i knew this was going to happen

[NConly]

On 11/26/2024 at 10:23 AM, Vine Abider said:

Personally I see much of this as a negotiating tactic to get other countries' attention and get them to do what he wants, hopefully without having to do tariffs. And maybe I'm unaware, but is Canada that big of an issue regarding fentanyl or immigration?  Mexico and China, yes, but Canada?  In any case, I suspect what comes through the northern border to be a small percentage of what happens across the southern border . . .

The immigration problem with Canada is they are allowing people from other countries into Canada and then they come to America illegally, they do not stay in Canada.  Mexico does the same as Canada with the added affect of Mexicans also coming illegally to America.

[NConly]

On 11/27/2024 at 5:55 AM, Neighbor said:

Hi, I'm not understanding how tariffs keep illegals out. Seems to me that if manufacturing returns to the USA  then the USA will need a larger labor force requiring immigrants to fill the need for some labor. Americans ( In general) aren't going to "labor". Will robotics do all the labor related work?

 

According to what I have seen on the news Canada and Mexico were doing nothing to stop the people from other countries crossing their country to get into U.S.A. Then after threatened with tariffs both countries started being more strict on the flow through their Country.

Edited February 4 by NConly
Correction

[NConly]

On 11/26/2024 at 3:15 PM, TheBlade said:

Well just like VA's picture just put up our hands and enjoy the ride for there is nothing our God can not do. Trump bringing back the bible.. ooh I liked that.. 

Yes I like it too. Dei is misunderstood by many it seems to me. The term Normal for millennia has been a man a wife and a family. Dei is the new push to integrate what has not been normal into the standard of being called normal. They want people to just surrender their morals and say we accept your way of life as normal and we accept the fact that when you sing the song "we are coming for your children" accept it and do not fight back.

 

 

[teddyv]

9 hours ago, NConly said:

According to what I have seen on the news Canada and Mexico were doing nothing to stop the people from other countries crossing their country to get into U.S.A. the after threatened with tariffs both countries started being more strict on the flow through their Country.

The flow of immigrants from Canada is miniscule to that of the southern border. Not that it doesn't happen, but it's not the same scale. Also, the drug trade, particularly fentanyl, was also cited as concern. Reports put a total of 19kg seized at the Can-US border last year versus >9000 kg at the US-Mex border. 

[NConly]

22 minutes ago, teddyv said:

The flow of immigrants from Canada is miniscule to that of the southern border. Not that it doesn't happen, but it's not the same scale. Also, the drug trade, particularly fentanyl, was also cited as concern. Reports put a total of 19kg seized at the Can-US border last year versus >9000 kg at the US-Mex border. 

No one said there was a difference in number of illegals entering the U.S. from either country. My post is correct the news reported that illegals were coming in from both borders. Minuscule as some may be they can still be very dangerous as terrorist.  i agree with the Press Secretary as she said " if they came across our border illegally they broke our law and should be sent back home.

 

[Neighbor]

"Trump is bringing back the Bible."  ??? Well in a sense yes, at least awareness of the ten  commandments and the application  of them. The tenth being perhaps the most important of all ten. it is internally applied whereas the other nine have external and internal manifestation.

You shall not covet.

But but I want Greenland. Surely I can take another's national territory if I want it and can overpower those that have it.

 

[Ghostdog]

29 minutes ago, Neighbor said:

.Surely I can take another's national territory if I want it and can overpower those that have it.

 

isnt that the american way since 1400s

[Neighbor]

What  ifs; What if new coalitions form between nations excluding the USA? What if Canada cooperates with China establishing East-West routes of trade instead of North South  routes.

What if Mexico joins say India in a freetrade pact? The USA might find itself quickly alone in this world. It's former glory, as one of the most generous  peoples, shattered. What Mexico provides the USA and what  Canada provides the USA cannot quickly be replaced, perhaps can never be.

To go from sharing often even  sacrificially  much like what Paul urged of  the churches, to sharing nothing, nothing at all, is a shame.  From the Marshall Plan to Musk/Trump -ism. Wow how the USA has already fallen.  

ll under the guise of stopping fentanyl? What of stopping the buyers of illegal drugs instead of calling  the purchase and use a illness make it a serious crime to be a customer. If there are no customers there will be no product produced.

What is making  the people of the USA so  eager to be drugged? ??? Maybe work on changing that. Maybe pray for and be led to a real return to Biblical values and not just a selling  of a cowboy singer's Bible  with a signed presidential portrait inside along with the latest MAGA hat.

America  is in deep deep trouble with our LORD for is sinning  greatly in it's coveting instead of thanking God for His provisions. Even artificial intelligence knows better than to be coveting, or at least knows what  it is: "You shall not covet" is the tenth commandment from the Bible, which instructs individuals not to have an excessive desire for what belongs to others, including their neighbor's house, spouse, or possessions. This commandment emphasizes the importance of controlling one's thoughts and desires to prevent envy and greed.

 

[Neighbor]

7 minutes ago, Ghostdog said:

isnt that the american way since 1400s

Not only American. None the less it is coveting to look at the land of another peoples and decide hey that is good land I want it. To desire what is another's is the sin of the 10th commandment. That sin leads to the physical manifestations of the other nine, including murder and theft.

[Desopixi Seilynam]

The Simpsons episode "Bart to the future" foreshadows that after a Trump presidency would be a female president and that the country would be broke.