Did God create Adam & Eve being that there were already people on Earth?

[In1]

8 hours ago, Revelation Man said:

13.7 Billion years not 13.7 million years.

We know when the first light came, we have mapped out the whole universe in Radar, its not something that is guess work, just like Radar was used to see planes in  WW2 and is still being used. The 

Wilkinson Microwave Anisotropy Probe took a picture of the universe by radar, here is what it shows, this 100% confirms the Gen. 1 narration by God unto Moses.

The Quantum Fluctuations were outside our universe before our universe came into being....Maybe proves a Force like God had t create our universe from outside our universe and is therefore not subject unto time Himself.

Inflation caused by the Big Bang or God speaking creation.

An Afterglow pattern hung around 375k years.

 

THEN.......BOOM

There was 400 Million Years of DARKNESS

 

Gen. 1:1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.

2 And the earth was without form, and void(not there yet); and darkness was upon the face of the deep(for 400 million years). And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.

3 And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.

4 And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness.

In the beginning means God SPOKE CREATION, and since this story is about Man' creation in juxtaposition to God, we ae told God created the Heaven and the Earth (like an Overview)

Then were are told from God's perspective (no one but God was there right? and the Holy Spirit & Yeshua) that the earth was without FORM & VOID meaning earth was not in existence yet even though God had spoken it into existence, God lives outside of time, we don't. Then God tells us there was DARKNESS ON THE FACE OF THE DEEP.

Well, well just look at the Microwave Probe results, it shows 400 million years of Darkness before the first starts were formed. They called it the Dark Ages !! Now look at how light was crated, there was an ACTION tat had to happen before Light could illuminate the earth, you see Sunbeams are straight light forms that need reflecting in order to illuminate fully. As soon as we leave our Atmosphere, notice it gets much, much darker !! But why? Because God MOVED on the Face of the Waters, He created a Bio-Dome fir us that entraps Moisture, thus the Sun can illuminate our planet and we can have crops etc. Then on Day 4 we got orderly weather patterns, the Moon crashed into the Earth giving us a Satellite to pull off of and thus ORDERLY WETHER PATTERNS. 

The earth is 4 billion plus years older then the universe?

[FreeGrace]

15 hours ago, enoob57 said:

That's Ken Ham's favorite 'there's a Book'

Now, if only he could dissociate an old earth from evolution.  

[Revelation Man]

3 hours ago, In1 said:

The earth is 4 billion plus years older then the universe?

You trying to be funny? I don't get it, why go through all this when its OBVIOUS I was saying the Universe is 13.7 Billion years old and the earth is 4.5 Billion years old. That post was a waste of time brother. I did not read bac through, but when I stated I meant 13.7 Billion not million years all you had to do was look at the first post that stated the Universe was 13.7 million years old to know my FIXED REPOST was speaking about the Universe being 13.7 billion not MILLION years old.

 

It is what it is brother, have a nice day, maybe you were just confused. Its all good

[In1]

On 5/11/2025 at 12:47 PM, In1 said:

"God created the universe 13.7 million years ago and the earth 4.5 billion years ago at the same time, 13.7 billion years ago in our time"

This kinda confused me ... I was just curious ... 

[WilliamL]

20 hours ago, Revelation Man said:

We know when the first light came, we have mapped out the whole universe in Radar, its not something that is guess work, just like Radar was used to see planes in  WW2 and is still being used. The 

Wilkinson Microwave Anisotropy Probe took a picture of the universe by radar, here is what it shows, this 100% confirms the Gen. 1 narration by God unto Moses.

Uh, want to explain how radar, which propagates through space at the speed of light, could so shortly map out a universe that is umpteen millions of light-years across (at least) ??

[teddyv]

15 hours ago, WilliamL said:

Uh, want to explain how radar, which propagates through space at the speed of light, could so shortly map out a universe that is umpteen millions of light-years across (at least) ??

Pretty clear this is some misunderstanding. Regardless, much of the EM universe has been mapped to the extent that our receivers are currently capable.

[Revelation Man]

On 5/13/2025 at 9:38 AM, In1 said:

This kinda confused me ... I was just curious ... 

Yes it was a typo, but we all know the universe was created 13.7 billion years ago OR that Science claims it was created 13.7 billion years, so if one agrees or disagrees, it was an obvious typo because the universe has to be older than the earth. 

[Revelation Man]

20 hours ago, WilliamL said:

Uh, want to explain how radar, which propagates through space at the speed of light, could so shortly map out a universe that is umpteen millions of light-years across (at least) ??

Upon further reading it was an advanced tool, using Microwave Radiometers to measure temps from one point to another to measure the Cosmic Microwave Background (CMB).

Here's why and how WMAP measured CMB anisotropy:

CMB Anisotropy: The CMB is the afterglow of the Big Bang, and it's not perfectly uniform in temperature across the sky. These tiny temperature variations, called anisotropies, are crucial for understanding the early universe.

WMAP's Approach: WMAP was designed to measure these temperature differences very precisely. It used differential radiometers, which measure the temperature difference between two points in the sky rather than absolute temperatures.

Microwave Radiometers: WMAP's instruments were microwave radiometers that detected and measured the intensity of microwave radiation, including the CMB.

Differential Measurements: By measuring temperature differences, WMAP was able to minimize systematic errors and achieve high accuracy in mapping the CMB anisotropies.

No Radar: Radar, which involves transmitting radio waves and detecting their reflections, was not used in the WMAP mission. WMAP passively received microwave radiation from the universe. 

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I thought is was Radar, seems its probably just an advanced form, but it paints a picture of the universe by using temps from two different points. 

Nevertheless, no mater what it is called or what technique they used, we know these "Scientists" are not ever attempting to prove God created anything right? So, when they put forth stats that agree with Gen. 1, that is lovely stuff to me. God said there was total darkness on the face of the deep in Gen 1, Scientists say there was 400 million years of Darkness before the first nebulas started forming the first stars (our sun came 4.5 billion years ago) started forming just over 13 billion years ago. 

N doubt when I read this years ago I just assumed Microwave Radio was them saying Radar the way scientists always over emphasize things with fancy terms. Nevertheless, the point remains the same. 

 

 

[In1]

1 hour ago, Revelation Man said:

Yes it was a typo, but we all know the universe was created 13.7 billion years ago OR that Science claims it was created 13.7 billion years, so if one agrees or disagrees, it was an obvious typo because the universe has to be older than the earth. 

Just being sure ... there are those who believe the earth is flat :)

[teddyv]

45 minutes ago, Revelation Man said:

N doubt when I read this years ago I just assumed Microwave Radio was them saying Radar the way scientists always over emphasize things with fancy terms. Nevertheless, the point remains the same.

Yeah, don't disagree; scientists typically use very specific and precise language in order to be very clear about their subjects, especially within their academic circles. I could bury you in very geological specific terms, much as a physicist could bury me.