Trump has GOT to change the way he speaks if he want to win. [from this afternoon]

[Neighbor]

DNA  is interesting, but really irrelevant. The first black USA President was Bill Clinton. Hey no joke. Remember?

For What It's Worth there's something happening here
but what it is ain't exactly clear

...I think it's time we stop

...There's battle lines being drawn
Nobody's right if everybody's wrong

...It's time we stop
Hey, what's that sound?
Everybody look - what's going down?


....A thousand people in the street
Singing songs and carrying signs
Mostly saying, "hooray for our side"

[NConly]

22 hours ago, Jayne said:

I understand.  Everyone knows that.  HE knows that.  Why the pretense that he doesn't?

I did not know til I searched it after this thread started

[NConly]

2 hours ago, just_abc said:

 

hi..  I hope it is ok to ask.. but I was quite puzzled about this statement?

I looked up news articles online.. for around the time she was running for senator or had just been elected /sworn in..  and there were many american news media articles back then which refered to her as 'black' or 'african american'... or they mentioned about her having both Indian and Jamaican descent /etc..  or both..

For example:

https://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/2016-election-day/meet-kamala-harris-second-black-woman-elected-u-s-senate-n680726

https://www.cbsnews.com/sanfrancisco/news/california-ag-kamala-harris-wins-battle-to-replace-retiring-senator-boxer/

https://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/29/magazine/kamala-harris-a-top-cop-in-the-era-of-black-lives-matter.html

 

These are just a few of the many articles I found from back then mentioning her ethnicities /heritage.

So it was well known that she had both ethnicities?  

 

 

She is both.   

When someone has parents who are of different ethnicities.. they inherit both ethnicities /heritages.  It isn't an either this ethnicity or that ethnicity .. it is both........ 

(except perhaps in countries where a child of mixed ethnicity is legally considered as being of the ethnicity /citizenship of one particular parent only.. often the father.    However as far as I know the Usa grants equal rights to both parents for these matters.)

 

Just some thoughts thats all.  (As someone from a country which has many different ethnicities and cultures)

Truly no offence intended to anyone.

Thank you. 

 

Well for myself im not offended by your post. I would say out all Representatives and Senators which is over 500 imo less than half are trustworthy to follow the Constitution. I see Trump may be offensive to some with how he speaks and not to others. He is not a politician imo. I was offended by The Clintons and Obamas. Now many things Harris says offends me.   Most people I have known use the Fathers last name as their choice of heritage. Some do use both Parents.  imo one that choose both should always use both not the mother name sometime and the Father name at other times.

Edited August 2, 2024 by NConly
correction

[The Barbarian]

2 hours ago, just_abc said:

These are just a few of the many articles I found from back then mentioning her ethnicities /heritage.

So it was well known that she had both ethnicities?  

Yes, of course.   But count on Trump to play the race card.   He's not the only one of course, but it's a despicable thing if it's based on a falsehood.

 

[Vine Abider]

3 hours ago, other one said:

I listened to that video several times and one should take a lot into consideration.

1. they invited him under false pretences, since he was told that Kamala would be there.

I heard #1 somewhere else, but in trying to substantiate it, I haven't been able to find any other sources saying that Harris was supposed to be there.  Can you provide any sources (preferably that are not strong right bias) verifying that?

[ayin jade]

16 hours ago, Jayne said:

I am not a leftist.  I am an ex-Republican, now an Independent and a moderate.

The best president in a century?  Sigh.

I give up.  I just slam give up.

For some reason, I had thought you were british and kept wondering why you posted about trump so much. No clue why I thought that.

[ayin jade]

9 hours ago, Vine Abider said:

This is probably un-Pc or un-woke or sumptin, but how much black does a person need to have in them before identifying as black?

For instance, I have 1/16 Cherokee in me - can I ID as native American?

To be precise, you could be a tribal member IF your ancestry can be traced to either the dawes roll (1907) or the baker roll (1924). Realistically, you would likely just be able to say you have some native american blood.

I have 1/16 saami blood (once known as lapp) but was never exposed to that culture. So I do not identify as saami.

[Neighbor]

10 hours ago, Vine Abider said:

For instance, I have 1/16 Cherokee in me - can I ID as native American?

There are official rules see https://www.bia.gov/guide/tracing-american-indian-and-alaska-native-aian-ancestry Scroll down to Cherokee

Also there are some 54 tribes that are still battling the USA federal government for recognition as native American tribes! The USA took away their status back in 1954 ( Date?) backing out of the treaties it had with Native American Tribes.

Robert F Kennedy Jr. Has been representing them and some recognized tribes too. He  filed lawsuits against the USA federal government, and is a champion for their rights to be recognized under the treaties that the USA decertified. See https://www.kennedy24.com/native-americans warning: pop up ads might seek political donations! Robert Kennedy himself championed Native American ( Indian tribe) rights.

Excerpt:..." Robert F Kennedy Jr. inherited from his father a deep commitment to improving the lives of Native Americans. Like his father, he sees the poverty and suffering in Indian Country as our country’s greatest shame and he believes that the federal government’s unfair dealings and broken treaties with the tribal nations are our nation’s original sin."

[Neighbor]

Back on track: I cannot but feel grief for our nation that today it is still pained and stained with racism's core which is antichrist. 

Is this still the land of George Wallace mindsets? After all these years, with so many hurt, and so many dead for the cause of freedom  for all races, all creeds, under God, under the flag of the USA,  we are going to be engaging in race baiting diatribes , one side against another  when on this there should be no sides, none?

There is no excuse for falling into that trap, not after all these years! Do not excuse it, do not except it, declare it to be the evil that it is.

Racism and race baiting is evil!

[Logostician]

Trump doesn't need to change a thing about himself.  But he needs to change everything about how the USA has been run into the ground over the past 3 1/2 yrs.  Trump has a 4 year track record of doing everything right.  Harris has zero accomplishments of any kind.  But I want Harris to talk.  Just like I wanted Biden to talk in the debate that ended his presidency.  The more these people talk, the more we see that they have nothing positive to say, or do.  If this sounds harsh, so be it.  The world is spinning out of control.  And while we all know this must happen, God knows that his people will always fight evil in order to truly love their neighbor.