Explaining the the Parenthetical Citation chapters in the Book of Revelation The Chronological Order of the book of Revelation

[DavidReese]

On 9/23/2024 at 11:40 PM, Revelation Man said:

Rev. 1 is Jesus in all his glory as the eternal redeemer.

Rev. 2 and 3 is the Church Age, so only this part of Revelation covers the 2000 year church age.

Now we come to the main course of what the book of Revelation is all about, the future 70th week, where Jesus raptures his church to heaven for a 7 year wedding chambers wait for a Marriage Supper back on earth, at Armageddon. 

Rev. 4 & 5 go hand in hand, both are the saints/church in heaven (24 Elders) praising God & The Slain Lamb in back to back chapters which happens in the first 3.5 years of the 70th week, but it happens in heaven, not on earth, the Revelation 4:4 and Revelation 5:9-10 verses prove this.

Rev. 6 is Jesus in heaven, before God's Wrath falls at the middle of the 70th week, at the 1260 DOTL event, opening the bound up scroll that has God's Wrath contained in it. A Wax Signet Seal always bound messages, the number seven (7) signifies Divine Completion, as Jesus breaks every Seal, he foretells what will come when the 7th Seal unleashes the Trumpet judgments over in Rev. 8, that is why the 7th seal is over in Rev. 8. This of course happens just before the middle of the weeks 1260 DOTL event.

Rev. 7 is not what most people think, so its a little more detailed. It is a code for all the Jews who repent, and we know Israel repents just before the middle of the week 1260 DOTL event, by reading Zech. 13:8-9, we see the 1/3 repent, then in the very next verse we see the Day of the Lord arrives in Zech. 14:1, then in vs. 2 Jerusalem is conquered, and in vs. 3 Jesus returns 1260 days later, because this all starts in the middle of the week, on day 1260. So, these Jews who repent (the 1/3) must repent just before the DOTL, and we know Elijah is sent back before the DOTL as Malachi 4:5-6 states.

So I have figured out in the last 5 years, via an Exegesis on Dan. 11 & 12, that the 1335 Blessing is the Two-witnesses showing up to get Israel to repent. Then we come to the 1290 event, who is really just the False Prophet, who will be a Jewish High Priest, like unto Jason (real name Yeshua) who betrayed his Jewish brothers under Antiochus Epiphanes IV (AE4), so we had both Archetypes (Anti-Christ & False Prophet) living at the exact same time, which is what the shadow of things to come should be, two men, not one. Jason invited AE4 into the temple to sacrifice a pig unto Zeus, defiling the temple, thus Hanukkah is remembered today because the defiled temple had to be cleansed. Jason then mandated that all Jews become Hellenized (take on Greek culture and serve Greek gods, like he did), leading unto the Maccabean Revolt. 

So, in the end times the False Prophet will do likewise, except he will stop (take away the Sacrifice as Dan. 9:27 says) Jesus worship, and he will then place an image up in the temple, as Rev. 13 clearly states he does, the 2nd Beast gets the people to make an image of the 1st Beast. Most people think the Anti-Christ is the one who does all this at the 1290, but alas, he only comes on the scene 30 days later at the 1260, when the Rev. 8 Asteroid strikes (Wrath of God). The 1st Beast will in my honest opinion be the E.U. President, thus how does he have such a close relationship and so much pull with this Jewish High Priest/False Prophet? And how can he conquer Israel when they have Nukes? Does any thing fit? Of course it fits perfectly. The Agreement, as seen in Daniel 9:27 (Covenant/Agreement) is simply this, the E.U. gets Israel to join the European Union after the Gog & Magog war or just before the Gog war, I think just before because I think this Agreement in Dan. 9:27 angers God, and because they gave His land away, God starts up the 70th week because His anger at Israel is rekindled, and the Rapture happens at the exact same time.

To wrap up this very complicated chapter, the 144,000 are the 1/3, God was never going to give Satan 2000 years to prepare by giving him a true number, so God stated it was 1/3 in Zech. 13:8-9 and 144,000 in the book of Revelation, one was a ratio, the other a code. 12 equals Fulness 10 equals Completeness, so we get God shouting at us this is ALL Israel who repents, 12 x 12 x 10 x 10 x 10 means just that, just like the 10 Virgin Brides equals the complete Christendom, the 144,000 Male Virgins equals All Jews who repent, male and females alike. So, reread Rev. 7 now, they are never called Super Preachers, they are said to need protection from the four winds (God's Coming Wrath) so God seals them (gets them sealed via the Holy Spirit like us) and He then protects them from his coming wrath which hurts and burns the earth via the 1/3 burning Trees, the 1/3 Seas and the 1/3 Earth, I see the 1/3 as being where this asteroid hits, in the Pacific Ocean (The whole New World is the 1/3). God's Plagues will hit the Old World in a different way, He wants to preserve the Old World because Jesus will be ruling from Jerusalem for 1000 years. Basically, these 144,000 (5 Million Jews who Flee Judea for the Petra/Bosrah area) are protected by God for 1260 days these are the woman of Rev. 12, these are the ones God says “come out of her unto” (Babylon/Whole World) in Rev. 18:4. So, these Jews who repent are Sealed by the Holy Spirit then protected. Then we get a flash up, we see the Raptured Church in Rev. 7:9-16 just before the Wrath Falls in Rev. 8.

Now the Wrath begins, this chapter starts the 1260 day middle of the 70th week wrath of God. Rev. 8, 9 and 16 covers the Full 1260 days, so I will show those three first, everything else is Parenthetical in nature

Rev. 8 is the 7th seal being taken off, this starts the wrath of God, or DOTL, that is why the 7th seal is over in Rev. 8, and its also why in Rev. 7 God said hold up the four winds (Wrath of God) until we get the 144,000 (5 million Jews) sealed and protected by God Himself. So, the 7th seal had to be held up, until Rev. 7’s mission was completed by the Two-witnesses, this is also why in Rev. 11 John was told to measure the temple, the altar and those who worship therein, only Jews, were to be preach unto by these Two-witnesses, because this is their mission, just like it was Jesus' only mission, the Rapture has passed, the Angel as seen in Rev. 14:6 takes over the mission of preaching the Gospel unto the masses. In Rev. 8 we see the first four Trumps are just one asteroid being spoken about in four different phases. This first phase via Trump #1 is the 1/3 of the trees burning like Sodom burned, because of an asteroid breaking apart in our atmosphere, where sulfur balls will fall onto trees/houses and burn 1/3 of the worlds trees, I see that as a destination point also, the New World. Then in Trump #2 we get the impact, which hits in the Pacific Ocean just off the California/Mexico coastlines, and the Pacific Ocean just so happens to cover 1/3 of the worlds surface overall, hmm, that’s interesting. Then in Trump #3 we get the fallout or Wormwood that poisons the 1/3 fresh waters, or the New Worlds rivers. Then finally in Trump #4 we get the Sun & Moon darkening by 1/3, all over the world. because the smoke gets up in the Jet Streams and goes all around the whole world, of course. Then in vs. 13 it clearly states that the three Trumps yet to come are the three Woes, and only as they are sounded do we get those three Woes.

Rev. 9 is the first two woes. So, the mention of the 2nd Woe and 3rd Woe in Rev. 11 has to be a Parenthetic Citation Chapter. We see in Woe #1 that Apollyon and his hordes are released from the pit, they can not hurt people, but in the 2nd woe those 200 million can kill, I wonder why? I'll offer a thought on that, I think these Demons jobs are to get people to choose, this day whose side they will stand on, they have no power to kill, but they can hurt and maim, so, if you have not taken the mark of the Beast yet they come after you, and if you have not chosen God yet they come after you. So, why do they not just kill them? Satan wants numbers in his army, why would he kill possible future army members? Now, those who chose God he will kill as soon as they do that. These are only those who have not chosen which side they will stand on imho.

In Woe #2 we see the 200 million angels slaying 1/3 of those who have taken the mark of the Beast. Remember, Satan can not kill Satan, Jesus reminded us of this. People miss this because they see the angels bound in the Euphrates river, but its not in the river per se, read carefully, they are bound to a time.........A Day, a Month, a Year and to a season or “time” !! Not in a river per se, just to that part of the world at a certain point in time, at the Euphrates River Basin. We know verses 20-21 says these are plagues and plagues come from God. 

Rev. 15 & 16 are really one chapter, we will mostly talk about Rev. 16, but notice, in Rev. 8 the Trumpets are readied for sounding by the angels, then the trumps are sounded by the angels. In Rev. 15 the angels are readying the Vials to be poured out, then in Rev. 16 the angels actually pour out these bowls of Wrath which finish up God's Wrath, because all wrath comes from the Seven Trumps, the last three are the three Woes. The 7th Trump thus brings the 3rd Woe (remember Rev. 8:13 says so) and thus the 7 Vials are the 3rd Woe. We get the first 5 Vials, then we get a Vial for the ages, everyone thinks it really means God dries up the Euphrates so "Armies can cross" where they can get to Armageddon. But alas, these cowards are too scared to come out of their caves after the first 6 trumps, the two woes which kill 1/3 of those who took the mark of the Beast and the first 5 Vials which were grievous sores, blisters etc. etc. etc. So, what this really is, is that God’s using a metaphor of a great river to show that He will dry up, His wrath (Vials) long enough to allow Satan the Dragon, the False Prophet and the Anti-Christ to entice these evil men to come unto Armageddon via their lies, thus God can end it all in one grand spectacle as Jesus shows up at the 7th Vial to wipe them all out by his voices uttering victory, Amen. But the Euphrates river is really God’s plagues being dried up long enough to give these three entities time to lie, IMHO, they simply do this: The say, LOOK, LOOK, the Two-witnesses have died, it was them who prayed down all these plagues, and they did do that, but they prayed down the 7th Trump just before they died as Rev. 11 says, they died during the 2nd Woe, just before the 3rd Woe comes via the 7th Trump. The liars then tell these wicked men hiding in caves, hey if we go to Jerusalem and kill off every last Jews this will NEVER EVER HAPPEN AGAIN !! Lets Roll. That is when Jesus says "LETS ROLL FOR REAL" and destroys them all, in one place, Armageddon, Amen. 

The rest of the book of Revelation are Parenthetical Citation Chapters

Rev. 10 is now much easier to understand knowing that all of the wrath of God comes out of the seven Trumpet judgments. The 7 Thunders are the 7 Trumps. That is why when the 7th Thunder sounds "Time [as we now know it] will be NO MORE" in other words Satan will be cast into the pit and Jesus will be ruling. Also, now we know why the little book was sweet in John's mouth but very bitter in his stomach. The judgments are needed in order for humans in Christ to move on and live forever in the new Heaven & Earth, but John also knew that billions of human beings would be both killed and judged and thus it was a somber, and a very bitter taste unto John. Look back to the 7th seal, the Heavens were Silent for 30 minutes, IMHO, this shows the same thing, just like it repented God to have to kill all mankind save the 8 in the flood, those in Heaven take no Joy in what these judgments will bring, thus the “silence” represents their somber feelings, like being at a funeral they don't joy in this, but judgment must come to pass, because God is a Righteous Judge. Amen. So, the 7 Thunders simply speak about the 7 Trumpet judgments in full.

Rev. 11 starts 75 days before the middle of the week 1260 DOTL events. Israel has to repent, so the Two-witnesses are sent back 1335 days before the the 2nd coming, ends all these wonders/things as Dan. 12 says. This chapter is only about the 2 witnesses  1260 day ministry on earth, the reason they "die before the Beast dies" at the end of the 2nd Woe, whilst he dies at the 7th Vial, when Jesus returns, is because they show up 1335 days before the 2nd coming while the A.C. only becomes the Beast 1260 days before the 2nd coming. It all adds up via the math because its factual. God gave them both 1260 day Ordained by God offices on earth so we could juxtapose their "TIMELINES" against each other. There is no reason for the Two-witnesses with their Glorious bodies have to even die except to give us these exact timelines. We can thus know the 7th Trump/3rd Woe/7 Vials last for exactly 75 days. Below in chapters 12, 13, 17 and 18 I can show how each parallel exactly with the Rev. 8, 9 and 16’s 1260 days of God’s Wrath. 

Rev. 12 as we know is the Woman (Israel) fleeing from Judea unto the Petra/Bozrah area where God protects them from the Dragon and his Anti-Christ Army for 1260 days, so this covers the full Wrath of God period, starting in Rev. 8, and continuing through Rev. 9 and Rev. 16. Everything revolves around the middle of the week 1260 DOTL or wrath of God (Asteroid falls).

Rev. 13 of course as we know can only cover the Beasts 42 months/1260 days in office as "The Beast". So, just like Rev. 12 this chapters covers the exact same timeframe as Rev. 8, 9 and 16 combined. Its quite simple really, at least to me. He will kill and maim for 1260 days, which brings famine, death, wars, etc. etc. 

Rev. 14 like Rev. 19 is a tad different in nature, it covers the full 7 years of the 70th week, because of a certain flashback Rapture. This is designated as the Harvest Chapter by me, so we need all three harvests, and they happen at different times, so we get a flashback. We see the 144,000 (5 million Jews) awaiting Jesus on the holy mount, but in reality they are in the Petra/Bozrah area, and we know this because Jesus comes unto them with a blood stained white garment on, signifying he's killed the wicked at Armageddon before going to gather them (The Wheat who grows with the tares until the end) into His Fathers barn. They are shown on the holy mount because Israel will rule with Jesus for 1000 years from Jerusalem, Amen. Then in verses 17-20 we see the wicked grapes are judged/killed, these are likened unto the wicked tares. Yes, they will be killed, but they will only be judged 1000 years later and then burned later on, just like the wicked tares are bound to be burned later. So we have two that grew together "until the end" being judged. But in order to get the full perspective on the Harvest Chapter God has to give us the very first "Cinematic Flashback" in history, God then shows us the pre 70th week Rapture of the Church in verse 14, where Jesus himself thrusts in the sickle and harvests the church age believes. That is why I say this Harvest Chapter covers the full 7 years.

Rev. 17 lasts 42 months also, this is God telling us who the Harlot is in big bright lights, she is ALL False Religion of all time, but this story line mainly revolves around the 42 months in which the 10 (E.U.) Kings/Powers (10 = Completion) destroy the Harlot, kill her off, burn her up, but why? Why after eons of the Harlot riding the Beasts back (see vs. 7) do they all of the sudden turn against her? Turn against the Zeus and Jupiter types, and the Islam, Buddhism and Hindu types. Because there is now no place for them because this one man (like Antiochus) considers himself to be the ONLY GOD !! Antiochus however had Rome to deal with and never got to fulfill his deep dark intentions, he however called himself God, as the name implies.

Apollyon is the Scarlet Colored Beast, that's why in Rev. 17 no crowns are spoken of, as in Rev. 12 where the crowns are on the 7 Heads because the Dragon Satan is over all Kingdoms on earth as we saw in Luke 4. Then in Rev. 13 we see the crowns on the 10 horns/kings because the Anti-Christ will be over the E.U. which is a part the 7th Head that the Dragon is also over, along with the A.C. Remember, both Dan. 8 and Rev. 13 says the Dragon/Satan gives him his power !! The MYSTERY is who the Harlot is defined as by three descriptors. MYSTERY is a Header then we get the three descriptors. 

1.) Babylon the Great (She was world renowned for her FALSE RELIGION )

2.) Mother of Harlots (FALSE RELIGION was of course the original Harlotry)

3.) Abominations of the Earth (God is a jealous God and He hates FALSE RELIGION)

So, the Harlot is identified as ALL False Religion of All Time, thus she has the blood of the [Jewish] Saints AND the blood of the Martyrs of Christ on her hands. She is thus on many waters because False Religion is of course all over the whole world. She is Scarlet and Purple because those two colors were very exclusive, one came from rare bugs, the other came from seeds from a rare bush in Egypt, so, only Royal's and Orders of the Priesthood's could afford to wear them, so the Scarlet and Purple reference is God saying the Harlot (FALSE RELIGION ) rides the backs or is comingled with the [Government] Beasts. Its not the RCC per se. She has bad ways now, but the RCC was God's design to take the Gospel unto the whole world via the Pax Romanus System they set up. They were the Beast who received the “mortal wound”, we the Church delivered it unto them, we turned the Beast from a Beast unto a vehicle or conveyor belt that delivered the Gospel unto the whole world. Satan will not over come my Church Jesus said, Amen. 

Rev. 18, Babylon equals the Whole World being judged, not ONE CITY !! This occurs over a 42 month period beginning of course when the Rev. 8 Asteroid makes impact, as does Rev. 17 begin at that time also. We can see in vs. 2 that Babylon (the world) has become a Habitation of devils, well of course she has, Satan is cast down at the exact mid point of the 70th week (1260 events) and Apollyon and his demon hordes are freed from the pit a smidge later at the 1st Woe. In vs. 4 we see God says "Come out of her my people that yo receive not of her plagues and judgments". As I mentioned in the Rev. 7 portion above, that is God telling the Jews who repented to flee from Judea into the Petra/Bozrah area, where God protects them how long? 1260 days !! See how the 1260 is KEY to everything in Revelation? And this is why the 1260 is mentioned in Daniel 12 also. God in verses 8 and 10 then says Babylon (world) will be judged in “one day” and in “one hour”, but how can that be? Well, the Day of the Lord equals 1260 days and the one hour also equals 1260 days. How so? Read Rev. 17:12, the 10 kings rule how long with the Beast? One hour, and we know the Beast rules for 42 months or 1260 days right? See how God always tells us these things if we just listen carefully? The rest of this chapter is mostly just prose, with God foretelling us how the hearts of wicked men who so loved this evil world will cry and lament at her demise and burning, they loved this evil world more than they loved God, and thus they are in terrible straights now. The last 2 or 3 verses also tell that us during this 70th week time the Bride and Groom will be found nowhere on this earth, our light will have left this earth, because we are in Heaven, having married the Lamb, we will then reside in the Fathers wedding chambers for 7 years. 

Rev. 19, like Rev. 14 covers the full 7 years because in Rev. 4:4 we see the Church already has on white raiment/robes and thus Rev. 19 has to happen before Rev. 4:4. Then we the Church return with Jesus in our white robes, which Rev. 19 says is the Righteousness of the Saints. We then are seen at the Marriage Supper on earth (Armageddon) where Jesus destroys the enemies armies by speaking victory like he spoke Creation, Amen. 

Rev. 20, 21 and 22 is the Judgment, Ever after and the New Heaven & New Earth. Amen. 

Hello Revelation. So your post assumes the Jesus did not fulfill the prophesy of the 70,s in Daniel. Can you show me where that it was not fulfilled, my understanding says it is complete. Thank you.

[WilliamL]

1 hour ago, DavidReese said:

Hello Revelation. So your post assumes the Jesus did not fulfill the prophesy of the 70,s in Daniel. Can you show me where that it was not fulfilled, my understanding says it is complete. Thank you.

Here:

44. Daniel 9:24-27 Examined, Part 46: Do Verses 26b-27 Prophesy Future Events?

Lists the seven specific prophecies found in Daniel 9:26b-27, and tests whether the belief that they will be fulfilled in the future can be substantiated by other biblical End Time prophecies. https://www.worthychristianforums.com/blogs/entry/1605-daniel-924-27-examined-part-6-do-verses-26b-27-prophesy-future-events/

45. Daniel 9:24-27 Examined, Part 7: Were Verses 26b-27 Fulfilled Historically?

Tests the view that the seven prophesied events were fulfilled during the Jewish War of 66-73 A.D. Also, explains the reason for the time-gap between the 69th and 70th weeks. https://worthychristianforums.com/blogs/entry/1611-daniel-924-27-examined-part-7-were-verses-26b-27-fulfilled-historically/

[Revelation Man]

2 hours ago, DavidReese said:

Hello Revelation. So your post assumes the Jesus did not fulfill the prophesy of the 70,s in Daniel. Can you show me where that it was not fulfilled, my understanding says it is complete. Thank you.

WilliamL has given you some links, I will just copy & paste a 7-8 year old blog of mine, its pretty tight on this subject already.

Daniel's 70 Weeks Decree against Israel

In Daniel 9:24, Daniel prophesied that these six things must come to pass before this judgment against Israel would be fulfilled. Some think Jesus fulfilled all of these, most seem to think, as I do, that these things have not come yet to pass, and when they do that will be the end of the age.

All six of these power points below means the 70th week can not end until they indeed come to pass. None have yet.

1. Finish the transgression (Israel must repent)
2. Make and end of sins (Willful sins must stop)
3. To make reconciliation for iniquity (Israel must accept Jesus)
4. Bring in everlasting righteousness (Jesus must set up his everlasting Kingdom)

5. To seal up vision and prophecy (All prophesy must be fulfilled)

6. Anoint the most Holy (I see this as Jesus being anointed King of Kings and Lord of lords, the original Hebrew says MOST HOLY, not most holy place. And we know Kings are anointed with oil)

1. The Hebrew word used for transgression denotes revolt or rebellion. The Jewish people chose to reject God, many chose to stay in Babylon once they were freed. It also denotes their rejection of Jesus Christ. Jesus prophesied in Matthew 23:39 that the Jewish people would not see him again until they accepted him. 39 For I say unto you, Ye shall not see me henceforth, till ye shall say, Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord. So in order for Jesus to return, Israel has to repent of their rejection of God and Jesus, and Israel will open their hearts to the Messiah, as Paul, Isaiah and Zechariah (Zechariah 12:10) prophesied, among others.

2. This is fairly straightforward, willful sins can only end when the millennial reign starts, so by the time this 70 week decree is over, Jesus will have returned to set up his kingdom, ushering in the millennial kingdom where there will be no more willful sins. Since the tribulation week is the last week of the 70 weeks decree, that makes perfect sense, as soon as the tribulation period ends, or the “time of Jacob’s trouble”, then “willful sins will end”.

3. Israel has to be reconciled unto God before the 70 weeks have been fulfilled. There is no doubt that Jesus died for all of our sins, thus the atonement for sins has been made, but there is a conditional requirement for all of us to receive that atonement, we must accept Jesus as our Savior. When Israel accepts the Messiah Jesus, as their Messiah, then the atonement for sins will have been completed, and Israel will have been reconciled unto God, thereby ushering in the millennial kingdom.

4. This 70 week decree has to bring in everlasting righteousness, and we know this can not happen until Jesus sets up his Kingdom. This world has always had willful sin, and always will until Jesus is Lord of Lords and King of Kings. By the time Daniels prophecy ends, it must usher in everlasting righteousness.

5. Seal up vision and prophecy, the word used here denotes to close up, meaning that before this 70th week can come to an end, all prophecy must be fulfilled or closed up. This will only happen when Israel accepts Jesus as their Messiah and he lands on Mt. Zion to rule over this wicked world with a rod of iron.

6. The very last goal that this 70 week prophecy has to usher in is the anointing of the most holy. The bible says most holy, many try to add holy place, but whether it is the temple being anointed, or Jesus Christ as Lord of Lord and Kings of Kings as I suspect, we know this must happen before the 70 weeks decree is fulfilled. And Jesus must return and rule on earth.

All six of these things have to happen before this prophecy is fulfilled. These are six spiritual goals that have to come to pass or this prophecy will not be finished or sealed up. We know these things have not come to pass yet, but we also know they are very near to happening, therefore watch, for Israel is now a nation again, and the world is against her, soon she will need her Messiah s help, then she will call upon him, and he will save her from this wicked world.

[TCC]

12 hours ago, Revelation Man said:

Yes indeed, they are the 1335 Blessing. In Daniel 12 we are given the key to unlock all the end time event timings. The problem is everyone deduced the Little Horn as being the 1260, via other scriptures. But no one ever understood (they still don't, via that Exegesis I linked you to God gave me the answer) the 1290 comes before the 1260, here is why CONFIRMATION BIAS we all thought the 1290 had to be the Anti-Christ standing in the temple, defiling the temple, but it can not be him if the 1290 happens 30 days before the Beast conquers Israel at the 1260 middle of the week events, so people are blinded by a "fact" they think they know, which is not true. Its the False Prophet who takes away the Sacrifice, which only means he's a Jewish High Priest like unto Jason who threw in with Antiochus, who welcomed Antiochus into the temple of God to sacrifice a pig unto Zeus, which is why the Jews celebrate Hanukkah today, they had to cleanse the temple. So, Antiochus and Jason were the archetypes of the coming Anti-Christ and False Prophet.

So, here is how it will all go down soon, Israel will join the E.U. (Daniel 9;27 Agreement) and thus this E.U. President (AC) has some pull over them, see my point? So, the Two-witnesses show up 1185 days into this Agreement or 1335 days before the 2nd coming ENDS ALL THESE WONDERS/THINGS (Dan. 12:6 and 12:8-13). Their one job is to turn Israel back unto God, and they do, so says Zech. 13:8-9 where we see 1/3 (5 million) repent THEN in the very next verse (Zech. 14:1) we see the Day of the Lord ARRIVES, so Israel repents just before God's Wrath falls at the 1260 middle of the week. Now lets add it all up. Does it all fit, I tried the spirits...yes it fits.

How does Israel Flee Judea if they do not understand Matt. 24:15-17? They know that via reading the New Testament after they repent and the 1/3 have been told by Elijah and Moses (imho), what to look for, via the AoD. So, if they see the AC doing this AoD why would he just allow them to flee Judea? BUT....if its the False Prophet who forbids Jesus Worship in "his temple" and he then cheekily places an IMAGE of the E.U. President up in the temple, then the Jews who see this will know, we have 30 days from this point to Flee Judea before the AC/Beast Conquers Israel. See how it all works hand in hand? 

And the Two-witnesses MUST SHOW UP BEFORE the Beast does, but why? The TIMELINE !! They both have 1260 day ordained offices on earth, since the Two-witnesses DIE FIRST, they also have to show up first. The 1335 comes before the 1260. Now reread Dan. 9:27 it says HE CAUSES...........he causes the Sacrifice to be taken away, he put political pressure on the False Prophet/Jewish High Priest who probably also gets pressured from some Liberal Politician/Prime Minister. The 1290 is not the AC, he only comes to power 30 days later. Then read Rev. 13 who places the IMAGE? The 2nd Beast/False Prophet gets the people to place an image of the First Beast [up in the temple].

So, why is this so hard to get? God had to keep it under wraps, until John, when he finally told about the coming False Prophet. Because by that time Israel was no more a Nation. If God had given Daniel these answers in  full, then every other High Priest for the next 500 years might have been killed, remember when King Herod tried to kill baby Jesus because of the Prophesy? The Jews would have been looking for this "False Prophet High Priest" and that would have endangered every High Priests life, so God only gave them a number, the 1290, not the Identity. He told John  the name of "False Prophet" who looks like a Lamb but is really a Dragon. 

The Two-witnesses only two jobs are to get Israel to repent AND pray down all of God's Wrath. They die at the 2nd woe because they have just prayed down the 3rd Woe. They have glorious bodies, there is really no need for them to die, Angels can't be killed "really". So why do they "die"? So God can JUXTAPOSE for us, the Beasts 1260 day timeline against the Two-witnesses 1260 day timeline which gives us all of our TIMING ANSWERS. We should know the 3rd Woe lasts 75 days because the Two-witnesses show up 75 days (1335) before the Beast (1260) and thus they have to die 75 days before the Beast dies at the end of the 3rd Woe/7th Vial. Numbers are weird if one knows how to use them. So much info can be put forth with numbers. 

Thanks. I am going to process that. What do you do with the 144k being protected during the trumpets though? Blessings. 

[Revelation Man]

18 hours ago, TCC said:

Thanks. I am going to process that. What do you do with the 144k being protected during the trumpets though? Blessings. 

In the OP (POST), I explain the 144,000 in full and who they are.

So, are the 10 Virgins only 10 Female Virgins, or do they represent the Complete Church in all Christendom? Both Male and Female!! 

Likewise, God gave us two numbers, the 144,000 and a ratio, 1/3 in Zechariah. He was never going to give Satan 2000 years to plan for a certain number per se. So, God used a ratio (1/3) and he used a CODE in the 144,000 to represent all Israel who repents, just like the number 10 means the "Complete Church".

12 = Fulness and 10 = Completeness

12 x 12 x 10 x 10 x 10 = ALL Israel who repents, not 144,000 Virgin men, they are Washed in Jesus blood that represents a Virgin, just like the 10 Virgin Brides symbolize the church being made pure in the blood of Christ. God does not pick out who chooses to come to him, all men are free to do so, PERFECT NUMBERS would mean God chooses. Likewise, the 144,000 number used to measure New Jerusalem is simply God saying Fulness x Completeness, its probably a number we can not understand tbh.

Virgin men were used because Israel were the first called out ones, or separated unto God. The church came next. 

Edited October 3, 2024 by Revelation Man

[DavidReese]

13 hours ago, Revelation Man said:

WilliamL has given you some links, I will just copy & paste a 7-8 year old blog of mine, its pretty tight on this subject already.

Daniel's 70 Weeks Decree against Israel

In Daniel 9:24, Daniel prophesied that these six things must come to pass before this judgment against Israel would be fulfilled. Some think Jesus fulfilled all of these, most seem to think, as I do, that these things have not come yet to pass, and when they do that will be the end of the age.

All six of these power points below means the 70th week can not end until they indeed come to pass. None have yet.

1. Finish the transgression (Israel must repent)
2. Make and end of sins (Willful sins must stop)
3. To make reconciliation for iniquity (Israel must accept Jesus)
4. Bring in everlasting righteousness (Jesus must set up his everlasting Kingdom)

5. To seal up vision and prophecy (All prophesy must be fulfilled)

6. Anoint the most Holy (I see this as Jesus being anointed King of Kings and Lord of lords, the original Hebrew says MOST HOLY, not most holy place. And we know Kings are anointed with oil)

1. The Hebrew word used for transgression denotes revolt or rebellion. The Jewish people chose to reject God, many chose to stay in Babylon once they were freed. It also denotes their rejection of Jesus Christ. Jesus prophesied in Matthew 23:39 that the Jewish people would not see him again until they accepted him. 39 For I say unto you, Ye shall not see me henceforth, till ye shall say, Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord. So in order for Jesus to return, Israel has to repent of their rejection of God and Jesus, and Israel will open their hearts to the Messiah, as Paul, Isaiah and Zechariah (Zechariah 12:10) prophesied, among others.

2. This is fairly straightforward, willful sins can only end when the millennial reign starts, so by the time this 70 week decree is over, Jesus will have returned to set up his kingdom, ushering in the millennial kingdom where there will be no more willful sins. Since the tribulation week is the last week of the 70 weeks decree, that makes perfect sense, as soon as the tribulation period ends, or the “time of Jacob’s trouble”, then “willful sins will end”.

3. Israel has to be reconciled unto God before the 70 weeks have been fulfilled. There is no doubt that Jesus died for all of our sins, thus the atonement for sins has been made, but there is a conditional requirement for all of us to receive that atonement, we must accept Jesus as our Savior. When Israel accepts the Messiah Jesus, as their Messiah, then the atonement for sins will have been completed, and Israel will have been reconciled unto God, thereby ushering in the millennial kingdom.

4. This 70 week decree has to bring in everlasting righteousness, and we know this can not happen until Jesus sets up his Kingdom. This world has always had willful sin, and always will until Jesus is Lord of Lords and King of Kings. By the time Daniels prophecy ends, it must usher in everlasting righteousness.

5. Seal up vision and prophecy, the word used here denotes to close up, meaning that before this 70th week can come to an end, all prophecy must be fulfilled or closed up. This will only happen when Israel accepts Jesus as their Messiah and he lands on Mt. Zion to rule over this wicked world with a rod of iron.

6. The very last goal that this 70 week prophecy has to usher in is the anointing of the most holy. The bible says most holy, many try to add holy place, but whether it is the temple being anointed, or Jesus Christ as Lord of Lord and Kings of Kings as I suspect, we know this must happen before the 70 weeks decree is fulfilled. And Jesus must return and rule on earth.

All six of these things have to happen before this prophecy is fulfilled. These are six spiritual goals that have to come to pass or this prophecy will not be finished or sealed up. We know these things have not come to pass yet, but we also know they are very near to happening, therefore watch, for Israel is now a nation again, and the world is against her, soon she will need her Messiah s help, then she will call upon him, and he will save her from this wicked world.

Thank you so much Revelation. I see that Jesus has finished all the power points plus the end.

²⁴ Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy.

²⁵ Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince shall be seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks: the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times.

And this also fulfilled because the end being a flood ( war )

²⁶ And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined.

And the interpretation of flood in Daniel is the same in Revelation as it is said below.

¹⁵ And the serpent cast out of his mouth water as a flood after the woman, that he might cause her to be carried away of the flood.¹⁶ And the earth helped the woman, and the earth opened her mouth, and swallowed up the flood which the dragon cast out of his mouth.

458BC  to 33AD equals 490 years.

Thanks again Revelation Man. Just wondered how you came to that conclusion.

[Revelation Man]

1 hour ago, DavidReese said:

Thank you so much Revelation. I see that Jesus has finished all the power points plus the end.

 

Yes, I know how some people think on this, but the prophesy is not about Jesus, he is one of THREE MARKERS, The Wall, The Messiah and The Agreement between the AC and Israel. Look at how the prophesy starts out, "Seventy weeks (7s really) are determined upon THY PEOPLE and Jerusalem. The prophesy is not really about Jesus but instead about the Jewish people and thus Jerusalem. I will breakdown the whole passage to show what it means in real time below. There is one verse to many, imho, verse 26 should be split up between verses 25 and 27 with each taking a portion unto themselves. A flood is merely a way of saying an Army floods in and conquers. 

Dan. 9:25 Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince(dies as DESCRIBED BELOW) shall be seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks:(This is one continuous prophecy that is why its put together) the street shall be built again(49 years or 7 x 7), and the wall, even in troublous times.26 And after threescore and two weeks(434 years or 7 x 62) shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: 

So, this is why half of verse 26 goes with verse 25 and half should go with vs. 27, the above is put forth together as a prophesy where after 49 years AND 434 years Jesus is killed, not for himself but for mankind's sins.

 

and the people(Romans) of the prince(AC) that shall come(In 2000 some odd years out of the E.U.) shall destroy the city and the sanctuary(So, the Romans shall destroy Jerusalem and the Temple in 70 AD, they are the people via the E.U. where the Anti-Christ shall arise at the very end of time or NOW); and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined(This is not Rev. 12, just because they used flood for Army, this was the sacking of Jerusalem in 70 AD). 27 And he shall confirm the covenant(Agreement) with many(Israel AND the whole Mediterranean Sea Region) for one week(7 years): and in the midst(1290 not the exact middle) of the week he shall cause the sacrifice(Jesus Worship is Forbidden by the False Prophet) and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate(The AC defiles the Temple), even until the consummation(until God's Wrath is consumed or finished), and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.

Do me a favor, take the Church Age out of existence, look at the Statue then, it goes from Roman Iron Legs to Iron (Rome/E.U.) and Clay feet & toes, but why? Well Clay represents old Rome reuniting, but after 1600 years of not being together, they have become individual nations (many SEEDS) trying to be one nation, which makes the Kingdom brittle, easily breakable, and Jesus will smash it when he returns. 

Now do the same thing with Rev. 7, the Four Beasts have 10 Horns (10 = Completion, so Complete Europe Reunites) and a Man Beast arises amongst them, so he's born in the E.U.(Dan. 8:9 mandates he has to be born in Greece). The E.U. will Conquer the whole Mediterranean Sea Region as Dan. 11:40-43 shows us.

[farouk]

I think a lot depends on whether one thinks that in the scheme of Scripture interpretation the church and Israel are distinct.

This makes a lot of difference.

[TCC]

11 hours ago, Revelation Man said:

In the OP (POST), I explain the 144,000 in full and who they are.

So, are the 10 Virgins only 10 Female Virgins, or do they represent the Complete Church in all Christendom? Both Male and Female!! 

Likewise, God gave us two numbers, the 144,000 and a ration, 1/3 in Zechariah. He was never going to give Satan 2000 years to plan for a certain number per se. So, God used a ratio (1/3) and he used a CODE in the 144,000 to represent all Israel who repents, just like the number 10 means the "Complete Church".

12 = Fulness and 10 = Completeness

12 x 12 x 10 x 10 x 10 = ALL Israel who repents, not 144,000 Virgin men, they are Washed in Jesus blood that represents a Virgin, just like the 10 Virgin Brides symbolize the church being made pure in the blood of Christ. God does not pick out who chooses to come to him, all men are free to do so, PERFECT NUMBERS would mean God chooses. Likewise, the 144,000 number used to measure New Jerusalem is simply God saying Fulness x Completeness, its probably a number we can not understand tbh.

Virgin men were used because Israel were the first called out ones, or separated unto God. The church came next. 

Thanks. Yeah i remember reading that. Its not so much the number but the concept that is not so clear. If the Jews are sealed and protected during the trumpets, and the two witnesses come in the second half to call Israel to repentance, would the bulk of them not already be sealed upon the two witnesses arrival? Or in what sense of affect do the two witnesses have on a sealed large community of Jews during the trumpets though? Thanks brother. Blessings. 

[Revelation Man]

1 hour ago, TCC said:

Thanks. Yeah i remember reading that. Its not so much the number but the concept that is not so clear. If the Jews are sealed and protected during the trumpets, and the two witnesses come in the second half to call Israel to repentance, would the bulk of them not already be sealed upon the two witnesses arrival? Or in what sense of affect do the two witnesses have on a sealed large community of Jews during the trumpets though? Thanks brother. Blessings. 

No, the Two-witnesses shows up 75 days before thr A.C. conquers Israel to become "The BEAST" 

1335 - 75 = 1260. Each number given is that many days until the 2nd coming of Jesus