Is God Still Speaking Thru Prophets Today to Steer the Nations?

[jean yan]

Hello all,

In the Bible, God often appointed kings, He removed kings, and sometimes He caused Kings to die.

1 Samuel 16 says, “The Lord said to Samuel, ‘How long will you mourn for Saul, since I have rejected him as king over Israel? Fill your horn with oil and be on your way; I am sending you to Jesse of Bethlehem. I have chosen one of his sons to be king.’”

Below is a link to a video posted on X:  a brief overview of modern Christian prophets and their prophecies which have been supposedly fulfilled in recent years AND the prophecies supposedly about to be fulfilled in 2024 and early 2025.

I did a quick bit of research and it appears the dates shown on each short prophecy clip are accurate.

Some prophecies in this video include:

1. Trump will initially become POTUS
2. Trump will be impeached but not removed
3. A pandemic (COVID) will come and unscrupulous people will take advantage of it
4. Roe v. Wade (legalized abortion in the USA) will be overturned
5. A bullet will fly past Trump's right ear
6. Lawfare will be used against Trump but will fail to stop him
7. A sudden and unusually high number of resignations of influential leaders
8. Kamala will become POTUS for a short time.
9. The 2024 race will appear to be 'Neck and neck' but Trump will win while the other will drop.

Here is the link to the video posted on X.  It is titled:  The Trump Prophecies: Is God Orchestrating The Events of 2024? (Extended Uncensored Version)

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[Diaste]

When isn't God orchestrating? 

[enoob57]

8 hours ago, jean yan said:

Hello all,

In the Bible, God often appointed kings, He removed kings, and sometimes He caused Kings to die.

1 Samuel 16 says, “The Lord said to Samuel, ‘How long will you mourn for Saul, since I have rejected him as king over Israel? Fill your horn with oil and be on your way; I am sending you to Jesse of Bethlehem. I have chosen one of his sons to be king.’”

Below is a link to a video posted on X:  a brief overview of modern Christian prophets and their prophecies which have been supposedly fulfilled in recent years AND the prophecies supposedly about to be fulfilled in 2024 and early 2025.

I did a quick bit of research and it appears the dates shown on each short prophecy clip are accurate.

Some prophecies in this video include:

1. Trump will initially become POTUS
2. Trump will be impeached but not removed
3. A pandemic (COVID) will come and unscrupulous people will take advantage of it
4. Roe v. Wade (legalized abortion in the USA) will be overturned
5. A bullet will fly past Trump's right ear
6. Lawfare will be used against Trump but will fail to stop him
7. A sudden and unusually high number of resignations of influential leaders
8. Kamala will become POTUS for a short time.
9. The 2024 race will appear to be 'Neck and neck' but Trump will win while the other will drop.

Here is the link to the video posted on X.  It is titled:  The Trump Prophecies: Is God Orchestrating The Events of 2024? (Extended Uncensored Version)

There is no more prophecy as God's Word is sealed ...

Revelation 22:18 (KJV)

[18] For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:

[19] And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.

 

[tatwo]

9 hours ago, enoob57 said:

There is no more prophecy as God's Word is sealed ...

Something does not add up noob...it would appear that you are conflating "the written scriptures' or bible" with the "living active Word of God"...which is “Spirit.”

First…you quote Revelation 22:19-19 which says…“I testify to everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: if anyone adds to them, God will add to him the plagues which are written in this book; and if anyone takes away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God will take away his part from the tree of life and from the holy city, which are written in this book.”

This is a charge…“not to add to or take away from”…which is a strong admonition “not to change any of the words of the book of this prophecy”…we are admonished to take it as it is. It does not say that “there is no more prophecy as God’s Word is sealed”…as you suggest.

We can see this very fact in that same chapter back in verse 10…John is told this…by the angel…“And he *said to me, "Do not seal up the words of the prophecy of this book, for the time is near.” Looks like the opposite of the theology that you are parroting Enoob57…you knew that friend…right?

The "Word of God or God's Word" is the “Spirit of God,” as the scriptures reveal, the Word of God became the Son of God Yahshua, He is prophecy, He is living and active, He is the name of Christ…He is the sword of the Spirit…and there are more descriptions found in the scriptures.

To say…”there is no more prophecy” is cut from the same distorted folly that says “God’s Word is sealed.”  Again if we consider Revelation 19:10 we can see the angel telling John that…“the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy”…testimony means…evidence, proof, witness, manifest presence…in this case the “spirit of prophecy” is said to be…the evidence, proof or witness of the Lord’s presence.

No…”God’s word” is not “sealed” it literally could never be…He created all that is. Sure man’s version or collection of chosen scriptures known as the cannon is sealed…by men. However the evidence of the “living active Word…Himself” is encountered as the “spirit of prophecy”…He...the spirit of prophecy…is the evidence...that the Lord Yahshua Christ is manifest…He is the proof of the “God’s Word” in the prophetic…so…to say there is no more prophecy is to say there is no more testimony of the Lord Yahshua…

I call that unbelief.

Tatwo…:)

[enoob57]

2 hours ago, tatwo said:

Something does not add up noob...it would appear that you are conflating "the written scriptures' or bible" with the "living active Word of God"...which is “Spirit.”

I don't need to conflate anything Scripture is God's living Word and it is sufficient for all that is here nothing else is needed

2 Timothy 3:15 (KJV)

[15] And that from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus.

[16] All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

[17] That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.

 

2 hours ago, tatwo said:

First…you quote Revelation 22:19-19 which says…“I testify to everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: if anyone adds to them, God will add to him the plagues which are written in this book; and if anyone takes away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God will take away his part from the tree of life and from the holy city, which are written in this book.”

This is a charge…“not to add to or take away from”…which is a strong admonition “not to change any of the words of the book of this prophecy”…we are admonished to take it as it is. It does not say that “there is no more prophecy as God’s Word is sealed”…as you suggest.

The book of Revelation takes believers all the way to the eternal state... and that is where the seal on God's Word is placed

2 hours ago, tatwo said:

We can see this very fact in that same chapter back in verse 10…John is told this…by the angel…“And he *said to me, "Do not seal up the words of the prophecy of this book, for the time is near.” Looks like the opposite of the theology that you are parroting Enoob57…you knew that friend…right?

That is correct Revelation and all that was permitted to be written was not sealed up ... as we see in this in contrast

Rev 10:4
4 And when the seven thunders had uttered their voices, I was about to write: and I heard a voice from heaven saying unto me, Seal up those things which the seven thunders uttered, and write them not.
KJV
This was not to be written so seal it up also other:

Dan 8:25
26 "And the vision of the evenings and mornings
Which was told is true;
Therefore seal up the vision,
For it refers to many days in the future." 
NKJV

Dan 12:4
4 "But you, Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book until the time of the end; many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall increase." 
NKJV

Dan 12:9-10

9 And he said, "Go your way, Daniel, for the words are closed up and sealed till the time of the end. 10 Many shall be purified, made white, and refined, but the wicked shall do wickedly; and none of the wicked shall understand, but the wise shall understand. 
NKJV
God in The Person of the Holy Spirit has completed what God has said to man and yes Scripture is a living book impowered by God Himself to the tune of 

Luke 21:33 (KJV)
[33] Heaven and earth shall pass away: but my words shall not pass away.

And The seal upon 'This Book- Revelation' takes man all the way to the eternal state and that is what is sealed 'AND' written!

2 hours ago, tatwo said:

The "Word of God or God's Word" is the “Spirit of God,” as the scriptures reveal, the Word of God became the Son of God Yahshua, He is prophecy, He is living and active, He is the name of Christ…He is the sword of the Spirit…and there are more descriptions found in the scriptures.

Read John 1 for proper understanding...

2 hours ago, tatwo said:

To say…”there is no more prophecy” is cut from the same distorted folly that says “God’s Word is sealed.”  Again if we consider Revelation 19:10 we can see the angel telling John that…“the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy”…testimony means…evidence, proof, witness, manifest presence…in this case the “spirit of prophecy” is said to be…the evidence, proof or witness of the Lord’s presence.

rhetoric only... no scholarly substance to be examined.

2 hours ago, tatwo said:

No…”God’s word” is not “sealed” it literally could never be…He created all that is. Sure man’s version or collection of chosen scriptures known as the cannon is sealed…by men. However the evidence of the “living active Word…Himself” is encountered as the “spirit of prophecy”…He...the spirit of prophecy…is the evidence...that the Lord Yahshua Christ is manifest…He is the proof of the “God’s Word” in the prophetic…so…to say there is no more prophecy is to say there is no more testimony of the Lord Yahshua…

I call that unbelief.

same as above rhetoric only... if you wish to convince me of anything you will have to do it with Scripture not rhetoric...

[BornAgain490]

23 hours ago, jean yan said:

Hello all,

In the Bible, God often appointed kings, He removed kings, and sometimes He caused Kings to die.

1 Samuel 16 says, “The Lord said to Samuel, ‘How long will you mourn for Saul, since I have rejected him as king over Israel? Fill your horn with oil and be on your way; I am sending you to Jesse of Bethlehem. I have chosen one of his sons to be king.’”

Below is a link to a video posted on X:  a brief overview of modern Christian prophets and their prophecies which have been supposedly fulfilled in recent years AND the prophecies supposedly about to be fulfilled in 2024 and early 2025.

I did a quick bit of research and it appears the dates shown on each short prophecy clip are accurate.

Some prophecies in this video include:

1. Trump will initially become POTUS
2. Trump will be impeached but not removed
3. A pandemic (COVID) will come and unscrupulous people will take advantage of it
4. Roe v. Wade (legalized abortion in the USA) will be overturned
5. A bullet will fly past Trump's right ear
6. Lawfare will be used against Trump but will fail to stop him
7. A sudden and unusually high number of resignations of influential leaders
8. Kamala will become POTUS for a short time.
9. The 2024 race will appear to be 'Neck and neck' but Trump will win while the other will drop.

Here is the link to the video posted on X.  It is titled:  The Trump Prophecies: Is God Orchestrating The Events of 2024? (Extended Uncensored Version)

We have God's word and the promises of God written for all generations.  Jesus never said He was going to send another prophet; He said was going to send the Comforter- the Holy Spirit. Jesus did warm us about false prophets to come. 

God gave us the prophets and the apostles, and through them God gave to us all the info we need.  Jesus, who is God, is the law and the prophets. Listen to Him. 

We are commanded to watch and be ready, not look for another prophet. 

Have you ever witnessed a preacher call out to the congregation something so general, like this: "The Holy Spirit is telling me that one of you is suffering severe back pain,  and you've been praying for a healing miracle." There is no doubt a number of people in the congregation who are saying to themselves, "Yes. That's me."  That's what we're seeing with these so-called modern prophets.  They're "reading tea leaves" and making a prediction, not a prophecy.

All those people mentioned in the video have probably made some predictions that didn't come true. God said to stone such a one, for God did not send them. 

You've heard the phrase: A broken clock is right twice in a day, once if it's a 24hr clock. 

[JoeCanada]

15 hours ago, enoob57 said:

There is no more prophecy as God's Word is sealed ...

 Joe 2:28

“[fn]It will come about after this
That I will pour out My Spirit on all [fn]mankind;
And your sons and daughters will prophesy,
Your old men will dream dreams,
Your young men will see visions.

 

https://www.blueletterbible.org/assets-v3/images/copyChkboxOff.gif Act 2:17

‘AND IT SHALL BE IN THE LAST DAYS,' God says,
‘THAT I WILL POUR FORTH OF MY SPIRIT ON ALL [fn]MANKIND;
AND YOUR SONS AND YOUR DAUGHTERS SHALL PROPHESY,
AND YOUR YOUNG MEN SHALL SEE VISIONS,
AND YOUR OLD MEN SHALL DREAM DREAMS;

 

https://www.blueletterbible.org/assets-v3/images/copyChkboxOff.gif Act 2:18

EVEN ON MY BONDSLAVES, BOTH MEN AND WOMEN,
I WILL IN THOSE DAYS POUR FORTH OF MY SPIRIT
And they shall prophesy.

[enoob57]

23 minutes ago, JoeCanada said:

 Joe 2:28

“[fn]It will come about after this
That I will pour out My Spirit on all [fn]mankind;
And your sons and daughters will prophesy,
Your old men will dream dreams,
Your young men will see visions.

 

https://www.blueletterbible.org/assets-v3/images/copyChkboxOff.gif Act 2:17

‘AND IT SHALL BE IN THE LAST DAYS,' God says,
‘THAT I WILL POUR FORTH OF MY SPIRIT ON ALL [fn]MANKIND;
AND YOUR SONS AND YOUR DAUGHTERS SHALL PROPHESY,
AND YOUR YOUNG MEN SHALL SEE VISIONS,
AND YOUR OLD MEN SHALL DREAM DREAMS;

 

https://www.blueletterbible.org/assets-v3/images/copyChkboxOff.gif Act 2:18

EVEN ON MY BONDSLAVES, BOTH MEN AND WOMEN,
I WILL IN THOSE DAYS POUR FORTH OF MY SPIRIT
And they shall prophesy.

You must take all Scripture into account as it is quite clear Scripture is sealed ... the Joel reference could have been anytime up and to 90 AD when Revelation was written from that time forward the God's Word to man is complete

2 Timothy 3:15 (KJV)

[15] And that from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus.

[16] All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

[17] That the man of God may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works.

otherwise, that which you claim makes void the Thoroughly furnished that God states... God needs to do extra to that which is written... your claim!

[JoeCanada]

but this is what was spoken of through the prophet Joel:

 

https://www.blueletterbible.org/assets-v3/images/copyChkboxOff.gif Act 2:17

‘AND IT SHALL BE IN THE LAST DAYS,’ God says,
‘THAT I WILL POUR FORTH OF MY SPIRIT ON ALL [fn]MANKIND;
AND YOUR SONS AND YOUR DAUGHTERS SHALL PROPHESY,
AND YOUR YOUNG MEN SHALL SEE VISIONS,
AND YOUR OLD MEN SHALL DREAM DREAMS;

 

https://www.blueletterbible.org/assets-v3/images/copyChkboxOff.gif Act 2:18

EVEN ON MY BONDSLAVES, BOTH MEN AND WOMEN,
I WILL IN THOSE DAYS POUR FORTH OF MY SPIRIT
And they shall prophesy.

 

https://www.blueletterbible.org/assets-v3/images/copyChkboxOff.gif Act 2:19

‘AND I WILL GRANT WONDERS IN THE SKY ABOVE
AND SIGNS ON THE EARTH BELOW,
BLOOD, AND FIRE, AND VAPOR OF SMOKE.

 

https://www.blueletterbible.org/assets-v3/images/copyChkboxOff.gif Act 2:20

‘THE SUN WILL BE TURNED INTO DARKNESS
AND THE MOON INTO BLOOD,
BEFORE THE GREAT AND GLORIOUS DAY OF THE LORD SHALL COME.

 

https://www.blueletterbible.org/assets-v3/images/copyChkboxOff.gif Act 2:21

‘AND IT SHALL BE THAT EVERYONE WHO CALLS ON THE NAME OF THE LORD WILL BE SAVED.’

 

Peters sermon is not just for the time up to AD 90, as we can see from Acts 2:19 and 20.

Peter is telling us what will happen at the end of days..... 

[tatwo]

13 hours ago, enoob57 said:

if you wish to convince me of anything you will have to do it with Scripture not rhetoric

I have no desire to try to convince you of anything Enoob57...none..it would be impossible for me.

I do occasionally confront fallacy raised up as Truth...to be worshipped as Truth...simply in an attempt to offer my brothers and sisters a standard of light in the darkness. 

JoeCanada presented you with sufficient scripture to illuminate the Lord's intentions for His prophetic Spirit expressly and directly for the end of the age...you also told him that he too failed your litmus test of scriptural accuracy...

As you will Enoob57...as you will. A once famous prophet said..."That which is born of the flesh is flesh, and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit."

Tatwo...:)