BUSTED -12 False Theories Refuted

[truth7t7]

30 minutes ago, The Light said:

National Israel will remain on the earth during the wrath of God in a place of protection. They will not yet believe. If they believed at the 6th seal they would be raptured at that time. They will believe when the deliverer comes out of Sion as God will keep His covenant with Israel.

Romans 11

25 For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.

26 And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:

27 For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins.

God's now in the business of treatment to humans based upon National Ethnic Origin, Smiles

At what percentage of blood does God's protection start, 5% Jewish/Hebrew Blood, 10%, 20%, 50%, 75%?

Can you be under God's protection if your a Israeli Citizen of non-Jewish blood?

[truth7t7]

43 minutes ago, The Light said:

The first fold is known by the Lord and we know Him. There are other sheep not of this fold. They will be a second fold. Both folds become one fold at the gathering from heaven and earth which occurs at the 6th seal.

 

Actually, the verses are saying that when the fullness of the Gentiles comes in, part of Israel will have its blindness removed. That is the seed of the woman, the 12 tribes across the earth. When Jesus comes for the harvest at the 6th seal, those of the 12 tribes across the earth, that believe will be raptured. 

National Israel will remain on the earth during the wrath of God in a place of protection. They will not yet believe. If they believed at the 6th seal they would be raptured at that time. They will believe when the deliverer comes out of Sion as God will keep His covenant with Israel.

Romans 11

25 For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.

26 And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:

27 For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins.

My Holy Bible teaches only the "Remnant Elect Jew", those who God predestined to be chosen, called, and saved will obtain salvation

National Israel is blinded by God's spirit of slumber, and they won't obtain salvation

Romans 11:7-8KJV

7 What then? Israel hath not obtained that which he seeketh for; but the election hath obtained it, and the rest were blinded.

8 (According as it is written, God hath given them the spirit of slumber, eyes that they should not see, and ears that they should not hear;) unto this day.

Edited yesterday at 12:41 AM by truth7t7

[The Light]

50 minutes ago, JoeCanada said:

Let's look at this and compare it with 1Thes  4:13....

But we do not want you to be uninformed, brethren, about those who are asleep, so that you will not grieve as do the rest who have no hope.  For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so God will bring with Him those who have fallen asleep in Jesus.

Those who have fallen asleep in Jesus are in heaven.... their souls are in heaven (paradise).... these are the souls whom God will bring with Jesus when He comes for the resurrection and those who are still alive (rapture)

So the ones He gathers from heaven are not the church.... they are all those who died in Christ, (their souls), who will be given resurrection bodies along  with those who are alive when He returns in Glory... 

I used to think the same thing long ago. I believe that the dead in Christ rise first. The alive remain. When Jesus returns for the alive that remain, He will bring the dead in Christ with Him and the alive will meet the dead in Christ in the air.

1 Thes 4

14 For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him.

15 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep.

16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:

17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.

Here is the rapture of the Church in the Old Testament.

In blue is the dead in Christ rising first and we see Jesus is behind our wall shewing Himself thru the lattice of the windows.......secret rapture. The timeframe is spring as the winter is past and it is the time of the singing birds.

Song of Solomon 2

8 The voice of my beloved! behold, he cometh leaping upon the mountains, skipping upon the hills.

9 My beloved is like a roe or a young hart: behold, he standeth behind our wall, he looketh forth at the windows, shewing himself through the lattice.

10 My beloved spake, and said unto me, Rise up, my love, my fair one, and come away.

11 For, lo, the winter is past, the rain is over and gone;

12 The flowers appear on the earth; the time of the singing of birds is come, and the voice of the turtle is heard in our land;

This is Jesus returning for the alive that remain. The fig tree is putting forth green figs and the tender grapes give a good smell. This is the time of the summer harvest. Again, secret rapture........clefts of the rock, in the secret places of the stairs.

13 The fig tree putteth forth her green figs, and the vines with the tender grape give a good smell. Arise, my love, my fair one, and come away.

14 O my dove, that art in the clefts of the rock, in the secret places of the stairs, let me see thy countenance, let me hear thy voice; for sweet is thy voice, and thy countenance is comely.

The dead in Christ are rapture first in the spring and the alive that remained will be raptured at the end of summer.

50 minutes ago, JoeCanada said:

So, yes.... technically they are part of the "church", but they are not the entire "church".... the entire "church" is shown in Rev 9:17.

Do you see this?

Good point.

50 minutes ago, JoeCanada said:

This is where I see many are tripped up.

The marriage supper does not take place in heaven. I do not find any scriptural reference for it.

Revelation 19

 And after these things I heard a great voice of much people in heaven, saying, Alleluia; Salvation, and glory, and honour, and power, unto the Lord our God:

2 For true and righteous are his judgments: for he hath judged the great whore, which did corrupt the earth with her fornication, and hath avenged the blood of his servants at her hand.

3 And again they said, Alleluia And her smoke rose up for ever and ever.

4 And the four and twenty elders and the four beasts fell down and worshipped God that sat on the throne, saying, Amen; Alleluia.

5 And a voice came out of the throne, saying, Praise our God, all ye his servants, and ye that fear him, both small and great.

6 And I heard as it were the voice of a great multitude, and as the voice of many waters, and as the voice of mighty thunderings, saying, Alleluia: for the Lord God omnipotent reigneth.

7 Let us be glad and rejoice, and give honour to him: for the marriage of the Lamb is come, and his wife hath made herself ready.

8 And to her was granted that she should be arrayed in fine linen, clean and white: for the fine linen is the righteousness of saints.

9 And he saith unto me, Write, Blessed are they which are called unto the marriage supper of the Lamb. And he saith unto me, These are the true sayings of God.

50 minutes ago, JoeCanada said:

But I do find scriptural reference for a marriage supper.... (banquet)... on the earth, on God's Holy Mountain, the New Jerusalem. 

Isaiah.... 25:6.... "The Lord of hosts will prepare a lavish banquet for all peoples on this mountain; A banquet of aged wine, choice pieces with marrow, And refined, aged wine."

I don't think this is the marriage supper of the Lamb. The marriage supper of the lamb takes place during the one-year wrath of God. 

However, I do find this interesting. It needs more study from me.

50 minutes ago, JoeCanada said:

God, Jesus, does not live for a millennia in a cottage, or in a house built by man. He will live in a magnificent Hoy City, the New Jerusalem, which comes down from heaven as shown in Rev 21. 

" And I saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, made ready as a bride adorned for her husband.

Do you see?

"as a bride made ready for her husband"

If the "church" is in heaven prior to the GT.... and "has" married her groom, then how???? can the New Jerusalem, God's Holy Mountain, be said to "come down out of heaven from God....  MADE READY AS A BRIDE ADORNED FOR HER HUSBAND, if she already married her husband several years earlier?????????????????????????????

The marriage supper of the lamb does not take place when the Church is raptured prior to the great tribulation. The marriage supper does not take place until after the 6th seal when both brides are in heaven. Jacob had two brides. There are two raptures. The fig tree has two harvests. Two folds into one fold.....the great multitude. The wrath of God is one year before Armageddon can occur. Christ will spend that year with His bride.

50 minutes ago, JoeCanada said:

If she married her husband several years earlier, would she still be called a "bride"?

I don't think so.

Even in a marriage ceremony, after they are made "Mr and Mrs" so and so, she is no longer called a bride of Mr?... is she. They are introduced as "Mr and Mrs so and so".

The marriage supper does not occur until after the 6th seal when the great multitude is in heaven.

According to scripture the end times is way, way different timewise than is commonly perceived.

50 minutes ago, JoeCanada said:

If the church is in heaven before the trib, as some claim... and are there marrying the groom for ( who knows how many years as it varies with pre-tribbers ) how then can Rev 21 make any sense? 

 

I believe the Church will be in heaven before the Great Tribulation that kicks off in the middle of the week. Then the seed of the woman, Israel, the twelve tribes across the earth will be in heaven at the 6th seal, before the 7th seal is opened which is the wrath of God.

The nation of Israel itself will remain on earth in a place of protection. God's people are not appointed to wrath.

[The Light]

5 hours ago, truth7t7 said:

Immediately after the tribulation "The Signs" of the 6th Seal through the 6th Vial/Trump that will take place, it's that simple

Can't happen as the seventy seal is not open which contains the seven trumpets and seven vials. It's that simple.

5 hours ago, truth7t7 said:

 

Once again Jesus returns once in the future, at the 7th Vial/Trump

Humm...here is Jesus coming for the 144,000 first fruits which are redeemed from the earth. Do you pretend this doesn't happen also? Is this the one and only coming or are there at least two?

Revelation 14

1 And I looked, and, lo, a Lamb stood on the mount Sion, and with him an hundred forty and four thousand, having his Father's name written in their foreheads.

2 And I heard a voice from heaven, as the voice of many waters, and as the voice of a great thunder: and I heard the voice of harpers harping with their harps:

3 And they sung as it were a new song before the throne, and before the four beasts, and the elders: and no man could learn that song but the hundred and forty and four thousand, which were redeemed from the earth.

4 These are they which were not defiled with women; for they are virgins. These are they which follow the Lamb whithersoever he goeth. These were redeemed from among men, being the firstfruits unto God and to the Lamb.

[Luther]

2 hours ago, The Light said:

The first fold is known by the Lord and we know Him. There are other sheep not of this fold. They will be a second fold. Both folds become one fold at the gathering from heaven and earth which occurs at the 6th seal.

 

Actually, the verses are saying that when the fullness of the Gentiles comes in, part of Israel will have its blindness removed. That is the seed of the woman, the 12 tribes across the earth. When Jesus comes for the harvest at the 6th seal, those of the 12 tribes across the earth, that believe will be raptured. 

National Israel will remain on the earth during the wrath of God in a place of protection. They will not yet believe. If they believed at the 6th seal they would be raptured at that time. They will believe when the deliverer comes out of Sion as God will keep His covenant with Israel.

Romans 11

25 For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.

26 And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:

27 For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins.

You said: " National Israel will remain on the earth during the wrath of God in a place of protection. They will not yet believe. If they believed at the 6th seal they would be raptured at that time. They will believe when the deliverer comes out of Sion as God will keep His covenant with Israel."

If you examine the phrase " wrath of God" ( or similar variations), you will see that it is an inescapable situation, because it's the end of the world. No one shall be able to stand.

Isaiah 13:6-11 KJV
Howl ye; for the day of the LORD is at hand; it shall come as a destruction from the Almighty.

[7] Therefore shall all hands be faint, and every man's heart shall melt: 

[8] And they shall be afraid: pangs and sorrows shall take hold of them; they shall be in pain as a woman that travaileth: they shall be amazed one at another; their faces shall be as flames. 

[9] Behold, the day of the LORD cometh, cruel both with wrath and fierce anger, to lay the land desolate: and he shall destroy the sinners thereof out of it.

[10] For the stars of heaven and the constellations thereof shall not give their light: the sun shall be darkened in his going forth, and the moon shall not cause her light to shine. 

[11] And I will punish the world for their evil, and the wicked for their iniquity; and I will cause the arrogancy of the proud to cease, and will lay low the haughtiness of the terrible.

Revelation 6:12: moon became as blood

Isaiah 13:10: moon shall not cause her light to shine

Joel3:15: moon shall be darkened.....

Joel 3:14-16 KJV
Multitudes, multitudes in the valley of decision: for the day of the LORD is near in the valley of decision.

[15] The sun and the moon shall be darkened, and the stars shall withdraw their shining.

[16] The LORD also shall roar out of Zion, and utter his voice from Jerusalem; and the heavens and the earth shall shake: but the LORD will be the hope of his people, and the strength of the children of Israel.

The hope of His people.....every Christian who is waiting for this glorious day!

 

[JoeCanada]

50 minutes ago, The Light said:

I used to think the same thing long ago. I believe that the dead in Christ rise first. The alive remain. When Jesus returns for the alive that remain, He will bring the dead in Christ with Him and the alive will meet the dead in Christ in the air.

So, how long a time period is there between the dead in Christ rising first..... and then the alive in Christ remaining, stranded in the air, until Jesus meets them in the air...???

"But we do not want you to be uninformed, brethren, about those who are asleep, so that you will not grieve as do the rest who have no hope. For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so God will bring with Him those who have fallen asleep in Jesus.  For this we say to you by the word of the Lord, that we who are alive and remain until the coming of the Lord, will not precede those who have fallen asleep. For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first.  Then we who are alive and remain will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air, and so we shall always be with the Lord.  Therefore comfort one another with these words..... 1 Thes 4:13-18

 

Paul is very clear here. He says "God will bring with Him those who have fallen asleep in Jesus. That's all.... those who have fallen asleep in Jesus. No mention of a bride prepared for the groom..... just those who have fallen asleep in Jesus.

For the Lord Himself..... not anyone else.... will descend from heaven.... with a shout..... with the voice of the archangel..... and with the trumpet of God...... 

and the dead in Christ will rise FIRST......

Who are the dead in Christ???? 

You know it. 

Believers from all time who have their faith in the Rock.... the Rock that led them thru the wilderness.... the Rock of ages.... 

“For who is God, besides the Lord? And who is a rock, besides our God?....2Sam 22:32

"The Lord is my rock and my fortress and my deliverer, My God, my rock, in whom I take refuge; My shield and the horn of my salvation, my stronghold." .... Ps 18:2

Let the words of my mouth and the meditation of my heart Be acceptable in Your sight, O Lord, my rock and my Redeemer...... Ps 19:14

There are numerous scriptures pointing to Christ as the Redeemer, even though He did not appear on the scene yet, as the Messiah.

Paul tells us that we will be caught up TOGETHER with them, the dead in Christ, and together we will meet the Lord in the air. Not years later. 

What.... the dead in Christ that rise first will just hang out in the clouds waiting till the alive show up????? 

Bahahahahaha..... good one!

 

1 hour ago, The Light said:

Here is the rapture of the Church in the Old Testament.

In blue is the dead in Christ rising first and we see Jesus is behind our wall shewing Himself thru the lattice of the windows.......secret rapture. The timeframe is spring as the winter is past and it is the time of the singing birds.

Song of Solomon 2

8 The voice of my beloved! behold, he cometh leaping upon the mountains, skipping upon the hills.

9 My beloved is like a roe or a young hart: behold, he standeth behind our wall, he looketh forth at the windows, shewing himself through the lattice.

10 My beloved spake, and said unto me, Rise up, my love, my fair one, and come away.

11 For, lo, the winter is past, the rain is over and gone;

12 The flowers appear on the earth; the time of the singing of birds is come, and the voice of the turtle is heard in our land;

This is Jesus returning for the alive that remain. The fig tree is putting forth green figs and the tender grapes give a good smell. This is the time of the summer harvest. Again, secret rapture........clefts of the rock, in the secret places of the stairs.

13 The fig tree putteth forth her green figs, and the vines with the tender grape give a good smell. Arise, my love, my fair one, and come away.

14 O my dove, that art in the clefts of the rock, in the secret places of the stairs, let me see thy countenance, let me hear thy voice; for sweet is thy voice, and thy countenance is comely.

The dead in Christ are rapture first in the spring and the alive that remained will be raptured at the end of summer.

The Song of Solomon 2, in its simplicity, symbolizes the love between a man and a woman. 

Even a stretch a person could say it speaks of the love between God and His beloved people. 

Nothing about any rapture here... especially a "secret" rapture.

1 hour ago, The Light said:

The dead in Christ are rapture first in the spring and the alive that remained will be raptured at the end of summer.

How long will they have to wait in the clouds for the "alive" to show up?

You are assuming a great time period between the two events.

So here is the scripture....

"For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first.  

Then.... 

We who are alive and remain will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air, and so we shall always be with the Lord."

Are you suggesting a long period of time from "the dead in Christ will rise first.....

to

"then we who are alive will be caught up ...... 

Wait.... 

When?....

TOGETHER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!. 

with them in the clouds....

I do not see a time delay.

They, the dead in Christ rising first ... and the alive who remain... will be caught up TOGETHER...... with them (the dead in Christ)

I do not see a 6 month delay..... spring to end of summer. 

[Retrobyter]

On 4/30/2025 at 9:08 PM, Keras said:

It is, and neither you nor I are likely to change. 

The main difference is; when does each Prophecy take place? Plainly stated Prophecy, which can be literally fulfilled; will be, therefore it is getting the correct sequence of events, where people differ. 

For example, I place the Lords Day of vengeance and wrath at the Sixth Seal, which is the next Prophesied event we can expect.  Placing that terrible event elsewhere, necessitates a shuffling, or private interpretation of scripture, something I see others do with reckless abandon. 

Shalom, @Keras.

I agree with all of these points but three, points 3, 8 and 10 are questionable: One MUST remember "MISHPACHAH" or "FAMILY!" That's what genealogies are "all about!" They describe who are related to whom and how they are related. And, this is a very important consideration among the children of Israel. Even "black sheep" of the family are still family members, even if they are "בְנֵי־בְלִיַּעַל" or "sons of Belial," or "worthless children." Let the Messiah sort out all of that, and He shall.

Technically, one also must not forget that the FIFTH Seal comes before the Sixth Seal. People do not read this correctly because they have a new definition for "soul" that is not found within the Bible. The word "soul" was used to translate the Hebrew word "נֶפֶשׁ" or "nefesh" (frequently written "nephesh," recognizing the relationship that the Hebrew letter "pei" [פּ] has to a "fei" or "phei" [פ]; this is why we have words like "phone" that begin with the "f" sound). The word "nefesh" is defined like this in Strong's Dictionary of the Hebrew and Chaldee Languages:

H5315 נֶפֶשׁ nephesh, neh'-fesh; from H5314; properly, a breathing creature, i.e. animal of (abstractly) vitality; used very widely in a literal, accommodated or figurative sense (bodily or mental):
—any, appetite, beast, body, breath, creature, × dead(-ly), desire, × (dis-) contented, × fish, ghost, greedy, he, heart(-y), (hath, × jeopardy of) life (× in jeopardy), lust, man, me, mind, mortally, one, own, person, pleasure, (her-, him-, my-, thy-) self, them (your) -selves, slay, soul, tablet, they, thing, (× she) will, × would have it.

stemming from the verbal root word,

H5314 נָפַשׁ nâphash, naw-fash'; a primitive root; to breathe; passively, to be breathed upon, i.e. (figuratively) refreshed (as if by a current of air):
—(be) refresh selves (-ed).

(I usually just transliterate this word "naafash," where "aa" represents the qamets, instead of the harder-to-type "â." Both symbols are pronounced "aw" as in "saw." I trade greater length for ease-in-typing.)

"Nefesh" was translated into Greek as "ψυχή" or "psuchee" ("psychḗ"), as any NT quote from the OT can show.

So, a "soul" is a "breathing" individual. Thus, the "soul" doesn't exist when a person dies, because that person "CEASES to breathe!" It won't be until the resurrection occurs that one begins to "breathe" again! THEREFORE, we have the FIFTH Seal:

Revelation 6:9-11 (KJV)

9 And when he had opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar THE SOULS of them that were slain for the word of God, and for the testimony which they held: 10 And they cried with a loud voice, saying,

"How long, O Lord, holy and true, dost thou not judge and avenge our blood on them that dwell on the earth?"

11 And white robes were given unto every one of them; and it was said unto them, that they should rest yet for a little season, until their fellowservants also and their brethren, that should be killed as they [were], should be fulfilled.

So, I would argue that this FIFTH Seal, which speaks of the Resurrection, which also hasn't happened, yet, comes before the signs of the Sixth Seal in Revelation 6:12-17.

[The Light]

1 hour ago, JoeCanada said:

So, how long a time period is there between the dead in Christ rising first..... and then the alive in Christ remaining, stranded in the air, until Jesus meets them in the air...???

Offhand, I would suspect 50 days or so. These events will occur on feast days.

1 hour ago, JoeCanada said:

 

Paul is very clear here. He says "God will bring with Him those who have fallen asleep in Jesus. That's all.... those who have fallen asleep in Jesus. No mention of a bride prepared for the groom..... just those who have fallen asleep in Jesus.

For the Lord Himself..... not anyone else.... will descend from heaven.... with a shout..... with the voice of the archangel..... and with the trumpet of God...... 

and the dead in Christ will rise FIRST......

Who are the dead in Christ???? 

You know it. 

Believers from all time who have their faith in the Rock.... the Rock that led them thru the wilderness.... the Rock of ages.... 

“For who is God, besides the Lord? And who is a rock, besides our God?....2Sam 22:32

"The Lord is my rock and my fortress and my deliverer, My God, my rock, in whom I take refuge; My shield and the horn of my salvation, my stronghold." .... Ps 18:2

Let the words of my mouth and the meditation of my heart Be acceptable in Your sight, O Lord, my rock and my Redeemer...... Ps 19:14

There are numerous scriptures pointing to Christ as the Redeemer, even though He did not appear on the scene yet, as the Messiah.

Yeah. But that does NOT play into the rapture of the Church.

1 hour ago, JoeCanada said:

Paul tells us that we will be caught up TOGETHER with them, the dead in Christ, and together we will meet the Lord in the air. Not years later. 

What.... the dead in Christ that rise first will just hang out in the clouds waiting till the alive show up????? 

Bahahahahaha..... good one!

No. The dead in Christ go to heaven. Then the Lord will bring them with Him when He returns for the alive that remained.

1 hour ago, JoeCanada said:

 

The Song of Solomon 2, in its simplicity, symbolizes the love between a man and a woman. 

If that's what you prefer to believe, that's fine. I prefer to understand what those verses are about. The Lord comes and says arise my love and come away. That might not mean anything more than a symbolic love story between a man and a woman to you, but it is much, much more than that.

1 hour ago, JoeCanada said:

Even a stretch a person could say it speaks of the love between God and His beloved people. 

Nothing about any rapture here... especially a "secret" rapture.

I guess you could be right if we left out the verses about the Lord saying arise my love and standing behind the wall looking through the lattice of the windows. Might be a peeping Tom story.

1 hour ago, JoeCanada said:

How long will they have to wait in the clouds for the "alive" to show up?

The dead in Christ go to heaven. 

1 hour ago, JoeCanada said:

You are assuming a great time period between the two events.

So here is the scripture....

"For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first.  

Then.... 

We who are alive and remain will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air, and so we shall always be with the Lord."

Are you suggesting a long period of time from "the dead in Christ will rise first.....

to

"then we who are alive will be caught up ...... 

Wait.... 

When?....

TOGETHER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!. 

with them in the clouds....

I do not see a time delay.

No. Most don't see a time delay. And yet in Song of Solomon 2 we see the Lord comes for His love and says arise in the spring. Then we see the same arise message occurs at the end of summer. And of course this lines up perfectly with the grain harvest feasts. 

1 hour ago, JoeCanada said:

They, the dead in Christ rising first ... and the alive who remain... will be caught up TOGETHER...... with them (the dead in Christ)

I do not see a 6 month delay..... spring to end of summer. 

I suspect 50 days or so.

[The Light]

4 hours ago, truth7t7 said:

My Holy Bible teaches only the "Remnant Elect Jew", those who God predestined to be chosen, called, and saved will obtain salvation

National Israel is blinded by God's spirit of slumber, and they won't obtain salvation

Romans 11:7-8KJV

7 What then? Israel hath not obtained that which he seeketh for; but the election hath obtained it, and the rest were blinded.

8 (According as it is written, God hath given them the spirit of slumber, eyes that they should not see, and ears that they should not hear;) unto this day.

Right the election obtained it and the rest were blinded. But don't be ignorant of this.

Romans 11

25 For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.

[The Light]

4 hours ago, truth7t7 said:

God's now in the business of treatment to humans based upon National Ethnic Origin, Smiles

At what percentage of blood does God's protection start, 5% Jewish/Hebrew Blood, 10%, 20%, 50%, 75%?

Can you be under God's protection if your a Israeli Citizen of non-Jewish blood?

Are you telling you don't know what determines a Jew or a Gentile?