Jesus

[GeneV]

You know Matt, I've found it rather interesting how you've avoided my question. Is that because you don't have an answer for me? A bit baffling, isn't it to say the least. However, don't worry. Every atheist I've asked that question hasn't been able to return an answer of substance to me. And that's basically because once you do some strong background research on the historical facts surrounding JESUS CHRIST, you'll find the evidence weighs VERY STRONGLY in HIS favor...that is, in being WHO HE claimed to be.

I figured you wouldn't be able to respond, so by not doing so my friend, you already given me your answer - you don't know. Thanks anyway Matt!

Actually I got lost in another thread and was busy through-out the day in my life......

I do know, but your patronizing makes me not care...

Thanks anyway for accusing. Boost the ego a bit doesn't it? Good for you....good for you.....

matt

Hi Matt,

Although you probably don't wish for it, I will be praying for you anyway

[WISDOM]

You know Matt, I've found it rather interesting how you've avoided my question. Is that because you don't have an answer for me? A bit baffling, isn't it to say the least. However, don't worry. Every atheist I've asked that question hasn't been able to return an answer of substance to me. And that's basically because once you do some strong background research on the historical facts surrounding JESUS CHRIST, you'll find the evidence weighs VERY STRONGLY in HIS favor...that is, in being WHO HE claimed to be.

I figured you wouldn't be able to respond, so by not doing so my friend, you already given me your answer - you don't know. Thanks anyway Matt!

Actually I got lost in another thread and was busy through-out the day in my life......

I do know, but your patronizing makes me not care...

Thanks anyway for accusing. Boost the ego a bit doesn't it? Good for you....good for you.....

matt

Matt listen.....it's NOT about me or you. The truth is about fact finding. It's not about my or your ego, instead it's about caring for someone's eternal soul. I'm NOT some eternal guardian of GOD's Word. Simply put Matt, I am a layman who has a responsibility passed on to me to share the truths of the Gospel with those willing to hear the "call" of the HOLY SPIRIT reaching out to their heart.

No, it's not about ego, because if you really knew me you wouldn't think/say that. I believe in stimulating the mind for sincere constructive discussion. The learning scale should have balance to it. Learn BOTH sides of an issue, and then check it out. I'm not here to throw knives at you personally, anymore than I would with others here, and I've been here a lot longer than you (a former Board MOD). So I have a pretty good idea how these forums operate.

I know this much my friend....you're here because you are seeking something (and that's a good thing). You have been in my prayers since we started to dialogue the other day. GOD has something good planned for you Matt, and HE's reaching out to you now. Whether or not you and I continue to converse doesn't change the fact that you are and will continue to be on my prayer list. And the fact is I plan on seeing YOU when I get to Heaven, my friend. Reading some of your posts on other threads I see you have a very good mind. Use it wisely!

[Leonard]

Hmmm. Where are you convinced 'science contradicts the Bible?' If science has 'only theory'--be it ever so refined a theory--then science cannot, in the strictest sense 'contradict' anything! It might 'conflict,' but you put a greater load of meaning into it than the word 'theory' itself can bear. This might prove an interesting direction for conversation, my boy, I'm very pleased you brought it up!

[nebula]

You know Matt, I've found it rather interesting how you've avoided my question. Is that because you don't have an answer for me? A bit baffling, isn't it to say the least. However, don't worry. Every atheist I've asked that question hasn't been able to return an answer of substance to me. And that's basically because once you do some strong background research on the historical facts surrounding JESUS CHRIST, you'll find the evidence weighs VERY STRONGLY in HIS favor...that is, in being WHO HE claimed to be.

I figured you wouldn't be able to respond, so by not doing so my friend, you already given me your answer - you don't know. Thanks anyway Matt!

Actually I got lost in another thread and was busy through-out the day in my life......

I do know, but your patronizing makes me not care...

Thanks anyway for accusing. Boost the ego a bit doesn't it? Good for you....good for you.....

matt

The games sceptics play. . . .

Considering that you had the time to respond very well to other people's posts, and then instead of answering the question went on the attack when confronted on this -

It makes the casual observer believe that indeed you do not have an answer to this.

Thanks for boosting my faith that even historians are left with no alternative but that Jesus rose from the dead!

[nebula]

If science has 'only theory'--be it ever so refined a theory--then science cannot, in the strictest sense 'contradict' anything!

Science is ever-changing.

Case in point, recent findings are suggesting the current model we have for solar system formation may be all wrong.

It's fun to adventure and puzzle, but to rely one's life upon itisl ike building a home on earthquake-prone ground.

[Ovedya]

If science has 'only theory'--be it ever so refined a theory--then science cannot, in the strictest sense 'contradict' anything!

Science is ever-changing.

Case in point, recent findings are suggesting the current model we have for solar system formation may be all wrong.

It's fun to adventure and puzzle, but to rely one's life upon itisl ike building a home on earthquake-prone ground.

What if the Bible is wrong and it's your cornerstone? Science is making gains, you do drive a CONSISTENT car right?

To base someone's life off a 2000 year old book is nothing to brag about to me. You kind of slap everyone and tell them they aren't making any progress in this or that field. Like modern day philosophers should just shut-up and go home.

matt

Actually science - archeology especially - continues to prove the veracity of the Bible.

[Ovedya]

There are a lot of "yes men" out there, aren't there?

On both sides...

So how is your link anymore convincing than answersingenesis, for example?

[angels4u]

I know this much my friend....you're here because you are seeking something (and that's a good thing). You have been in my prayers since we started to dialogue the other day. GOD has something good planned for you Matt, and HE's reaching out to you now. Whether or not you and I continue to converse doesn't change the fact that you are and will continue to be on my prayer list. And the fact is I plan on seeing YOU when I get to Heaven, my friend. Reading some of your posts on other threads I see you have a very good mind. Use it wisely!

see Matt? I'm not the only one whp expect to see you in heaven, I'm still convinced that you are NOT a Atheist, you might tell yourself for the time being that you are.

Don't ask how I how--we see, the Lord has something in mind for you, you might rebel against Him but I know He's trying to get your attention, what does He have to do to get it from you??

Jesus cares for you and I do too, Angels

What if the Bible is wrong and it's your cornerstone? Science is making gains, you do drive a CONSISTENT car right?

Therefore remember that at one time you Gentiles in the flesh, called

[angels4u]

don't see the Bible as an authority to anything. It's filled with common sense, so what.....

I know you do

[Ovedya]

There are a lot of "yes men" out there, aren't there?

On both sides...

So how is your link anymore convincing than answersingenesis, for example?

Ok, let's convolute the issue. I don't go somewhere on Sundays and have my ego stroked, that's the difference. I don't go to boards where I'm in good company, there's another. I go out and spread what I know being a former Christian. I know there are hardheads on both sides, that's honestly one of the least original things I've ever heard.

So what should we do with your post? Take it that we can't ever think outside of ourselves and die that way? I know better.

matt

Which is more limited, accepting the truth of the existence of God and spending one's life in pursuit of the divine, or limiting one's own scope of knowledg and understanding to a world that's going to burn in the end anyway?

I'm a former atheist, by the way, so don't bother trying to tell me how ignorant I am. I spent the better part of 20 years trying to fill myself with knowledge, science, and various other things in the attempt at stroking an ego that could never be satisfied.

Christianity is far from an ego stroke, my friend. In fact, it's brough my pride down to a level that I could never have understood while I was an atheist, and caused me to pursue something that is far greater than myself. That is why I go to church on Sundays, and that is why I have been on Worthy for the past 3 years.

You find something wrong with the pursuit of the divine?