Thinking of Scriptural History

[Alive]

The most profitable exercise in reading the Bible is to see Christ our Savior there from Genesis to Revelation.

Acts 4:12 (NAS20S) “And there is salvation in no one else; for there is no other name under heaven that has been given among mankind by which we must be saved.”

This statement above in Acts is emphatic. This means that the work of Jesus on the Cross, His resurrection and His Ascension transcends the calendar. This means that the Father imputed Christ's Righteousness to Noah and his family even though they with the rest of sinful mankind back then were exceedingly sinful--His Grace provided Salvation in this remarkable illustration. The entire world was judged and destroyed and yet a few were saved---just as it will be one more time.

Reader---seek Him and find Salvation.

Matt. 7:7 (NAS20S)   “  Ask, and it will be given to you; seek, and you will find; knock, and it will be opened to you. 8 “For everyone who asks receives, and the one who seeks finds, and to the one who knocks it will be opened.

[PATrobas]

Rom 10:3  For they being ignorant of God's righteousness, and going about to establish their own righteousness, have not submitted themselves unto the righteousness of God. :4  For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth.

Rom 4:5  But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness. \

Rom 5:1  Therefore being justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ:

Jer 23:6  In his days Judah shall be saved, and Israel shall dwell safely: and this is his name whereby he shall be called, THE LORD OUR RIGHTEOUSNESS.

[Alive]

1Cor. 10:2 (NAS20S) and they all were baptized into Moses in the cloud and in the sea; 3 and they all ate the same spiritual food, 4 and all drank the same spiritual drink, for they were drinking from a spiritual rock which followed them; and the rock was Christ.

[other one]

39 minutes ago, PATrobas said:

 Rom 5:1  Therefore being justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ:

 

Keep in mind that there are people who have even done miracles in his name that Jesus said he never knew them.  We should be careful what justified by faith means.

[PATrobas]

11 hours ago, J.T. said:

I don't recall reading it specifically in the Holy Scriptures but by Holy Spirit inspired discernment I am ABSOLUTELY convinced, and believe, that all babies and children were saved. There is an age of accountability and many, myself included, think it might be around the age of 13-14 where children are not held accountable for sin (hence, age of accountability). I would even go so far as to say I believe that the Great I AM, in His great love and mercy, brought all these children and babies to heaven before the floods came. In that same great love and mercy I don't believe He would let these children and babies suffer a death in the flood.

It is the sin of Adam that condemned humanity.  Rom 5:18  Therefore as by the offense of one judgment came upon all men to condemnation;

We were conceived in Adam and before we were born, condemned.  Psalm 51:5  Behold, I was shapen in iniquity; and in sin did my mother conceive me. It is the sin nature that makes us sinners, which we received at conception. Ephesians 2:3 and were by nature the children of wrath, even as others.

A baby is just as condemned as a 100 year old. Committing sins does not make us a sinner, having Adam's nature does. Thus, all are condemned, even those who have not committed sins in the womb, "there is NONE righteous, no NOT ONE." Rom. 3:10

We don't like to hear these things because it doesn't seem fair or just, but it is so according to Scripture and we know that God IS just. But, as we also see from Scripture, God does not save anyone according to what they do, but He saves according to what and on whom they believe. This takes place in the human spirit, not the mind, not the soul, not the body, but in the spirit of man. It is God who saves according to His purpose. He is fully capable of enlightening the spirit of a baby in the womb with the Gospel and saving that baby before it is ever born. Thus we see John the baptist leaping in his mother's womb being full of the Holy Spirit at the announcement of Mary's arrival.  Luke 1:15  For he shall be great in the sight of the Lord, and shall drink neither wine nor strong drink; and he shall be filled with the Holy Ghost, even from his mother's womb. It was God who filled him with the Holy Spirit before he ever did right or wrong.

The idea of a child not being responsible and being saved to go to heaven until they reach the 'age of accountability' makes no sense and is not a scriptural idea. If it were true, then every parent, in wanting and raising children to go to heaven should kill them before the age of accountability to be sure they would be saved. A stupid and gross idea.

We must remember that it is God who saves according to His good pleasure. We who have lived long enough, have believed through the faculties of our minds, our souls, our bodies and eventually in our spirits after hearing the Gospel preached and believing it. It is an act of God worked out through our lifetimes until we believe it or not. God can see a baby in the womb (that perhaps will be aborted) and speak the Gospel to that baby's spirit and save him/her if He so chooses. In my puny little mind, this makes sense and fits my understanding of a righteous and just God, but according to Scripture that baby was condemned already when conceived and deserves hell just as all men do, save for the grace of God.

Jesus is the antidote to Adam's sin. He died making payment for the sin that condemns all mankind. Mankind can be saved by believing that good news, whether in the womb or at 100 years old.

Edited April 17 by PATrobas

[PATrobas]

21 minutes ago, other one said:

Keep in mind that there are people who have even done miracles in his name that Jesus said he never knew them.  We should be careful what justified by faith means.

Rom 8:33  Who shall lay any thing to the charge of God's elect? It is God that justifieth.

If truly saved, then truly justified by His faith. Satan can do miraculous things. That doesn't make him justified.

[timf]

I see the flood as less similar to us having faith than it was God selecting the last faithful man and his family to start over. One might imagine that the environmental difficulties God instituted with the curse were insufficient to prevent humans from having every imagination of the thoughts of their hearts being evil continually. The climatic changes from the flood creating an even more hostile environment may have been sufficient to limit our indulgences. However, since the Industrial revolution, we may have been now able to indulge ourselves to the degree they did before the flood.

One interesting question is the 120 years God spoke of, was it the time until the flood, or the limit that would now be placed on how long a man could live?

[Vine Abider]

6 hours ago, Alive said:

If all have sinned and there are none righteous not one. How is it that God saw Noah as righteous?

I suspect it was like in Abraham's case, whereof it is said, "He believed God and it was accounted to him as righteousness."  Gen 15:6

[Alive]

1 hour ago, Vine Abider said:

I suspect it was like in Abraham's case, whereof it is said, "He believed God and it was accounted to him as righteousness."  Gen 15:6

And there in that time and place was Christ!

[Tristen]

11 hours ago, Alive said:

If all have sinned and there are none righteous not one. How is it that God saw Noah as righteous?

Hebrews 11:7
By faith Noah, being divinely warned of things not yet seen, moved with godly fear, prepared an ark for the saving of his household, by which he condemned the world and became heir of the righteousness which is according to faith.