Is God Still Speaking Thru Prophets Today to Steer the Nations?

[BornAgain490]

3 minutes ago, tatwo said:

John's statement of "test the spirits" to identify the "false prophets" actually illuminates or implies that there are "true prophets." So one would have to know the New Testament definition of a "true prophet" to be able to "try" or distinguish the false ones.

They are both here as John stated...apparently you can't see them to try them...or perhaps you can only see what you call the false ones. The true prophets of God are called and graced by the Lord Himself...they are Scripturally defined and active in the Kingdom of God...what are you looking at that you cannot discern them BornAgain490?

You never did answer my question concerning the four living creatures of Revelation 4...you will need a prophet for that...more likely an apostle. You have no clue and think those passages are simply unimportant...lets ignore them...yet they have a prophetic implication for our day.

Tatwo...:) 

Okay. Great!  Name just one. 

Edited October 2, 2024 by BornAgain490

[BornAgain490]

5 minutes ago, tatwo said:

John's statement of "test the spirits" to identify the "false prophets" actually illuminates or implies that there are "true prophets." So one would have to know the New Testament definition of a "true prophet" to be able to "try" or distinguish the false ones.

They are both here as John stated...apparently you can't see them to try them...or perhaps you can only see what you call the false ones. The true prophets of God are called and graced by the Lord Himself...they are Scripturally defined and active in the Kingdom of God...what are you looking at that you cannot discern them BornAgain490?

You never did answer my question concerning the four living creatures of Revelation 4...you will need a prophet for that...more likely an apostle. You have no clue and think those passages are simply unimportant...lets ignore them...yet they have a prophetic implication for our day.

Tatwo...:) 

Go one better: since you know, name one true modern prophet and name one false modern prophet. Thanks. 

Edited October 2, 2024 by BornAgain490

[WilliamL]

On 10/1/2024 at 5:50 PM, BornAgain490 said:

Re: prophets, we are to try them to see whether they are from God, "because many false prophets are gone out into the world."  1 John 4:1 

You did not answer the question, just dodged it.

On 10/1/2024 at 5:04 PM, enoob57 said:

when one lets Scripture interpret Scripture this answer is easy... from the eternal, which only God has that perspective, a day (24 hour period) is the same to The Lord, in his infinite state, as (one thousand years)... 
2 Peter 3:8 (KJV)

[8] But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.

You should be more careful how you handle Scripture...

Your "easy answer" likewise dodges the question. (And closes with a judgment, as if you presume you are one qualified to judge.)

The facts of the case speak differently. These early Apostles thought that the Lord was coming in their day, and wrote so. Only Peter, just before his death, recanted this belief, by means of the verse you quoted above.

Remember, the Lord specifically told his disciples, “It is not for you to know times or seasons which the Father has put in His own authority." Acts 1:7 For them to say anything about the immanence of the Parousia of the Lord, as James did -- "the Parousia of the Lord is at hand" -- means that they forgot the Lord's own instruction to them. Per the Lord's own words, they were not to teach anything about the times or the seasons of the Lord's return.

It sure is easy to cast judgments upon other believers, while ignoring the log in your own eye. Christ's disciples, including the Apostles, were/are all flawed, and make well-meaning but misbegotten mistakes. So beware of casting judgments, because as you judge, so will you be judged in the same measure.

[Mr. M]

7 minutes ago, WilliamL said:

The facts of the case speak differently. These early Apostles thought that the Lord was coming in their day, and wrote so. Only Peter, just before his death, recanted this belief, by means of the verse you quoted above.

That is not how I understand the matter. Fact is, they lived and taught "as if" the Lord could return at any time. This is how they were instructed, not just to teach others, but the manner in which they lived their lives. Just as Jesus taught them and us in the Gospels. Many talk "as if", then take out a 30 year debt burden for their dream house.

Not my dream. Not my house. My income by government standards is at "extreme poverty", yet I lack for nothing. And if the Lord says "go here", I can pack everything in two suitcases and a backpack and board a plane tonight. But that's just me, living the dream.

[WilliamL]

21 minutes ago, Mr. M said:

That is not how I understand the matter. Fact is, they lived and taught "as if" the Lord could return at any time. This is how they were instructed, not just to teach others, but the manner in which they lived their lives.

It is one thing to live as if the Lord could come at any time, and quite another thing to teach that the Lord's return is immanent.

24 minutes ago, Mr. M said:

My income by government standards is at "extreme poverty", yet I lack for nothing.

Likewise.

[Mr. M]

28 minutes ago, WilliamL said:

It is one thing to live as if the Lord could come at any time, and quite another thing to teach that the Lord's return is immanent.

Likewise.

We have been talking all morning.

That is good enough for me.

The Lord is going to do what He has to do. 

I am just a watchman.

"Like a sparrow alone on a housetop".

I recited Psalm 102 a few minutes ago,

and that verse made me feel the longing.

Praise God for something to offer up to Him.

"For the Father has not left me alone."

 

Edited October 7, 2024 by Mr. M

[TheBlade]

On 9/17/2024 at 8:24 PM, jean yan said:

Hello all,

In the Bible, God often appointed kings, He removed kings, and sometimes He caused Kings to die.

1 Samuel 16 says, “The Lord said to Samuel, ‘How long will you mourn for Saul, since I have rejected him as king over Israel? Fill your horn with oil and be on your way; I am sending you to Jesse of Bethlehem. I have chosen one of his sons to be king.’”

Below is a link to a video posted on X:  a brief overview of modern Christian prophets and their prophecies which have been supposedly fulfilled in recent years AND the prophecies supposedly about to be fulfilled in 2024 and early 2025.

I did a quick bit of research and it appears the dates shown on each short prophecy clip are accurate.

Some prophecies in this video include:

1. Trump will initially become POTUS
2. Trump will be impeached but not removed
3. A pandemic (COVID) will come and unscrupulous people will take advantage of it
4. Roe v. Wade (legalized abortion in the USA) will be overturned
5. A bullet will fly past Trump's right ear
6. Lawfare will be used against Trump but will fail to stop him
7. A sudden and unusually high number of resignations of influential leaders
8. Kamala will become POTUS for a short time.
9. The 2024 race will appear to be 'Neck and neck' but Trump will win while the other will drop.

Here is the link to the video posted on X.  It is titled:  The Trump Prophecies: Is God Orchestrating The Events of 2024? (Extended Uncensored Version)

Yes He still uses them. I can think of 4 off the top of my head. Now these are they that talk face to face with world leaders. One just wow how God has used him.. The stories are like reading the bible just praise GOD. Hmm there are places you will not read about them.. 

False prophets were not call false because they were wrong all the time but also because GOD never spoke to them. We will not see "prophets" pop up saying who is going to win 2025 like what happened in 2020. Side note.. love this song "Almost home"  we are almost home.. almost home. 

As with any calling from God there are gifts that must be in that calling so it is with the prophet. Any way God knows already who wins in 2025. So the person in office I don't just run with GOD put them there, not in the USA. See He put in motion the right for the people to vote. God was kicked out thousands of years ago. Hard to read when He says He wanted to be their king but they did not want Him " “Listen to all that the people are saying to you; it is not you they have rejected, but they have rejected me as their king."

[BornAgain490]

1 hour ago, WilliamL said:

You did not answer the question, just dodged it

I answered. You just don't like the answer.  

[WilliamL]

On 10/1/2024 at 3:43 PM, WilliamL said:

Were some the NT writers infallible when they wrote that "the end of all things is near" (1 Pet. 4:7), and similar words? Cf. James 5:8, 1 John 2:18, Romans 13:12, etc.

  

On 10/1/2024 at 5:50 PM, BornAgain490 said:

Re: prophets, we are to try them to see whether they are from God, "because many false prophets are gone out into the world."  1 John 4:1 

 

On 10/7/2024 at 3:05 PM, BornAgain490 said:

I answered. You just don't like the answer.  

  Again, you did not answer the specific question I asked you, no matter how you try to spin it.