We need to love the murderer, rapist and mobster!

[missmuffet]

9 minutes ago, NConly said:

You and sure interpret that verse 10 different.

But that is the truth. I thank God that the blood of Jesus Christ has saved me and that I am going to heaven.

[Michael37]

55 minutes ago, missmuffet said:

So someone who is stabbing me I tell them " Oh, I am a Christian and I love you so stab me again.I know that God loves the evil person but the Bible says that God hates evil. I am only human. I am not God.

You may have heard of Corrie Ten Boom and her struggle to forgive an enemy.

 

[missmuffet]

3 minutes ago, Michael37 said:

You may have heard of Corrie Ten Boom and her struggle to forgive an enemy

 

Yes, I have. Not an easy thing for us to do as humans. I have read my books on WW 2 and the holocaust. But look what happened to Judas Iscariot.

[Michael37]

6 minutes ago, missmuffet said:

But look what happened to Judas Iscariot.

From what angle?

[missmuffet]

Just now, Michael37 said:

From what angle?

He betrayed Jesus and he suffered the consequence of his evil actions.

[Michael37]

1 minute ago, missmuffet said:

He betrayed Jesus and he suffered the consequence of his evil actions.

The death of Christ was sufficient to forgive him, but he didn't have the faith to accept the grace of the Lord Jesus Christ, only feeling remorse when repenting was beyond him.

[missmuffet]

12 minutes ago, Michael37 said:

The death of Christ was sufficient to forgive him, but he didn't have the faith to accept the grace of the Lord Jesus Christ, only feeling remorse when repenting was beyond him.

Yes

[TheBlade]

4 hours ago, hishandmaiden said:

When we see a murderer, a rapist, or a mobster, our first reaction is to be disgusted by what these people did. It is natural. God created us with conscience, and it seemed that these people have no conscience or they would not be doing what they did. Our knowledge of what good and evil is made us despised these people who seemed delighted in only doing evil and not good. We think they deserve to go to jails and even to go the electric chairs!

What we often forget is that while our own sins may seem small in our eyes, they are large and big in God's eyes. We may think we are good people, but we are sinners, too, in God's eyes, just like the murderer, rapist, mobster we despise. 

"If we say we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us." 1 John 1:8 ESV

Before we know God or receive Jesus into our lives, we are just as hopeless as the mobster, rapist or murderer we despise. Yet, God does not think we deserve to go to eternal jail, hell but deserve to be blessed with Him in our eternal home, heaven. God gives us a second chance. Jesus died on the cross and paid the penalty for our sins. God did not give us what we deserve.

So, it is important that we do not look with disdain at the murderer, rapist or mobster but we look at them with compassion, instead. We also ought not to give to them what we think they deserve--jail or electric chair but our compassions. 

 "Whoever despises his neighbor is a sinner, but blessed is he who is generous to the poor." Proverbs 14:21 ESV

God loves these hopeless scums we despise. God do not want them to perish without knowing Him. If they repent and receive Jesus into their lives, even they can be saved. They can turn from a life of crime and live a righteous and blessed life, just like us. 

"Come now, let us reason together, says the Lord:

though your sins are like scarlet,

they shall be as white as snow;

though they are red like crimson,

they shall become like wool." Isaiah 1:18 ESV

Let us care for these rapists, murderers and mobsters like the way God wants us to. Let us look at them not at what they currently are, hopeless scums but see them the way God does--- His beloved sons and daughters, who Jesus came down to die for.

"For the Son of Man came to seek and to save the lost." Luke 19:10 ESV

No sin is too great in God's eyes. Every murderer, rapist and mobster needs to know Jesus. Let us not judge them for their sins, but pray fervently for their salvations, instead. Let us not think we are more righteous than them, but remember that we are sinners like they are, until God saved us.

"Why do you see the speck that is in your brother's eye, but do not notice the log that is in your own eye?" Matthew 7: 3 ESV

We need to look at these prodigal sons and daughters from a different perspective, not as scums that deserve to be judged for their sins but as precious human beings, made in God's image, who deserve to be reconciled with God!

“Woe to you, Assyria, who conceal the unrighteous in your midst! O wicked nation, remember what I did to Sodom and Gomor′rah, whose land lies in lumps of pitch and heaps of ashes. So will I do to those who have not listened to me, says the Lord Almighty.” "But your iniquities have made a separation between you and your God, and your sins have hidden his face from you so that he does not hear." 

Lets quote Psa "The Lord examines the righteous,  but the wicked, those who love violence,  he hates with a passion." ah maybe that was the wrong version "his soul hates the lover of violence.".  Shall I go on? There are allot more. See that OT God? There is no OLD when it comes to Gods word. He is exactly the same today. Lets quote Jude "as Sodom and Gomorrah, and the cities around them in a similar manner to these, having given themselves over to sexual immorality and gone after strange flesh, are set forth as an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.".  What do we think Gods loved showed up when Christ came and died? No. 

I don't understand in the world we live in today where we have access to the world full of information. So easy..   take this "hopeless scums but see them the way God does--- His beloved sons and daughters, who Jesus came down to die for."  The bible speaks different. It does not say that anywhere. That "feeling" and thoughts like this are not of God. You that believe in Jesus Christ who came in the flesh died on the cross for the worlds sin who was buried rose the 3rd day is seated at the right hand of the Father the only way to the Father.. you, we that believe this trust in Him we are His sons and daughters. Those that do not are the wicked the lost the sinner the unrighteous and He is not for them for they are not of Him. Yet they are why He came. See He never over looked the sin but He shined the light right on it. You deal with it. you own it... you take His free gift or not. There is no over looking sin in anyway. 

See there is no "love the sinner hate the sin".. its not written for they say the phrase is thought to have originated with Augustine in the 4th or 5th cen. That sinner is doing the sin. See we get that thought to do something say something act what ever. The moment we entertain it... play with it.. its ours  and is you aka the sinner not the righteous.  No one not GOD not Satan forces us to sin for we freely do it. So with God to be saved we had to come to Him.. He put out the call.. and we listened. So what? Yeah we had to repent, to turn away from that sin. We are not longer sinners. To keep saying that .. after what Christ did. He died you died.. He rose you rose you rose its written.. so what sin can touch Him now? It can't.. He made a new you.. a new man which after GOD was is created in righteousness and true holiness. That is you. He made something new.. didn't put wine in old skins. 

This is one of those posts you know will go no where.  When you have invested allot of time in to what your doing ..  all I can say .. make sure what you say is written. Try praying seeking Him and this will take time for He does not play games. Ask Him to show you this "love"  for its not how you paint it. Not here to offend.  That light shines and sin has to flee. Muslim man.. this man in white shows up in his cell.. had holes in his hands but he said the moment that man in white shows up he new how evil how wicked unrighteous he was and ran to the corner saying forgive me forgive me I'm sorry over and over. That man in white puts His hand on his shoulder and says "I forgive you" all that fear worry vanished and peace. There's more to that true story.. I love it . that man 15+ years later cries like a baby the moment he talks about Christ showing up in his cell. Israel had him over talking when that war started.. when so many Jewish people were killed. 

God has not changed. Ananias and Sapphira .. NT were they saved? Yes.. yet they simply lied to the sweet sweet holy Spirit. We do not get on our faces and thank and praise Him. Go for it.. ask pray ask Him why that is not happening today. How many of us would be still here. His mercy His grace.. there is no sin anywhere in heaven. On earth as it is in heaven. Read the OT again.. that is the GOD in heaven. 

[In the Clouds]

This perspective may attempt to be noble; but, it's not the whole story.  There are times when a wicked person delights in evil and should be taken outside of the city and stoned to death.  Read Deuteronomy.  An unrepentant person should not be given the same consideration as someone who comes to Jesus.  Yes, we are to witness the Gospel so that none should be lost.  Not everyone will accept the Word and that disregard is on them who refuse.  There is a reason that there is a hell.  Sad but true.

[Neighbor]

8 hours ago, Michael37 said:

From what angle?

Perpendicular!