of the nation's people want something to be theirs as an entitlement rather than being ever so thankful to God for the opportunity to  share one with another of the bounty of this land.

 I think it need become more a day of national humility than a day of pride in one's nation as though it is a blessing  to the world from God. The USA today stands, well for not much, except perhaps over an indulgence in causes that are counter to the blessing to it from God.

There is hope still, it rests in Jesus.

This nation was founded correctly with dependance upon God, and independence from the British state sponsored religion. There is a good article about the 'wall of separation" between church and state in CBN news if anybody has a desire to know what that is about. Summary is the separation talked about by Jefferson was to keep the state out of the affairs of the Church, NOT to keep the Church out of government. It is a worthy read . . . 

So, although I am angered about what this nation has turned into, I also at the same time recognize that its purpose and foundational base was freedom from state sponsored religion, and YES I am proud of that foundation. I also know that many men and women have given their lives to keep this nation intact, and I honor their sacrifice.

So . . .  yes . . . I am an Christian nationalist . . . Christian first . . . and proud of the USA where I still have freedom to assemble and practice my Faith in Jesus without being persecuted by government (although that is starting to happen).

I am proud of this nation, angered by the secularization of this nation, and am praying for this nation, and declare to God our dependance upon Him to turn this nation around as much as is possible in these last days.

The real battle happens in prayer first, then exercising our biblical citizen responsibilities at the voting booths nationally and locally, and trusting God to do what ONLY He can do.

Happy 4th of July . . . Ray . . . 

 

 

[Vine Abider]

4 hours ago, Neighbor said:

Are you feeling it? I'm not. Perhaps I should but: Seems there is less need for  independence and far more need for interdependence under God's will.

July 4 is all convoluted in it's meaning today. Much of the nation's people want something to be theirs as an entitlement rather than being ever so thankful to God for the opportunity to  share one with another of the bounty of this land.

 I think it need become more a day of national humility than a day of pride in one's nation as though it is a blessing  to the world from God. The USA today stands, well for not much, except perhaps over an indulgence in causes that are counter to the blessing to it from God.

There is hope still, it rests in Jesus.

My favorite question for today is, "Do they have a 4th of July in England?"  I asked a good sized college class of twenty-somethings that question, and they proceeded to argue about whether the Brits would actually celebrate the Americans' independence or not.  Eventually I said, "Now listen to the question very carefully," and repeated it.  The class paused a bit, and then launched back into the same argument again. After letting it go on just a bit more, I finally asked if the English calendar jumped from July 3rd to the 5th, leaving the 4th out entirely.  They all looked quite puzzled by this last question, but then a couple of them got it.  (for those still not getting it, I asked, "We don't call Christmas 'December 25th' do we, so why do we call Independence Day July 4th?") 

The point is that the meaning can get lost by referring to it as just a date (somewhat similar to calling the called-out assembly "church")

At our weekly brothers' breakfast, one bro said, "Happy dependence on God day!"  I think this especially may sound a little strange to Americans, because we were all brought up placing so much on our independence.  (Of course, this was Adam's sin - that he chose independence from God . . . )

[LaMonte]

     I really don’t care what the world thinks or the holidays they celebrate, because I belong to a different kingdom. At the age of 23 Jesus Christ became my Lord and I was delivered from the power of darkness, and was translated into the kingdom of his dear Son: “Col 1:13” Jesus answered, My kingdom is not of this world: if my kingdom were of this world, then would my servants fight, that I should not be delivered to the Jews: but now is my kingdom not from hence. “Jn 18:36”

      1 Jn 2:15 Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him. 16 For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world.17 And the world passeth away, and the lust thereof: but he that doeth the will of God abideth forever.

      We should not have the mind or the view of the world. We should seek the mind of Christ through the Holy Spirit and the Scriptures through faith. Phil 2:5; 1 Jn 2:6

      Empire after empire has come and gone; nations have been raised, and nations have fallen, but the Kingdom of God has remained. The Medes, Persians, Greeks, and Romans all have died out. The pride and schemes of powerful leaders such as Alexander the Great, Attila the Hun, Genghis Khan, Caesar Augustus, Napoleon, Mussolini, Hitler, Stalin, and even Biden and Trump have amounted to nothing more than confusion and needless bloodshed. All the so-called great countries of the world will be destroyed at Jesus Christ coming that includes the United States. The world is like the Titanic full of pride and self-centeredness. You can remodel it, repaint it, make more laws to fight evil but it is still going to sink, there is no Hope outside of Christ and the heavenly Kingdom of God.

     2 Pet 3:10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up. 11 Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons should ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness,

     Knowing at Christ return he will destroy all man’s works by fire. How should we be living our life?

      There is only one hope for mankind and that is through the death and the resurrection of Jesus Christ. “Rom 1:16” For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to everyone that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.

       I have heard from many Church leaders that Christians need to redeem the society they live in. They need to be involved in government, politics and every type of business and social institution so that they can make a difference. That’s what a lot of people say today. But let me ask you this: whose example are we to follow? The answer for me is Jesus Christ. Did Jesus involve Himself in the politics of His day? Think of what a difference He could have made if He had entered government. But what do the Scriptures say?

[D. Adrien]

43 minutes ago, LaMonte said:

 

     I really don’t care what the world thinks or the holidays they celebrate, because I belong to a different kingdom. At the age of 23 Jesus Christ became my Lord and I was delivered from the power of darkness, and was translated into the kingdom of his dear Son: “Col 1:13” Jesus answered, My kingdom is not of this world: if my kingdom were of this world, then would my servants fight, that I should not be delivered to the Jews: but now is my kingdom not from hence. “Jn 18:36”

      1 Jn 2:15 Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him. 16 For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world.17 And the world passeth away, and the lust thereof: but he that doeth the will of God abideth forever.

      We should not have the mind or the view of the world. We should seek the mind of Christ through the Holy Spirit and the Scriptures through faith. Phil 2:5; 1 Jn 2:6

      Empire after empire has come and gone; nations have been raised, and nations have fallen, but the Kingdom of God has remained. The Medes, Persians, Greeks, and Romans all have died out. The pride and schemes of powerful leaders such as Alexander the Great, Attila the Hun, Genghis Khan, Caesar Augustus, Napoleon, Mussolini, Hitler, Stalin, and even Biden and Trump have amounted to nothing more than confusion and needless bloodshed. All the so-called great countries of the world will be destroyed at Jesus Christ coming that includes the United States. The world is like the Titanic full of pride and self-centeredness. You can remodel it, repaint it, make more laws to fight evil but it is still going to sink, there is no Hope outside of Christ and the heavenly Kingdom of God.

     2 Pet 3:10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up. 11 Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons should ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness,

     Knowing at Christ return he will destroy all man’s works by fire. How should we be living our life?

      There is only one hope for mankind and that is through the death and the resurrection of Jesus Christ. “Rom 1:16” For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to everyone that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.

       I have heard from many Church leaders that Christians need to redeem the society they live in. They need to be involved in government, politics and every type of business and social institution so that they can make a difference. That’s what a lot of people say today. But let me ask you this: whose example are we to follow? The answer for me is Jesus Christ. Did Jesus involve Himself in the politics of His day? Think of what a difference He could have made if He had entered government. But what do the Scriptures say?

Thank you LaMonte for this post. Amen!

[Dennis1209]

6 hours ago, Ray12614 said:

This nation was founded correctly with dependance upon God, and independence from the British state sponsored religion. There is a good article about the 'wall of separation" between church and state in CBN news if anybody has a desire to know what that is about. Summary is the separation talked about by Jefferson was to keep the state out of the affairs of the Church, NOT to keep the Church out of government. It is a worthy read . . . 

So, although I am angered about what this nation has turned into, I also at the same time recognize that its purpose and foundational base was freedom from state sponsored religion, and YES I am proud of that foundation. I also know that many men and women have given their lives to keep this nation intact, and I honor their sacrifice.

So . . .  yes . . . I am an Christian nationalist . . . Christian first . . . and proud of the USA where I still have freedom to assemble and practice my Faith in Jesus without being persecuted by government (although that is starting to happen).

I am proud of this nation, angered by the secularization of this nation, and am praying for this nation, and declare to God our dependance upon Him to turn this nation around as much as is possible in these last days.

The real battle happens in prayer first, then exercising our biblical citizen responsibilities at the voting booths nationally and locally, and trusting God to do what ONLY He can do.

Happy 4th of July . . . Ray . . . 

 

 

I woke up pondering Independence Day this morning and entered my thoughts on my Worthy blog.

I am glad you brought Thomas Jefferson up; my blog entry did not address that. For over two centuries, there was no debate on Jefferson's personal letter to a friend, the separation of church and state, or the intent and reason behind the Second Amendment.

Jefferson argued that the government had no business in church affairs and not vice versa. Now, the so-called elite have twisted the plain words and intent of the meanings and reasons.

During the height of the COVID-19 fiasco, they tried regulating churches through barriers, fines, and jail time for assembling, not through law but by mandate. At a perceived but erroneous time like this, churches are declared non-essential, but liquor stores and porn shops are essential services. I view this as a test run and what is coming.

So, they cannot get around our founding documents for their agenda, and their flawed and intentional reasoning is that the Constitution is antiquated and not for our time and modern people.

Imagine what would happen when five of the nine justices were liberals, nominated by an O'Biden-type president.

Based on biblical principles, past judgments, patterns, and God's righteousness, I can predict America's future looks bleak.

 

[Sower]

7 hours ago, Neighbor said:

 I think it need become more a day of national humility than a day of pride in one's nation as though it is a blessing  to the world from God. The USA today stands, well for not much, except perhaps over an indulgence in causes that are counter to the blessing to it from God.

I didn't see the "we" word, cool,  but again it's best to pinpoint your dislike of the sins of our country.
I am proud to be an American. I bow to my creator saying that. He knows.
There has been a lot of blood spilt to give us the 'right' of free speech. For everybody, good and bad.
The atheist, woke crowd, left, etc are militant and out spoken.
The conservatives remain silent overall. We should be a better steward of our most blessed country.

We celebrate what our founders did many years ago. We should do so again. Lest we forget.

Thanks Neighbor

[warrior12]

To all Americans, this is your day and enjoy it. You were not asked to be birth there, it was of the circumstance that is.  The Land of the free and brave. The free world is still free because of her in some ways, but she is going a route different for when I was a youth.

Lots of God fearing men and women has been roaming the earth from the USA proclaiming the gospel.  The Lord said, I will forget the nation that forgets me.   Psalms 9:17

There are plenty of God fearing people in America, and prayer eith perseverance is what the saints have to petition the almighty .  Are prophecy being in the swift mode, well, it seems so, but really don't know.  

Still, have to say, God bless America.

[Sower]

                        Independence Day    (from the Patriots Post)

On this, our nation's Celebration of Independence, we invite you to read about its history. (Regular editions will return Friday, July 5.)

"Honor, justice, and humanity, forbid us tamely to surrender that freedom which we received from our gallant ancestors, and which our innocent posterity have a right to receive from us. We cannot endure the infamy and guilt of resigning succeeding generations to that wretchedness which inevitably awaits them if we basely entail hereditary bondage on them." —Thomas Jefferson in the Declaration of the Causes and Necessities of Taking up Arms (1775)

"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed..."

On July 3rd, the day before the Continental Congress affirmed our Declaration of Independence, as I noted in my column, "Independence Day and Our Legacy of Liberty," John Adams wrote to his wife, Abigail, that the 4th of July "ought to be commemorated, as the Day of Deliverance by solemn Acts of Devotion to God Almighty." He continued, "It ought to be solemnized with Pomp and Parade, with Shews, Games, Sports, guns, Bells, Bonfires and Illuminations from one End of this Continent to the other from this Time forward forever more."

He added: "You will think me transported with Enthusiasm, but I am not. I am well aware of the Toil and Blood and Treasure, that it will cost Us to maintain this Declaration, and support and defend these States. Yet through all the Gloom I can see the Rays of ravishing Light and Glory. I can see that the End is more than worth all the Means. And that Posterity will triumph in that Days Transaction, even although We should rue it, which I trust in God We shall not."

The defense of Liberty requires eternal vigilance...

[enoob57]

13 hours ago, Vine Abider said:

My favorite question for today is, "Do they have a 4th of July in England?"  I asked a good sized college class of twenty-somethings that question, and they proceeded to argue about whether the Brits would actually celebrate the Americans' independence or not.  Eventually I said, "Now listen to the question very carefully," and repeated it.  The class paused a bit, and then launched back into the same argument again. After letting it go on just a bit more, I finally asked if the English calendar jumped from July 3rd to the 5th, leaving the 4th out entirely.  They all looked quite puzzled by this last question, but then a couple of them got it.  (for those still not getting it, I asked, "We don't call Christmas 'December 25th' do we, so why do we call Independence Day July 4th?") 

The point is that the meaning can get lost by referring to it as just a date (somewhat similar to calling the called-out assembly "church")

At our weekly brothers' breakfast, one bro said, "Happy dependence on God day!"  I think this especially may sound a little strange to Americans, because we were all brought up placing so much on our independence.  (Of course, this was Adam's sin - that he chose independence from God . . . )

Absorbing this into this thought:
'The Unity' is just that Our God and what He 'IS' without end... a vestment and commitment without struggle or strife... in a place where no is never needed... in a reality -if no is never needed and never spoken then we have arrived where there is no law or need of... the eternal peace without limit...