Is it offensive to Jesus for countries to deport immigrants in mass numbers?

[Marston]

As an American Christian I am a bit torn on this. I don't know that the Bible adequately addresses this matter. It's one thing to subsidize refugees of war or famine but 99.99% of the migrants to the U.S. are people looking for better economic opportunities. We already have MILLIONS of Americans who are doing without adequate food, shelter, and medical care. Our national debt is in the stratosphere and we simply cannot afford to provide for millions and millions of poor foreigners. 

Do you believe that it's offensive to Jesus when we send them back to their countries?  

[Who me]

11 minutes ago, Marston said:

. We already have MILLIONS of Americans who are doing without adequate food, shelter, and medical care. Our national debt is in the stratosphere and we simply cannot afford to provide for millions and millions of poor foreigners

This is a problem for all western nations. An influx of economic migrants, some are genuine refugees fleeing persecutions on political or religious grounds, most have paid gangs to transport them from their home to a selected destination some where in the west.

 

How should we treat them?

 

I believe that those who pay to be transported to a better economic future should be deported. Those who flee real oppression should be assessed and offered shelter.

[Marston]

28 minutes ago, Who me said:

This is a problem for all western nations. An influx of economic migrants, some are genuine refugees fleeing persecutions on political or religious grounds, most have paid gangs to transport them from their home to a selected destination some where in the west.

 

How should we treat them?

 

I believe that those who pay to be transported to a better economic future should be deported. Those who flee real oppression should be assessed and offered shelter.

 

I agree with you but, does Jesus? 

 

[ayin jade]

As someone who lives in a border state and has seen the problems illegal immigration brings .....

It has been claimed they just want  a better life, or that they are refugees, but what we see here is different. Many are not living peacably among us (as the bible says they need to) and just grab what they can get. There are areas of my state off limits to americans because it is a major route for illegals and the crime associated with their incursion. The feds even posted signs warning americans to keep out of federal land that is used  by illegals. Just today I read of a group of hikers attacked in america by cartels. One had to be airlifted to a hospital. There is a lot of crime associated with the invasion from mexico. For instance, there was a beheading just a few miles from my home several years ago. A family member was nearly killed by an illegal. Cops in the southern part of my state have bounties on them, from the cartels. Just like it is in mexico. Ranchers get threatened, have their homes damaged, and some are even killed, by illegals near the border. I have had to go through as many as 4 armed checkpoints in one day traveling in my state, because of illegal trafficking.

It got so much worse under biden. It needs to stop.

There are legal ways to come in. 

[TheBlade]

We have always had a law if you want to come in to America as in since 1924.  The simple fact is we obey all mans laws. This law does not go against the word of God. Then anyone can come in you just have to obey the law. It can take time. 

[Marston]

16 minutes ago, ayin jade said:

There are legal ways to come in. 

Indeed. My wife is a Mexican national who came here LEGALLY and was granted permanent residency. Our two children are bilingual Americans and incessantly make fun of her English and my Spanish! Little snots! 

[Cyoder]

I think Jesus would show compassion to those who deserve it.  Military aged, healthy, single males need to go.  Criminals need to go.  People unwilling to work need to go.  Everyone else should be given an opportunity to stay.  Offer them work visas and if they can stay out of trouble and support themselves for five years, offer them a chance to become a citizen.  I think it's the only thing that makes sense.  It's impossible to deport millions of people.  

[Neighbor]

14 hours ago, Marston said:

As an American Christian I am a bit torn on this. I don't know that the Bible adequately addresses this matter. It's one thing to subsidize refugees of war or famine but 99.99% of the migrants to the U.S. are people looking for better economic opportunities. We already have MILLIONS of Americans who are doing without adequate food, shelter, and medical care. Our national debt is in the stratosphere and we simply cannot afford to provide for millions and millions of poor foreigners. 

Do you believe that it's offensive to Jesus when we send them back to their countries?  

There are many millions of native born USA breeders that will not work period. That  is an offense, one that should not be enabled by government programs nor by charities including Christian church bodies. 

It is one thing to require the corners of the fields to be left for gleaning by the poor, another altogether to feed those that will not glean for themsleves, their families, widows and orphans.

 

[BibleStudent100]

13 hours ago, ayin jade said:

As someone who lives in a border state and has seen the problems illegal immigration brings .....

Thank you for sharing Ayin;

Your insight provides perspective and context.  

[BibleStudent100]

14 hours ago, Marston said:

As an American Christian I am a bit torn on this. I don't know that the Bible adequately addresses this matter.

I am a Spanish teacher at the high school and college level who married a woman, whose parents are Mexican nationals and so I have a unique perspective.  I FEEL for these individuals who are looking for a better economic future, which is the MAIN reason the VAST majority of people cross the border illegally.  Still, as vast a country as the US is, there are still limits on how "hospitable" we can be.  Just as all of us could probably take in one family who needs help because of a burned out home, could we take on ten families?  There are limits to what we can do to help others from other countries.

Still, there can be unforeseen consequences:  there are MANY jobs that need to be done in the US that require low-level skills (e.g.service industry jobs, crop picking) and without this workforce willing to do these jobs, are we willing to pay MORE for hotels, restaurants, etc?  Something to ponder...

Bottom line:  I'm torn...