Make America Great Again. Hmmm.

[Dennis1209]

1 hour ago, Neighbor said:

But there are at three at least. 

That is part of my logic and point. I am sure there will be a handful of candidates on the voting ballot, JFK being one of them. The overwhelming majority will either vote Republican or Democratic; that is where the money is invested for the two major parties. I guarantee one of the two major parties will win the election by hook or crook. I suspect you may be referring to JFK.

JFK is a decent politician, and I have only a few qualms with him. It is established Trump (R) is the nominee. Thus far, Harris (D) appears to be the heir apparent, and may not have a DNC this election, and I do not know.

If JFK (I) runs for the presidential election, he is popular enough to swing the election to the Democrats, a Ross Perot 2.0 again. JFK has no chance of winning the election but will, in effect, swing votes away from Trump toward Harris and the Democrats.

I am not a political analyst, but those are historical and logical conclusions.

To Fox News: Yes, I am free as a consultant political analyst guest anytime; give me a ding-a-ling. 😊

[Neighbor]

22 minutes ago, Dennis1209 said:

I am not a political analyst, but those are historical and logical conclusions.

 

If that premise holds water,  how does one reconcile the effort of the DNC to challenge RFK Jr. being on the ballot at every State? seems to me they would be aiding it if it hurts trump more than it hurts them.

Further  if one is to vote for only the person that can win in their own State  then no Republican should bother at California to vote for President. Harris will overwhelmingly take California; unless the real majority those that do not align as Republican nor Democrat but do vote then take the opportunity to vote for JFK Jr.

Neither Dems nor Reps are going to be moved, they so enjoy the Kool Aid flavor of discord and real hatreds that  their brand mixes up and serves them.

But the numeric majority, they will look at the Kool Aid, think better of sampling it yet again, and may indeed vote almost as a block against either  of the duopoly's flavors. And will instead vote for RFK Jr. Really,  the race is just about to begin.

Seems to me the whole world can be flipped in a twinkling of one world event. One event can move a nation's people to say, no more I will not buy into this anymore.

[Vine Abider]

On 7/20/2024 at 5:01 PM, Neighbor said:

Very interesting. 

Yes while there are Christians in the USA today. I do see the USA as being post Christian and fast becoming anti Christian. The calculated and championed policies against  both Christian churches and Christian schools has been ongoing for over  a quarter century  now.

I know many think there will be severe judgement by God on the evils we've let spring up in our country (the good ol' US of A), and I'm not saying there won't be, but His children live here too.  (and, of course, in other countries also) So I suspect there is still a big blessing going on, with much love, mercy and grace, while His children are in these various places.  And we know that He wills that all would be saved, and is long-suffering that all would be brought to repentance. (2 Peter 3:9)

So I think the principle is like with Abraham's nephew, Lot - if a certain amount of righteous are there, He will withhold wrathful judgement. But if these ones are removed . . .

This verse @Dennis1209 quoted here last week bears repeating: 

2 Chronicles 7:14 If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.

[Neighbor]

19 minutes ago, Vine Abider said:

And we know that He wills that all would be saved, and is long-suffering that all would be brought to repentance. (2 Peter 3:9)

[Called to Blessing]

 ..."Finally, all of you be of one mind, having compassion for one another; love as brothers, be tenderhearted, be courteous;  not returning evil for evil or reviling for reviling, but on the contrary blessing, knowing that you were called to this, that you may inherit a blessing.  For

“He who would love life
And see good days,
Let him refrain his tongue from evil,
And his lips from speaking deceit.
 Let him turn away from evil and do good;
Let him seek peace and pursue it.
 For the eyes of the Lord are on the righteous,
And His ears are open to their prayers;
But the face of the Lord is against those who do evil.”

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"The Lord has made all for Himself,
Yes, even the wicked for the day of doom."

[Dennis1209]

The title of this thread and slogan is, Make America Great Again, it suggests America is not so great of an empire anymore, and I agree with that. The sun is setting in America, as in Britain and every other leading country throughout history. The average longevity of an empire historically is about 250 years.

I documented the proven biblical and historical facts on the cycle of nations, cyclic events, and no new thing under the sun. America was the most blessed nation in the history of nations (Gen: 10).

Many a migrant had heard America was a beacon to the world and migrated here. Many visitors came here to discover what was so special about this place. The One True Living God blessed it; some claim divine manifestation and destiny.

Our foundation: The Puritans were a group advocating for religious purity in Europe in the 16th-18th centuries. They believed in reforming the Church of England, emphasizing individual responsibility to God and a high view of Scripture. Facing persecution in England, some Puritans migrated to America, influencing the foundation of the country. Their beliefs shaped American values like individual liberties, the work ethic, public education, and moral foundations. The Puritans' impact is seen in institutions like Harvard University and their emphasis on godly behavior. Notable Puritans include John Bunyan, John Winthrop, Cotton Mather, and John Foxe. Their writings and teachings continue to be studied and appreciated by theologians across different church backgrounds.¹

¹Got Questions? Bible Questions Answered, Volume 2 (2014–2021)

Today, America has become the leader in other things. The leading exporter of pornography, homosexuality, abortion providers, pharmakeia, and entitlements, both foreign and domestic, among many other abominations.

At any rate, America has squandered its blessings away, shaking its fist at God, saying we do not want or need You. I believe we have crossed the Rubicon with no return. The Bible emphatically states ALL nations will turn against Israel. Notice the gradual waning of support for Israel in her hour of need. Still trying to force Israel into giving up land they do not have for a two-state solution a blind man can see is ridiculous. The growing antisemitism protests and terrorist support for HAMAS with Israel as the bad guy and aggressor.

As I read prophetic Scripture for our time in 2 Timothy 3:1-5 and other places in the last days, it pops off the pages of Scripture, living in them.

It is not a suggestion or good idea; we Christians are commanded to watch; what are we to watch for? The coming of the Lord to take His bride off the planet.

Hebrews 10:25 Not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together, as the manner of some is; but exhorting one another: and so much the more, as ye see the day approaching.

What day? The times we live in and the approaching Tribulation period. The prophetic Scripture for our time has manifested today, jumping off the pages of the Bible.

Would I be off the mark in stating our nation as a whole has turned idolatrous, worshipping those in power, movie stars, celebrities, sports stars, money, the pleasures and lusts of life? That about half of America has been turned over to a debased mind, calling evil good and good evil, enforcing evolutionary theory, the entitlement mentality, loss of work ethic, wanting socialism and the government to take care of them, on and on…

No, I do not see a 2 Chronicles 7:14 future for America, having celebrated, embraced, and legalized abominations to God. Biblically, judgment appears not far off after sin and abominations become the law of the land. Today, we call it political correctness and inclusion, non-discriminating. Anyone not going along with the program is called haters and domestic terrorists.

Paul tells us about the mystery of our blessed hope, and I believe it will be the next major prophetic event.

 

[Marilyn C]

5 hours ago, Vine Abider said:

I know many think there will be severe judgement by God on the evils we've let spring up in our country (the good ol' US of A), and I'm not saying there won't be, but His children live here too.  (and, of course, in other countries also) So I suspect there is still a big blessing going on, with much love, mercy and grace, while His children are in these various places.  And we know that He wills that all would be saved, and is long-suffering that all would be brought to repentance. (2 Peter 3:9)

So I think the principle is like with Abraham's nephew, Lot - if a certain amount of righteous are there, He will withhold wrathful judgement. But if these ones are removed . . .

This verse @Dennis1209 quoted here last week bears repeating: 

2 Chronicles 7:14 If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.

Hi VA,

I know people quote this verse as for us, but let`s read the context.

`Then the Lord appeared to Solomon by night, and said to him; "I have heard your prayer, and have chosen this place for Myself as a house of sacrifice. When I shut up heaven and there is no rain, or command the locusts to devour the land, or send pestilence among My people,

if My people who are called by My name will humble themselves, and pray and seek My face, and turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin and heal their land.

Now My eyes will be open and My ears attentive to prayer made in this place. For I have chosen and sanctified this house, that My name may be here forever; and My eyes and My heart will be there perpetually.

As for you, (Solomon) if you walk before Me as your father David walked and do according to all that I have commanded you, and if you keep My statues and My judgments, then I will establish the throne of your kingdom, as I covenanted with David your father, saying, "You shall not fail to have a man as ruler in Israel."  (2 Chron. 7: 12 - 18)