Christ's kingdom will never be physically on this earth

[timf]

This is straight from AI :

This seems to be said with the reverence one might expect for the bible. It is scary how many are turning to AI instead of the bible or AI to explain the bible.

[Luther]

11 hours ago, Montana Marv said:

As I said before;  The Abrahamic Covenant is three fold. 

1. A People, the 12 Tribes from Jacob/Israel.  Children are still being born under this promise.  Yes today.  This has not been fulfilled by Christ.  Ongoing.  

2.  A Land, west of the Jordan River, still there.  Most is now occupied by the 12 Tribes.  Only one problem; the enemy still lurks in their land.  Hamas still in Gaza.  See what is happening, Hamas and the Palestinian's are being rooted out of the Land.  Why?  To fulfill Ezk 38:11 - You will say, I will invade a land of unwalled villages, I will attack peaceful and unsuspecting people, all of them living without walls and without gates and bars.  No enemy within, no walls or gates needed.  Not fulfilled by Christ.

3. A Blessing, which is Jesus Christ the Messiah.

In Christ

Montana Marv

 

This is what Judaism teaches, not Christianity, Marv.

[Montana Marv]

10 hours ago, kwikphilly said:

Blessings Marb

All things ,all the Law ,all the Prophets are Full filled in Christ Jesus- past,present & future..... Though we may not see the manifestation of what will yet unfold before our eyes of flesh upon this temporal earth and in this carnal state bound by space & time..... it's Already Done in Christ

In His Love,Kwik

That may be so because there is no time with the Godhead.  The outcome is already determined. Yet the circumstances of Prophecies are still to be unfolded as we see them.

Rev 1:3 - Blessed is the one who reads the words of this prophecy, and blessed are those who hear it and take it to heart what is written in it, because the time is near. (almost 1930 plus years to us)

Even though everything is in Christ Jesus, and all things have been determined by Him; We do not know how it all plays out.  How many views on when the Rapture happens, many, who is correct, only one view can be correct, so all other views are incorrect. Volumes of books have been written, yet no one knows.

Yet, blessed is the one who reads this prophecy, ongoing, for those new to reading this.  On and on.  Blessings are still out there for those who have not read this prophecy yet.  Now it is the unfolding of the Seal, Trumpet and Bowl Judgments that man has to look forward to. Plus other things.

2 Cor 2:21 - Now it is God who makes both us and you stand firm in Christ. He anointed us, set his seal of ownership on us, and put his Spirit in our hearts as a deposit, guaranteeing what is to come. 

When does the fullness of the Gentiles take place? Only God the Father knows, not Jesus Christ nor the angels. Why, because it is God the Father who draws man to His Son, Jesus Christ.  The Father does does all the pre-salvation work. He knows when the Bride is complete, for He bestows the Holy Spirit on us as a seal.  Son, go fetch your Bride, she is now ready.  The Rapture, only the Father knows. Not in Scripture, for Jesus Christ is Scripture/the Word made flesh.

In Christ

Montana Marv

[kwikphilly]

19 minutes ago, Montana Marv said:

That may be so because there is no time with the Godhead.  The outcome is already determined. Yet the circumstances of Prophecies are still to be unfolded as we see them.

Rev 1:3 - Blessed is the one who reads the words of this prophecy, and blessed are those who hear it and take it to heart what is written in it, because the time is near. (almost 1930 plus years to us)

Even though everything is in Christ Jesus, and all things have been determined by Him; We do not know how it all plays out.  How many views on when the Rapture happens, many, who is correct, only one view can be correct, so all other views are incorrect. Volumes of books have been written, yet no one knows.

Yet, blessed is the one who reads this prophecy, ongoing, for those new to reading this.  On and on.  Blessings are still out there for those who have not read this prophecy yet.  Now it is the unfolding of the Seal, Trumpet and Bowl Judgments that man has to look forward to. Plus other things.

2 Cor 2:21 - Now it is God who makes both us and you stand firm in Christ. He anointed us, set his seal of ownership on us, and put his Spirit in our hearts as a deposit, guaranteeing what is to come. 

When does the fullness of the Gentiles take place? Only God the Father knows, not Jesus Christ nor the angels. Why, because it is God the Father who draws man to His Son, Jesus Christ.  The Father does does all the pre-salvation work. He knows when the Bride is complete, for He bestows the Holy Spirit on us as a seal.  Son, go fetch your Bride, she is now ready.  The Rapture, only the Father knows. Not in Scripture, for Jesus Christ is Scripture/the Word made flesh.

In Christ

Montana Marv

I would agree-Amen!

So true as we are bound by the laws of nature,,space & time

How exciting that will be to suddenly,in the twinkling of an eye - to step into Eternity in a New Glorified Body--Glory Halleluyah!

Nicely said Marv

In His Love,Kwik

 

[Your closest friendnt]

2 hours ago, kwikphilly said:

I would agree-Amen!

So true as we are bound by the laws of nature,,space & time

How exciting that will be to suddenly,in the twinkling of an eye - to step into Eternity in a New Glorified Body--Glory Halleluyah!

Nicely said Marv

In His Love,Kwik

 

Is not clear why you followed this post and said that "I Agree". 

Is this the same with what  Peter said in 2nd Peter 1: 13-14?

2 Peter 1:13-14 

13 I think it is right to refresh your memory as long as I live in the tent of this body, 14 because I know that I will soon put it aside, as our Lord Jesus Christ has made clear to me. 

 

Edited May 29 by Your closest friendnt

[kwikphilly]

16 minutes ago, Your closest friendnt said:

Is not clear why you followed his post and said that "I Agree". 

Is this what  Peter said in 2nd Peter 1: 13-14 

2 Peter 1:13-14 

13 I think it is right to refresh your memory as long as I live in the tent of this body, 14 because I know that I will soon put it aside, as our Lord Jesus Christ has made clear to me. 

 

Well it should be quite obvious why I followed his post and replied " I agree"...... because I do agree

I'm not going to repeat his entire post or quote it,you just read it.....Are the Prophecies all Fullfilled in Christ? I say they are indeed- ard there Prophecies yet to unfold on this earth?I say they are undeed-Does our Father in Heaven Know Exactly what Will be- of course He Does! Do I ,you..... mmmm,not really

So I'm not going to debate over what I agree with or throw Peter's Statement into the mix after I just shouted out the Highest Praise for exactly that same thing - I don't know what youre looking to disagree over yet post a Confirmation of what I am Praising Jesus about ....

Do y'all just like to disagree?somedays I get that feeling- it makes my Spirit groan

Be Blessed,be a Blessing- find common ground and work from there. If anyone says 25 absolutely wonderful edifying things to say but there is one sentence that they may have not chosen a perfect word too many folks here will be all over them like white on rice- I like what Marv is saying and I don't even hold fast to a pre- Determination but I do Know God Has ForeKnowledge- so what,Fact of the matter is still " What is Written Shall Stand"...and Amen & Amen

Still love ya,in Christ Jesus..And yes,I'm pretty fiesty when people cannot accept 2people agreeing that God's Word is Solid Ground,Jesus,the Word Made Flesh..... perhaps you believe you know the day of a " Rapture"?I don't know what to think of your comment but I'm not going to think about it after this reply

Be Blessed and be a Blessing- in Peace & Unity     Kwik

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Luther]

15 hours ago, truth7t7 said:

Ezekiel Chapters 40-46 Represents the 2nd Zerubabbel Temple Built In 536BC And Destroyed By Roman Armies In 70AD

As clearly shown, Ezekiel Chapter 43 showed the temple "Pattern" to the House of Israel in the Babylonian Captivity let "Them" measure, Ezekiel was instructed to write the ordinances and law in "Their" sight, that "They" keep them, not some future generation as many "Falsely" claim

The temple seen in Ezekiel Chapters 40-46 is nothing more than the 2nd Zerubbabel Temple built 536BC after the Babylonian Captivity, where animal sacrifice for "Sin" was instructed by "God", prior to the shed blood of Jesus Christ on Calvary, don't be deceived

Ezekiel 43:10-11 & 19-21KJV

10 Thou son of man, shew the house to the house of Israel, that they may be ashamed of their iniquities: and let them measure the pattern.

11 And if they be ashamed of all that they have done, shew them the form of the house, and the fashion thereof, and the goings out thereof, and the comings in thereof, and all the forms thereof, and all the ordinances thereof, and all the forms thereof, and all the laws thereof: and write it in their sight, that they may keep the whole form thereof, and all the ordinances thereof, and do them.

 

19 And thou shalt give to the priests the Levites that be of the seed of Zadok, which approach unto me, to minister unto me, saith the Lord God, a young bullock for a sin offering.

20 And thou shalt take of the blood thereof, and put it on the four horns of it, and on the four corners of the settle, and upon the border round about: thus shalt thou cleanse and purge it.

21 Thou shalt take the bullock also of the sin offering, and he shall burn it in the appointed place of the house, without the sanctuary.

With the correct hermeneutic everything fits together very consistently.

The book of Ezekiel is not very straightforward in its language. Take those "wheels" in chapter 1 for example.

I really have to devote more time in this book. Always seem to be in Isaiah. If I can have a " favorite" book in the Bible, it would be Isaiah for sure. 

There is a book that I have some concerns about. Not that it shouldn't be in the Bible (because I believe that what God wants in His Holy Book is what's there, in the KJV in particular) but it doesn't seem to bring forth God's glory or preeminence in any way. The fact that His name or any reference to Him is not found is peculiar, to say the least. Can you name the book?

[Luther]

15 hours ago, kwikphilly said:

Exactly- Amen

A Christian can not disagree on this AND that God is Faithful- oh but for the Grace of God.... Praise Jesus

In His Love,Kwik

I think some people might get the wrong impression of how I feel about the Old Testament. I love the Old Testament. Absolutely love it (of course I have more love for the New Covenant). 

I love all the promises that God made to Abraham, Isaac and Jacob and to their seed forever. They were great men of God most definitely. We are one family of God. In heaven, I know we're going to be focused on the Lord. I don't know if we're going to recognize Abraham or even anyone in our family for that matter. God says the former things are no longer remembered. Kind of mysterious. But I do know that if there's no more sorrow, there won't be any connection with the previous world because if we knew who was not In heaven we would have sadness. Make sense?

[Luther]

13 hours ago, Your closest friendnt said:

Abraham, Moses and the other people you have in mind they were not disciples of Jesus Christ. 

No one of them had his sins forgiven in Jesus Christ death on the Cross. 

I don't agree. How else were their sins forgiven? There's only One Name you know.

[WilliamL]

5 hours ago, Montana Marv said:

When does the fullness of the Gentiles take place?

...but we are given a prophetic description of the general time.

Which, of course, I wrote a blog about.

Joseph, Part 4: “The Fullness of the Nations”

Genesis 48:19 …but truly his [Manasseh’s] younger brother [Ephraim] shall be greater than he, and his seed shall become the fullness of the nations.

Romans 11:25 …blindness in part has happened to Israel UNTIL the fullness/plērōma of the nations shall have come in. 26 And AFTER that all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob: 27 For this is my covenant with them, when I shall take away their sins.

Ephesians 1:7 In Him [Jesus] we have redemption through His blood… 10 UNTO a dispensation of the fullness/plērōma of the times, to head up all things in Christ, both which are in heaven, and which are on earth, [even] in him.

Luke 21:24 And they [the Jews] shall fall by the edge of the sword, and shall be led away captive into all nations. And Jerusalem shall be being trodden down by the nations UNTIL the times of the nations be fulfilled/plērōthōsin.

The patriarchal prophecy by Jacob, when he made the sign of the cross with his hands upon the heads of Joseph’s sons Ephraim and Manasseh (Gen. 48:13ff.) – the first instance in the Bible of a laying on of hands – has a much greater significance for our times than most Christians and Jews realize. In part, because Jacob made Joseph “the Nazir/Consecrated One of his brothers” (Gen. 49:26), which consecration passed on through his sons. Christianity, the religion of the cross, was established in Britain by the mid-30’s A.D.

Paul prophesied in Romans 11:25 that when Jacob’s prophecy of “the fullness of the nations” reaches its fulfillment, then, essentially, the End of the Christian Age will come. For God will not begin to restore fallen Israelites to salvation until “AFTER” that time. That time being when the Gospel has been preached to “all the nations” of the earth (Matt. 28:19), primarily through the efforts of Anglo-American evangelists.

Matthew 24:24 And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the inhabited earth for a witness to all the nations; and THEN the end will come.

This worldwide evangelism only became possible through the international law-keeping established by the Pax Britannica and the Pax Americana. AFTER this prophesied era of the evangelization of the nations has been fulfilled, Jesus shall return in the clouds of heaven: then “every eye will see Him,” “all the tribes of the earth will wail,” and the Jews will “mourn for Him,” understanding that He is their Messiah “whom they pierced.” Rev. 1:7; Matt. 24:30; Zech. 12:10

So we should look around the world, and judge whether or not this part of Joseph’s destiny has been fulfilled, or is near to it. Is not the Anglo-American hegemony and its Christianity increasingly being resisted and replaced by an international hegemony of an anti-American and anti-Christian New World Order? If so, “the times of the nations” is near to its fulness.